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  • August 24, 2013 at 3:44 pm #591765 Back to Top REPORT
    rsutton
    rsutton

    Joined: 11/27/2008
    Yes!
    August 24, 2013 at 6:12 pm #591782 Back to Top REPORT
    gjarcher
    gjarcher

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    IMHO, if your goal is to practice herd management on a small piece of property, surrounded by other properties that don’t, you are wasting your time.

    Ultimately, it comes down to why you hunt … you want antlers or do you want meat? You want antlers, I’d let that buck go. You want meat, I’d shoot him…or maybe a doe instead. {#emotions_dlg.mathews_peace}

    August 26, 2013 at 9:09 am #592018 Back to Top REPORT
    q2hunter
    q2hunter

    Joined: 6/21/2007
    Location: Virginia

    Idk how it is in other states but in Va and Wv you can shoot one buck in bow one buck in Gun and one buck in muzz and im not a 100% but i think you can buy extra buck tags. Witch is not the best how is it in other states? And also if i am not correct on the tag thing please correct me.

    Virginia is divided into 2 sections, WEST of the blue ridge and East of the blue ridge.  I live West of the blue ridge.  In the Western part, it is 2 antlered deer per year which can be taken in any season you choose.  Both can be with a bow, both can be with a muzzleloader, or both can be with a rifle.  Each county has its own specific laws regarding does and doe days.  I don’t know what part you are in.  If that buck were on my hunting ground, he is 100% shooter.  Hard to tell from one pic, but he’s either 3.5 or 4.5.  I’m leaning toward 4.5.  Bowhunter TV had a good show on two weeks ago talking about the “100 inch Booner”.  They were specifically talking about hunting the best animals your area has to offer, and how many areas in the whitetail range just simply do not carry true B&C bucks.  Some areas, a 100″ deer is the equivalent to a 170″ deer.  Their point was, you’re not going to be a happy hunter if you spend a lifetime, or even a season hunting something that doesn’t exist.  I think Virginia is kinda in between.  I’ve hunted my area all my life, hunted since I was 7 years old, and I’m now 35.  I’ve never killed or seen a Booner, nor do I know of any being killed in my immediate or surrounding hunting area.  My “Booner” status would start at about 135″ for my area, as 135 to maybe 150 and 4.5 to the seldomly occasional 5.5 year old deer is the best it has to offer.  P&Y status would start about 110″.  Myself and the guys I hunt with do make every effort to allow the bucks to get to 3.5, and try to talk to neighbors about allowing them to get to 3.5.  With some, it has helped, with others its hopeless, but who am I to tell someone what to shoot and what not to shoot.  If I were you, I would examine these same things, and decide what your area has to offer and set your goals around that.  If I could harvest a 110+ buck that is 3.5 years old every year, with an occasional “booner” every 4 or 5 years, I will be one satisfied hunter.

    August 26, 2013 at 2:29 pm #592071 Back to Top REPORT
    bow4um
    BOW4UM

    Joined: 2/28/2008

    Idk how it is in other states but in Va and Wv you can shoot one buck in bow one buck in Gun and one buck in muzz and im not a 100% but i think you can buy extra buck tags. Witch is not the best how is it in other states? And also if i am not correct on the tag thing please correct me.

    Virginia is divided into 2 sections, WEST of the blue ridge and East of the blue ridge. I live West of the blue ridge. In the Western part, it is 2 antlered deer per year which can be taken in any season you choose. Both can be with a bow, both can be with a muzzleloader, or both can be with a rifle. Each county has its own specific laws regarding does and doe days. I don’t know what part you are in. If that buck were on my hunting ground, he is 100% shooter. Hard to tell from one pic, but he’s either 3.5 or 4.5. I’m leaning toward 4.5. Bowhunter TV had a good show on two weeks ago talking about the “100 inch Booner”. They were specifically talking about hunting the best animals your area has to offer, and how many areas in the whitetail range just simply do not carry true B&C bucks. Some areas, a 100″ deer is the equivalent to a 170″ deer. Their point was, you’re not going to be a happy hunter if you spend a lifetime, or even a season hunting something that doesn’t exist. I think Virginia is kinda in between. I’ve hunted my area all my life, hunted since I was 7 years old, and I’m now 35. I’ve never killed or seen a Booner, nor do I know of any being killed in my immediate or surroundinghunting area. My “Booner” status would start at about 135″ for my area, as 135 to maybe 150 and 4.5 to the seldomly occasional 5.5 year old deer is the best it has to offer. P&Y status would start about 110″. Myself and the guys I hunt with do make every effort to allow the bucks to get to 3.5, and try to talk to neighbors about allowing them to get to 3.5. With some, it has helped, with others its hopeless, but who am I to tell someone what to shoot and what not to shoot. If I were you, I would examine these same things, and decide what your area has to offer and set your goals around that. If I could harvest a 110+ buck that is 3.5 years old every year,with an occasional “booner” every 4 or 5 years, I will be one satisfied hunter.

    Lots of good stuff here from the guys and as mentioned it’s your hunt do what YOU want and don’t fall into the I’m only going to take mature and stud deer – if you want that then fine but be ready for a lot of tag soup and at 19 with a bow I would be taking the first 3 bucks I could which will get you experience to progress. You would be far happier with rubbing your hands on antlers rather than a memory of a deer you saw because again as mentioned if you can’t REALY manage them just letting them walk does NOT work. More than likely that deer will disperse anyway never to be seen again (see this time and time again). I will just say I have taken a TON of very nice bucks in my VA areas that I worked years to grow because I could let them go BUT now folks are hunting all around me and I definitely am seeing a change for lesser quality and numbers so have reduced my own expectations.

    This quote is spot on. I’m not very articulate and a lazy typer but my main point was capture in Chad’s reply. In our VA area that is definitely a shooter and don’t by into all the hype. In VA that’s a great deer and although its hard to really judge I agree in him being 3.5 or more (huge head, sway back defined brisket, short legs and he looks big in early season). We work very hard and rarely do you see a 250# deer in VA unless you’re me – lol :) . Look deer hunting in IA, KS IL… is far easier than in east states so a buck like that is a gem. Now east of the Blue Mountains its “Earn a buck” which means 3 bucks a year total no matter the season BUT you have to take 2 doe before your 2nd buck… Good Luck!

    Take a look at some of my prospects listed under team 3 in the hunting contest. ALL VA deer and ill be happy to take any one of the lessor 2.5yo deer.

    Good Luck and my vote is YES!

    • This reply was modified 7 months, 3 weeks ago by bow4um BOW4UM.
    My Buck killing skills are sick – too bad there not contagious!!!
    August 27, 2013 at 7:25 am #592177 Back to Top REPORT
    q2hunter
    q2hunter

    Joined: 6/21/2007
    Location: Virginia

    Idk how it is in other states but in Va and Wv you can shoot one buck in bow one buck in Gun and one buck in muzz and im not a 100% but i think you can buy extra buck tags. Witch is not the best how is it in other states? And also if i am not correct on the tag thing please correct me.

    Virginia is divided into 2 sections, WEST of the blue ridge and East of the blue ridge. I live West of the blue ridge. In the Western part, it is 2 antlered deer per year which can be taken in any season you choose. Both can be with a bow, both can be with a muzzleloader, or both can be with a rifle. Each county has its own specific laws regarding does and doe days. I don’t know what part you are in. If that buck were on my hunting ground, he is 100% shooter. Hard to tell from one pic, but he’s either 3.5 or 4.5. I’m leaning toward 4.5. Bowhunter TV had a good show on two weeks ago talking about the “100 inch Booner”. They were specifically talking about hunting the best animals your area has to offer, and how many areas in the whitetail range just simply do not carry true B&C bucks. Some areas, a 100″ deer is the equivalent to a 170″ deer. Their point was, you’re not going to be a happy hunter if you spend a lifetime, or even a season hunting something that doesn’t exist. I think Virginia is kinda in between. I’ve hunted my area all my life, hunted since I was 7 years old, and I’m now 35. I’ve never killed or seen a Booner, nor do I know of any being killed in my immediate or surroundinghunting area. My “Booner” status would start at about 135″ for my area, as 135 to maybe 150 and 4.5 to the seldomly occasional 5.5 year old deer is the best it has to offer. P&Y status would start about 110″. Myself and the guys I hunt with do make every effort to allow the bucks to get to 3.5, and try to talk to neighbors about allowing them to get to 3.5. With some, it has helped, with others its hopeless, but who am I to tell someone what to shoot and what not to shoot. If I were you, I would examine these same things, and decide what your area has to offer and set your goals around that. If I could harvest a 110+ buck that is 3.5 years old every year,with an occasional “booner” every 4 or 5 years, I will be one satisfied hunter.

    Lots of good stuff here from the guys and as mentioned it’s your hunt do what YOU want and don’t fall into the I’m only going to take mature and stud deer – if you want that then fine but be ready for a lot of tag soup and at 19 with a bow I would be taking the first 3 bucks I could which will get you experience to progress. You would be far happier with rubbing your hands on antlers rather than a memory of a deer you saw because again as mentioned if you can’t REALY manage them just letting them walk does NOT work. More than likely that deer will disperse anyway never to be seen again (see this time and time again). I will just say I have taken a TON of very nice bucks in my VA areas that I worked years to grow because I could let them go BUT now folks are hunting all around me and I definitely am seeing a change for lesser quality and numbers so have reduced my own expectations.

    Thisquote is spot on. I’m not very articulate and a lazy typer but my main point was capture in Chad’s reply. In our VA area that is definitely a shooter and don’t by into all the hype. In VA that’s a great deer and although its hard to really judge I agree in him being 3.5 or more (huge head, sway back defined brisket, short legs and he looks big in early season). We work very hard and rarely do you see a 250# deer in VA unless you’re me – lol :) . Look deer hunting in IA, KS IL… is far easier than in east states so a buck like that is a gem. Now east of the Blue Mountains its “Earn a buck” which means 3 bucks a year total no matter the season BUT you have to take 2 doe before your 2nd buck… Good Luck!

    Take a look at some of my prospects listed under team 3 in the hunting contest. ALL VA deer and ill be happy to take any one of the lessor 2.5yo deer.

    Good Luck and my vote is YES!

    • This reply was modified 16 hours, 41 minutes ago by bow4umBOW4UM.

    DANG dude! You have some HIGH END bucks for Virginia this year, which you usually do.  Its certainly a down year on my properties this year. My young bucks took a beating last year from some guys that came in on a boarding property and absolutely shot everything.  I passed through by the old house place that they stayed in for the better part of muzzle loader season and rifle season and found the carcuses of 9 bucks during the late season while grouse hunting.  Checked the jaw bones of all of them on one of them looked to be a 3 year old, the rest 1 and 2 year olds, and the really disheartening thing was that I didn’t find a single doe carcus.  I’ve gotten pics of 2 bucks that I think are 3 year olds, but had a ton of 2 year olds last year, and several 3 year olds. I guess they just took a beating all around. That one is a stud, I’ll agree, he’s right at the 160 mark! Hope you can let the air out of that dude!

    August 27, 2013 at 8:09 am #592184 Back to Top REPORT
    bow4um
    BOW4UM

    Joined: 2/28/2008
    Chad,
    You know VA and there are good areas and not so good. I have a good area BUT it’s changing. We got a new piece pf property that opened beside my best place and these deer are there. Last year Wendell my hunting bud got the deer so I hope its my turn :) . We have 4 friends after these and one of us will get one of them – hope its me.  To bad about your neighbors that hurts. One thing I know is that change is inevitable so strike while you can because when its good for you its also good for others. I had a place for about 10 years to myself and it was awesome and last year I saw 3 different hunters in there. Actually saw one shoot a doe and chase it imedeately :( . Hate it but cant do anything about it other than strike first… This is a point i was trying to make to poster especially at 19. I dont know to many Trophy Hunters at 19 and if so they cant have to great a kill record (obviously there are some exceptions…).  God luck Chad ill be watching your season as well.
    My Buck killing skills are sick – too bad there not contagious!!!
    August 28, 2013 at 10:39 am #592380 Back to Top REPORT
    the-prodigy
    The Prodigy

    Joined: 8/4/2006
    Location: MN

    If he’s bigger than anything I have ever killed I would shoot him. Especially if the neighbors shoot everything in sight. If you routinely get the same bucks coming back year after year I would be more likely to pass.

    Would have to agree here.  Even though we have a good tract of land up here (over 500) our neighbors shoot everything.  So he would be a goner if he walked in front of me!

    -Isaak
    August 28, 2013 at 12:15 pm #592414 Back to Top REPORT

    bowbuilder

    Joined: 11/6/2009
    As a fellow VA hunter…I know your delima. In my area, that would be a top buck. I would shoot. To pass is your choice…but with all the dog running, trespassing, poaching, night hunting in VA…it is getting hard to manage any size property. We have already found one deer poached this season all ready…and they are still in velvet.

    I passed a nice 7 pointer last year several times…probably 1.5  year old, no more than 2.5 year. Just needed to grow in my opinion. Found his head during spring turkey season…single buck shot hole thru the skull, looked like a direct shot from behind (running away shot). Deer obviously wasn’t recovered. I don’t regret letting him go…but you have to expect that sort of thing to happen here in VA.

    By the way, we called the game warden about the poached deer. They asked if we saw who did it. We said No. They said they didn’t care then. Didn’t even want to come have a look.

    Also remember this…If you think it isn’t big enough, and needs to grow some more…if you shoot it, it definately won’t be around next year.

    August 29, 2013 at 8:30 pm #592635 Back to Top REPORT
    dxt2chill13
    Dxt2chill13

    Joined: 3/31/2013
    Location: Virginia
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    It sucks i found 2 deer last year perfect shots. One was a small 5 point 30 yards off the road didnt take anything from it and a spike mayb 130 yard s off the road nothing took the deer never took a step. Its sickning i understand if somone neededs to feed family and they took all of it but here latly its been shoot for fun and drive off.  And the wardens try but isnt no way to stop them but my goodness if you trout fish without license ore take more then the 6 you might as well call and turn yourself in I watched over 25 people get slammed with tickets this year in trout waters haha I got checked 3 times in one day. So mayb this hunting season they will crack down a little more. Hope things get better in your parts man I watched a new buck today come out of the corn nice 9 point to add to the wall. so i had three bucks with over 25 doe come out this evening when I was feeding cows cant wait to get in a tree.
    August 30, 2013 at 12:45 am #592667 Back to Top REPORT
    wratchet323
    wratchet323

    Age: 33
    Joined: 8/10/2013
    Location: la
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    In louisiana we get 3 bucks & 3 does in a season and can take 1 buck & 1 doe per day. But the total limit is 6
    August 30, 2013 at 1:39 am #592668 Back to Top REPORT
    I would put an arrow in him! Great looking buck! {#emotions_dlg.mathews_deer}
    August 30, 2013 at 6:18 am #592672 Back to Top REPORT

    bowbuilder

    Joined: 11/6/2009

    cant wait to get in a tree.

    x2 on this.

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