I just ordered a Creed XS in 26.5/60#..im afraid of shooting some mechanicals because i dont know if ill have enough KE..im thinking about the new Rages or Grim Reapers..what do yall use
Joined: 7/12/2004If you’re going with a mechanical I’d pick a smaller cut out of your setup like a Rocket Steelhead 100. Thats a solid steel ferrule and the shorter blades are indestructible and open on impact for a full sized entrance, field point flight, probably out penetrates anything out there . That said a Slick Trick 85 grain will fly just as accurate and penetrates like a hot knife through butter .ive heard alot of good things about the steelhead100. I seen the slick trick nukes and there basically a schwaker but with a solid ferrule and they dontt take alot of KE to open up im assuming since they have a smaller cutting diameter
Joined: 2/11/2014I use grim reapers 1 1/2″ cut mechanical and it does amazing. You should EASILY have enough KE for it. I use it on my 65# heli-m 28″ and my 47# 28″ dart on sl50….two dead deer attest to its deeds
Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using TapatalkRage makes a 40KE 1.5″ cut, 2-blade version, if you like Rage products. If you only hunt deer that should be OK for your setup out to about 40 yds, and using a heavier arrow (about 6.~6.5 gr/lb) will penetrate better. You’d be shooting about 250 fps.
If you intend to hunt Large Game like Elk, then a cut on contact, 2-blade like the SteelForce Phathead or a smaller cut, solid steel, 3-blade like the TT Terminal-T should work OK and either one has enough structural integrity for large boned, thick hide game. FWIW, I shoot a German Kinetic 210-gr 1-1/8″ cut, 2-blade broadhead with an additional 35 grains of insert and weights for a 20% FOC, 618-gr arrow out of a 60#/28″ recurve that generates 35 KE and it will completely pass through an Elk out to about 25 yds. With low-KE setups, high FOC and heavy arrows with coc broadheads is the way to go.
You might also check out the small diameter shafts, like the Easton Axis/FMJ/AC Injection or the Beaman MFX or the Victory VAP/Harvest Time Vengence lines. The super skinny shafts are very durable, good gpi for better FOC, for enhanced penetration potential, so work very well with low-KE setups.
I would also recommend against light weight, fast shafts using light-weight broadheads, especially with larger cut broadheads, because they do not penetrate well and the broadheads often sacrifice structural integrity for weight reduction. Use a heavier, slower shaft with at least 12% FOC and your setup shouldn’t fail you. Just my
… hope this helps.
Location: OhioGrim Reaper Mechanicals should work just fine for you. Excellent penetration. They also have a new “all steel” lineup this year so durability shouldn’t be an issue.All We Do Is SELFILMEDThank yall..I havent seen the new steel Grim Reapers but i like the new rage hypodermics…I also checked out the DRT fixed blade from Dirt Nap Gear and they look pretty good..but i guess the saying is if it aint broke done fix it so i might just stick with the Grim Reapers
Thank yall..I havent seen the new steel Grim Reapers but i like the new rage hypodermics…I also checked out the DRT fixed blade from Dirt Nap Gear and they look pretty good..but i guess the saying is if it aint broke done fix it so i might just stick with the Grim Reapers
Here is a video covering the new all steel Grim Reaper line…let me know what you thinkAll We Do Is SELFILMEDIn the little testing I’ve done with mech heads, the Grime Reaper were far stronger than the Rage. I’d stay away from the Hypodermic points or modify them; the needle-point broadheads over the years have a reputation of tip failure/bending on bone impact … if you use’em, plan on staying away from the shoulder and spine.
Those all-steel Grime Reapers look really good, and a real upgrade over the Grime Reapers I tested a couple of years ago. I think the days of the aluminum ferrules and thin blades is long gone because of the High-KE bows on the market.
Location: OregonHere in Oregon I hunt Bear, deer, cougar and elk.
My family of hunting buddies all use Easton Axis or Epic arrows tipped with the NAP Thunder head….
For our hunting team this broadhead has never failed and put a lot of meat in the freezers.
This broadhead flies great out of some very different setups and bows in our hunting group…..
NAP would have to stop making this broadhead for me to change and shoot something else.
Good luck….let us know what you decide on and how it goes….The history of the bow and arrow is the history of mankind............Fred BearI shoot a Z7Extreme with Gold Tips using Slick Trick Magnums or 3 Blade Rage heads. Last deer season I took 5 deer, mostly with the Rage heads. All passed through and stuck in the dirt on the other side except a spine hit with the Tricks. The only damaged head was that Slick Trick. As others have mentioned by others… kep your blades sharp, hit them in the right spot, and avoid the lightest arrow/tip combos and you’ll be fine.Jerry
Joined: 2/20/2014I don’t see Zwickey’s mentioned much in any forum when it comes to broadheads. They are cheap and extremely durable (the upside) and take quite a bit of work to get them razor sharp (the downside). I sharpened and then shot one repeatedly through 1/4″ plywood backed by cardboard as an informal test and they were almost as sharp as when I started (I was using a 50# recurve at 35′). However, i am not particularly experienced at the whole archery thing, so any comments would be appreciated.i think im going to try muzzy trocars because ive seen what they can do and how good they penetrate first hand…but i will buy a few different brands and kinds so i can experiment
Joined: 2/4/2007I have a short draw length like yours . I use the slick trick 100 gr mag and get pass thru on deer . works good and they don’t go far .
Joined: 9/6/2007Tru-Fire Switchblade… good video on youtube showing how good they penetrate from a 50lb bow.
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