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If it weren't for the people and Mods on this forum, I'd have given up long ago ... almost did, but stuck around long enough to see most of the really bad implementation and flaws corrected. AT has a much easier, user friendly, no whistles and bells forum, but its the crowd of fanboys, antagonists, nay-sayers, and general troublemakers, often giving 'newbies' incredibly bad advise, so bad I take it as intentional, and a lack of Mod supervision, which keeps my use of AT to a minimum ... mostly just reading and looking for the respected posters, like Nuts&Bolts, Daniel Boone, X-Ring, etc.
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