So I bought this bow after my obsession turmoil rz was stolen, paper tuning, sighting in and shooting this bow was a very enjoyable experience. Things change up a bit at longer yardage, I've been shooting a bow since I was about 10 and have never had a problem with distance shooting until this bow. Terrible pin float, not very steady, and not very enjoyable. So I decided to remove the factory grip and shoot bare riser and the difference was immediate tight groups, pin float was gone and it turned into a rock steady bow. Matthews dealers should really allow the consumer to pick what grip they want with this bow. They offer 4 options and customers are already spending almost 1400 on a bare bow they should be able to at least customize the grip. I truly believe this is a money grab move because I don't feel I should have to buy a grip when I am not happy with the factory option and the manufacturer makes three more options(and I have heard all of them are better). Do better Matthews, professional shooters do not like rounded grips, they like a flat repeatable grip. I will buy an aftermarket grip because I will not give a penny for something that should be a factory selectable option especially when bought from an authorized dealer. Bow is an A+, smooth, quiet, and fast, money grab for having no choice but buying a different grip F-. If this bow didn't shoot and feel as good as it does this rating would be much lower.