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As far as speed goes.... your not gonna see 2fps between the two bows. I have shot the creed aswell as the spider 30...im probably gonna get bashed for this but it my own opinion the spider felt better to me....but I havent had the chance to shoot them side by side. Spider was smoother but the Creed had a better backwall. Not really a fan of dual cams but I was surprised with the spider. The only Hoyt i've actually taken a liking to. As far as pushy shop owners go, they will do anything for a buck, just be happy he didnt try to sell you a Diamond or Martin!!:-)
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