z7 will not tune with mathew's QAD

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  • September 30, 2013 at 6:41 pm #596944 Back to Top REPORT

    Matthew Tiblier

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    Any suggestions why my z7 will not paper tune with the new qad rest, but will shoot perfect with a wisker biskit?
    September 30, 2013 at 8:16 pm #596964 Back to Top REPORT
    elc1973
    Elc1973

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    call qad they have great customer service
    September 30, 2013 at 8:53 pm #596974 Back to Top REPORT

    Smokecity

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    Any suggestions why my z7 will not paper tune with the new qad rest, but will shoot perfect with a wisker biskit?

    What kind of tear are you getting on paper ?

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    October 1, 2013 at 9:33 am #597023 Back to Top REPORT
    bow-drawn
    Bow Drawn

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    If you would tell us about your setup , bow, lbs., draw length, measured center shot, and arrow and model. This will help any one on here to better understand your question for tuning the process.

    Basic difference, the Biscuit is in full contact with the arrow during the shot. The QAD style rests are not in full contact with the arrow and requires more fine tuning. The information above can help figure out what it will take to get the QAD tuned.

    October 1, 2013 at 10:29 am #597028 Back to Top REPORT

    Matthew Tiblier

    Age: 29
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    Z7 , 65#, 27″, carbon express maxima hunter 350
    October 1, 2013 at 5:49 pm #597088 Back to Top REPORT
    99fatboy
    99fatboy

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    there are many variables in setting up a qad vs. a whisker bisquit,such as where and how drop cord is attached,timing of rest in draw cycle, launcher arm used, bow spec tuned properly, centershot, and nok height. they are entirely different rests and require different setup methods.
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    October 15, 2013 at 9:20 am #599258 Back to Top REPORT
    nys-buckstalker1
    nys-buckstalker1

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    try a 400 arrow. might be under splined with the 350 with your set up. Also try setting your center shot to 13/16″ and your arrow should level with the berger hole when the rest is in the up position.  On QAD’s if you look on the rear of rest as you hold bow up like going to draw back . You will see 2 little white lines on it. one will be on the rest part that moves and the other on the solid part attached to bow. When the rest is in the raised position( holding arrow up) the line on the moving part will slightly above the other line until you come back to full draw. Then they should be straight across from each other at full draw. This is the timing for the rest. Your cord should be adjusted so this happens, this allows the rest to release at the right time so your arrow doesn’t make contact with the rest.
    Did you try bare shaft tuning your set up ? I find it work better than paper tuning first. Take 2 or 3 un-fletched shafts and shoot them along with 3 fletched arrows with same field-tips.  Adjust your center shot and nocking point on where the bare shafts hit. if they hit low and to the right to say. Move your nocking point down first so both set of arrows are hitting on the same level. Then move on to your arrows hitting right or left of each other. You may have to increase or decrease your draw weight or try different weight tips to get them to group together .
    Did this with my Z7  Extreme with a QAD HDX rest and found out the that it shot better with my 55/75 Gold-Tips cut to 27 inches than my same arrows cut to 26 1/2 with same 100 grain field tips. Paper tuned afterwards to make fine adjustments. I get baseball size 5 arrow groups at 50-60 yds. with it.
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    October 15, 2013 at 6:24 pm #599422 Back to Top REPORT
    99fatboy
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    (1.) a 400 spine arrow is weaker than a 350. (2.) timing marks should align in the last 1-2 in. of draw. (3.) adjusting poundage only really tells you if your arrows are weak,and in extreme cases may affect rest timing if not readjusted for poundage change. (4.) the real test is to shoot a fixed blade broadhead for p.o.i. compared to a field tip.
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