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  • March 5, 2008 at 5:15 am #518745 Back to Top REPORT
    fishmannyj
    fishmannyj

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    Joe was the best and still the King. Also liked ol’ Doug Flutie not bad for a grocery boy. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady are the now men. Really like Peytons work ethics even he spends a little to much time on commercials lol.
    March 5, 2008 at 7:01 am #518746 Back to Top REPORT
    grimmekr
    grimmekr

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    I think when his time is done, Peyton Manning will be considered the greatest of all time. I think Eli is 10 times more athletic than Peyton, but no QB in history has had the brain that Peyton has, he doesn’t need the strongest arm or quickest legs to run, he’s got the defense figured out before he calls hike and know’s where the balls going.

    But out of the names on the list I’d say Montana. Those of you who said Favre, you’re just being sympathetic for his retirement, I wouldn’t even put him in the top 5. Don’t get me wrong, I like Favre, but all his records are longevity records, he doesn’t have any single season type records. Only record that is amazing is his consecutive starts, which helps him get the other records, which includes most INT’s :^O

    March 5, 2008 at 12:43 pm #518747 Back to Top REPORT
    blood-bath2006
    Blood Bath2006

    Joined: 10/14/2006
    I’m a big Elway fan as a QB. On a personal level he sucked though. He could do some amazing things when he had a ball in his hands :thumbup
    March 5, 2008 at 12:59 pm #518748 Back to Top REPORT
    jeff-k-in-il
    Jeff K in IL

    Age: 26
    Joined: 11/1/2005

    I think when his time is done, Peyton Manning will be considered the greatest of all time. I think Eli is 10 times more athletic than Peyton, but no QB in history has had the brain that Peyton has, he doesn’t need the strongest arm or quickest legs to run, he’s got the defense figured out before he calls hike and know’s where the balls going.

    But out of the names on the list I’d say Montana. Those of you who said Favre, you’re just being sympathetic for his retirement, I wouldn’t even put him in the top 5. Don’t get me wrong, I like Favre, but all his records are longevity records, he doesn’t have any single season type records. Only record that is amazing is his consecutive starts, which helps him get the other records, which includes most INT’s :^O[/quote:3698qhbh]

    You don’t have to set records to be considered good, or the best. Favre was the most durable quarterback for his time, sure he threw some INT’s, but he was not afraid to throw the ball where others would not, it lost him some games, and it won him some games. Montana did not have the best arm, but he sure knew how to look over the playing field and throw accurate passes. Before Favre, the Packers had nothing, he and his teammates took them from a bad team, to a good team, and he has 17yrs of hits to his name. I think the NFL is bit harder than your comment on records shows to be. Longevity is not exactly something you see a lot! :-B

    BTW, do you consider Marino out of the top 5 too, since his records were the ones that were there before Favre’s? What about MVP nominations, Favre has a few of those. I have to face it, Favre brought something to the game that not many others do, and it already shows in Packer Nation.

    March 5, 2008 at 5:14 pm #518749 Back to Top REPORT
    grimmekr
    grimmekr

    Joined: 11/7/2007

    I think when his time is done, Peyton Manning will be considered the greatest of all time. I think Eli is 10 times more athletic than Peyton, but no QB in history has had the brain that Peyton has, he doesn’t need the strongest arm or quickest legs to run, he’s got the defense figured out before he calls hike and know’s where the balls going.

    But out of the names on the list I’d say Montana. Those of you who said Favre, you’re just being sympathetic for his retirement, I wouldn’t even put him in the top 5. Don’t get me wrong, I like Favre, but all his records are longevity records, he doesn’t have any single season type records. Only record that is amazing is his consecutive starts, which helps him get the other records, which includes most INT’s :^O[/quote:3krwbozi]

    You don’t have to set records to be considered good, or the best. Favre was the most durable quarterback for his time, sure he threw some INT’s, but he was not afraid to throw the ball where others would not, it lost him some games, and it won him some games. Montana did not have the best arm, but he sure knew how to look over the playing field and throw accurate passes. Before Favre, the Packers had nothing, he and his teammates took them from a bad team, to a good team, and he has 17yrs of hits to his name. I think the NFL is bit harder than your comment on records shows to be. Longevity is not exactly something you see a lot! :-B

    BTW, do you consider Marino out of the top 5 too, since his records were the ones that were there before Favre’s? What about MVP nominations, Favre has a few of those. I have to face it, Favre brought something to the game that not many others do, and it already shows in Packer Nation.[/quote:3krwbozi]

    actually when I look at the question of who is the best QB of all time, I don’t look at records or championships as much as other people do. That’s why I mentioned yeah he has a bunch of records, but they are a bunch that longevity will get you, peyton will pass them all in fewer years unless he decides to retire early (with the exception of the consecutive starts because anybody can get hurt at anytime, although he’s on his way to break it too as of now). A lot of it has to do with feel and your knowledge of watching different QB’s in different systems, etc, etc. Then I take a certain QB and picture them playing for the same teams that another great QB played for and I decide what the difference would be. For example since you brought up Dan Marino, I’ll look at Marino and the stuff he could do, then I put him on the Green Bay Packers from 1992 till now, then I think what would be different…and in my mind Marino would have brought the Packers (my guess) probably 3 Super Bowls in that span…the Dolphins just did a pretty sucky job putting talent around him which is why I don’t look at records or superbowls as much as others. Just like Manning, you give him an AVERAGE defense throughout his career and he would already have 4, not just the one year that the defense decided to play ungodly well in the second half of the season.

    Side note: my cousin plays for the Colts, I put the ring on, it’s freakin huge!!!

    Anyway, this is just an opinion post, so I don’t disagree with what you say, I was just explaining how I look at it. The way I look at it I can’t even put people like Johnny Unitas in the equation because I wasn’t alive and have only seen a very limited amount of highlights.

    March 5, 2008 at 5:20 pm #518750 Back to Top REPORT

    va mountain hunter

    Joined: 11/30/2004
    Farrrv has ONE SB ring, and he wasn’t even the best player on his own team[/i:5lmym316] that year.

    SB 32- 2 turnovers, Pack loses by a possession

    98- 2 INT’s, pack loses by a possession

    2001- 6 (yeah, seriously, SIX) INT’s, Pack gets beat like a drum

    2002- 3 TO’s, Pack gets blown out

    2003- Favre throws INT in overtime, Pack loses

    2004- Favre throws 4 INT’s on pure muscle memory alone, Pack goes down in flames… again

    2008- Favre sees a wide-open cornerback, can’t resist the urge to throw him a strike to lose the game (if only there were a pattern here)

    Best of all-time? Shouldn’t even be mentioned in the conversation.

    March 5, 2008 at 5:28 pm #518751 Back to Top REPORT
    indiana-xt
    Indiana-xt

    Joined: 7/5/2006
    Uncle Ricco has the best arm around.
    Just ask Napolian.
    March 5, 2008 at 5:29 pm #518752 Back to Top REPORT
    grimmekr
    grimmekr

    Joined: 11/7/2007

    Farrrv has ONE SB ring, and he wasn’t even the best player on his own team that year.

    SB 32- 2 turnovers, Pack loses by a possession

    98- 2 INT’s, pack loses by a possession

    2001- 6 (yeah, seriously, SIX) INT’s, Pack gets beat like a drum

    2002- 3 TO’s, Pack gets blown out

    2003- Favre throws INT in overtime, Pack loses

    2004- Favre throws 4 INT’s on pure muscle memory alone, Pack goes down in flames… again

    2008- Favre sees a wide-open cornerback, can’t resist the urge to throw him a strike to lose the game (if only there were a pattern here)

    Best of all-time? Shouldn’t even be mentioned in the conversation.[/quote:2d8288q0]

    Thank You =D/>” title=”Applause” />  great for the game and great for fans(especially for Packer fans), but not the great QB of all time <!-- s:!: --><img src=

    March 6, 2008 at 3:02 am #518753 Back to Top REPORT
    ktmracer
    KTMRacer

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    Gee, thats all interesting Favre Facts. Lets see, he has started since 1992. Wanna guess which Pro team has the most wins in that same time period? :whistle

    Also check your facts on Marino. Im not quoting wikipedia or anything but Im pretty sure that for most of his career, especially early on, the Dolphins set a record of going like 9 strait years giving up the fewest sacks in the NFL.

    For the record, I voted with Favre. Im pretty sure Montanna was the best, but for some reason I just seem to relate to Favre better. Seems like one of the guys you hang around with and game for almost anything. My buck-fiddy.

    March 6, 2008 at 3:04 am #518754 Back to Top REPORT
    ktmracer
    KTMRacer

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    Farrrv has ONE SB ring, and he wasn’t even the best player on his own team that year.

    SB 32- 2 turnovers, Pack loses by a possession

    98- 2 INT’s, pack loses by a possession

    2001- 6 (yeah, seriously, SIX) INT’s, Pack gets beat like a drum

    2002- 3 TO’s, Pack gets blown out

    2003- Favre throws INT in overtime, Pack loses

    2004- Favre throws 4 INT’s on pure muscle memory alone, Pack goes down in flames… again

    2008- Favre sees a wide-open cornerback, can’t resist the urge to throw him a strike to lose the game (if only there were a pattern here)

    Best of all-time? Shouldn’t even be mentioned in the conversation.[/quote:19z3s8rj]

    But he owns all of or most of Marino’s records and exactly how many Superbowl rings does Danny have? I guess we need to take him off the list too? :?:

    March 6, 2008 at 3:05 am #518755 Back to Top REPORT
    jeff-k-in-il
    Jeff K in IL

    Age: 26
    Joined: 11/1/2005

    Farrrv has ONE SB ring, and he wasn’t even the best player on his own team that year.

    SB 32- 2 turnovers, Pack loses by a possession

    98- 2 INT’s, pack loses by a possession

    2001- 6 (yeah, seriously, SIX) INT’s, Pack gets beat like a drum

    2002- 3 TO’s, Pack gets blown out

    2003- Favre throws INT in overtime, Pack loses

    2004- Favre throws 4 INT’s on pure muscle memory alone, Pack goes down in flames… again

    2008- Favre sees a wide-open cornerback, can’t resist the urge to throw him a strike to lose the game (if only there were a pattern here)

    Best of all-time? Shouldn’t even be mentioned in the conversation.[/quote:2ou4nsdb]

    Thank You =D/>” title=”Applause” />  great for the game and great for fans(especially for Packer fans), but not the great QB of all time <!-- s:!: --><img src=[/quote:2ou4nsdb]

    I did forget to mention Peyton’s 6 INT game… :-B

    I never said the greatest, but you said he would not even be in the top 5.

    March 6, 2008 at 6:05 am #518756 Back to Top REPORT
    grimmekr
    grimmekr

    Joined: 11/7/2007
    I just noticed you put Roger Starbuck :^O
    March 6, 2008 at 6:31 am #518757 Back to Top REPORT
    bja123
    bja123

    Joined: 11/5/2007
    Montana, nobody quite seen the field like him. I don’t consider Aikman even close.. [=}=]

    dude are you even old enough to have seen montana play :^O :^O :^O

    March 6, 2008 at 6:34 am #518758 Back to Top REPORT
    bja123
    bja123

    Joined: 11/5/2007
    right now its montana in 5 years its brady
    March 6, 2008 at 3:17 pm #518759 Back to Top REPORT

    va mountain hunter

    Joined: 11/30/2004
    Gee, thats all interesting Favre Facts. Lets see, he has started since 1992. Wanna guess which Pro team has the most wins in that same time period? :whistle

    Congrats to him on boarding the bus safely to go play the Lions more often than any other team during that time period. Remarkable accomplishment there.

    But he owns all of or most of Marino’s records and exactly how many Superbowl rings does Danny have? I guess we need to take him off the list too? :?:

    Yes, absolutely. The only ring he has is one his wife bought for him at the mall. The absolute bottom baseline for GOAT is two rings. Bare minimum.

    For the record, I voted with Favre. Im pretty sure Montanna was the best, but for some reason I just seem to relate to Favre better. Seems like one of the guys you hang around with and game for almost anything. My buck-fiddy.

    People would like to have a cheeseburger with him so they ignore the facts. I get that, I really do. If the poll were something to the effect of which NFL QB I’d like to go hunting with he’d win in a landslide. But that’s an extraordinarily bad and ridiculous way to judge an athlete.

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