What is the percentage of deer you arrow, and loose?

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  • April 7, 2011 at 6:49 pm #532855 Back to Top REPORT
    z7junkie
    Z7Junkie

    Joined: 10/26/2010

    Never lost a deer that I have hit……

    Soooo…. 0% for me…. With a bow…[/quote:2bm27zup]

    #-o Thats cause you miss em all :whistle :whistle

    :^O :hugs

    neil[/quote:2bm27zup]

    :p :p[/quote:2bm27zup] :smt32 :smt42

    April 8, 2011 at 3:59 am #532856 Back to Top REPORT

    Whitetail Addict

    Joined: 10/8/2008
    Not to refute your cause Jay, which I believe is a good one, but from a statistical standpoint your results could be biased.
    I don’t think we are a true sample of the bowhunting population, we are probably more “extreme” than most. We have a deep interest in the sport and the animals we pursue, thus we practice more to become more proficient.
    April 8, 2011 at 6:36 am #532857 Back to Top REPORT

    Whitetail Addict

    Joined: 10/8/2008
    I forgot to add…

    0 here…knock-on-wood.

    I also don’t believe in the spikes as cull bucks theory…I’ve seen juveniles with small spikes.

    There, I think I answered all questions.

    April 8, 2011 at 7:12 am #532858 Back to Top REPORT
    bowhunter843
    bowhunter843

    Joined: 8/12/2007
    What does “What qualifies as a cull buck?” have to do with the topic? #-o

    The mans got the right to cull anything he wants and Im sorry to tell you but I would think that if he is culling for QDM or antler size odds are he knows how to judge a yearling as compared to a 2 year or older buck. ](*,)

    April 8, 2011 at 12:54 pm #532859 Back to Top REPORT
    teamdouglascounty
    teamdouglascounty

    Joined: 2/19/2010

    What does “What qualifies as a cull buck?” have to do with the topic? #-o

    The mans got the right to cull anything he wants and Im sorry to tell you but I would think that if he is culling for QDM or antler size odds are he knows how to judge a yearling as compared to a 2 year or older buck. ](*,)[/quote:hkvi7l9c]

    Was this the 1st time on here someone has strayed from the main topic? #-o NO

    It’s a simple question dude, just wondering what his reasoning is. I’m not backing him into the corner. Just want his point of view ](*,) No need to jump to defend him, Jake. I would think that if he is culling for QDM or antler size, odds are he knows that a spike is not a 2.5 year old/older buck.

    April 8, 2011 at 2:07 pm #532860 Back to Top REPORT
    bow4um
    BOW4UM

    Joined: 2/28/2008
    Location: VA
    Im probably 15%. In the early days I recall hitting 6 bucks before I got one :cry: Now doing much much better BUT this year I hit one with a Rage and a week later hit him again with a Spit that killed him – so I guess that doesn’t count. Funny it seems to be the good ones that I loose :cry: BUT just to clarify I DO usually kill a lot of bucks so that should count for something and I believe everyone will loose some if they shoot multiple bucks every year. I usually take 4-5 bucks a year but this year only took 2 mainly due to helping others and shutting down my hunting season early because of personal reasons.
    My Buck killing skills are sick – too bad there not contagious!!!
    April 8, 2011 at 3:47 pm #532861 Back to Top REPORT
    letem-sling75-2
    Let'em sling75

    Joined: 1/28/2010
    Jay I miss clicked take one away from the 20-30 range it should be 10-20 ive killed 8 deer and shot at 10 total both were from this past season :( so mines 20 percent….but I hope to make that better as the years go on…

    On the spike topic I always give them a year if the second year there still a spike they gots to go….I had one from thte 2009 season and he was a spike again last year so if I see him again this year he’s a gonner he was cool to watch he was really grunting load out in the field chasing does….Hopefully he dont make a bunch of spike babies ](*,)

    April 8, 2011 at 4:15 pm #532862 Back to Top REPORT

    Whitetail Addict

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    What does “What qualifies as a cull buck?” have to do with the topic? #-o

    The mans got the right to cull anything he wants and Im sorry to tell you but I would think that if he is culling for QDM or antler size odds are he knows how to judge a yearling as compared to a 2 year or older buck. ](*,)[/quote:3ir9ay4c]

    The same way that Rage has something to do with this thread.

    April 8, 2011 at 7:06 pm #532863 Back to Top REPORT
    bowhunter843
    bowhunter843

    Joined: 8/12/2007

    What does “What qualifies as a cull buck?” have to do with the topic? #-o

    The mans got the right to cull anything he wants and Im sorry to tell you but I would think that if he is culling for QDM or antler size odds are he knows how to judge a yearling as compared to a 2 year or older buck. ](*,)[/quote:kmokim9d]

    The same way that Rage has something to do with this thread.[/quote:kmokim9d]You are incorrect he asked what percentage and I told him my answer and why. I wasn’t attempting to dispute methods of quality management. :whistle

    April 8, 2011 at 7:20 pm #532864 Back to Top REPORT

    Whitetail Addict

    Joined: 10/8/2008

    What does “What qualifies as a cull buck?” have to do with the topic? #-o

    The mans got the right to cull anything he wants and Im sorry to tell you but I would think that if he is culling for QDM or antler size odds are he knows how to judge a yearling as compared to a 2 year or older buck. ](*,)[/quote:1zmsv4iq]

    The same way that Rage has something to do with this thread.[/quote:1zmsv4iq]You are incorrect he asked what percentage and I told him my answer and why. I wasn’t attempting to dispute methods of quality management. :whistle[/quote:1zmsv4iq]

    I am perfectly correct.

    Off topic is off topic…whether by an inch or a mile.

    If you want to be the topic police, this question required a numerical percentage of the deer you arrowed and lost…nothing more.

    April 8, 2011 at 10:50 pm #532865 Back to Top REPORT
    bowhunter843
    bowhunter843

    Joined: 8/12/2007
    There is a big difference between assessing why I missed and bullying a guy for his management tactics. No matter how you slice it I was still within the topic and wasnt trying to argue with that. Of course you naturally want to justify your error and it’s ok were moving forward now.
    April 9, 2011 at 12:15 am #532866 Back to Top REPORT

    hp_garner70

    Joined: 3/17/2011
    My kill ratio has been perfect but only with my vehicles :mad:with very little tracking!
    April 9, 2011 at 12:19 am #532867 Back to Top REPORT

    Whitetail Addict

    Joined: 10/8/2008
    There is a big difference between assessing why I missed and bullying a guy for his management tactics. No matter how you slice it I was still within the topic and wasnt trying to argue with that. Of course you naturally want to justify your error and it’s ok were moving forward now.

    I don’t see a vast difference, if you are going to question someone for going off topic. Like I said, whether by an inch or a mile, off topic is off topic. You were not asked to analyze why you lost your deer, just a numerical percentage of how many deer you lost to how many you have recovered.

    I’m not justifying an error, I have no need to, because I did not make one. I caught you being hypocritical. Remember, you were the one that had a problem with teamdouglascounty and I.

    I see a thread as a conversation, they flow. You apparently see it different.

    Now WE’RE moving forward.

    Jay, I apologize for cluttering up your thread.

    April 9, 2011 at 4:02 pm #532868 Back to Top REPORT
    bookemdano
    Bookemdano

    Age: 43
    Joined: 1/15/2011
    Location: Manitoba
    1/12, would have found her in the afternoon after shooting her about 9am. Unfortunately, our family had a tragedy that afternoon and I did not go back to the woods. Found her days later after the funeral, coyotes had eaten her. Shot was a poor effort on my part, and that is why I couldn’t recover her that morning. Still felt bad because her death was likely slow. As far as family, of course it must come first.
    April 10, 2011 at 4:46 am #532869 Back to Top REPORT
    legal-eagle
    Legal Eagle

    Age: 63
    Joined: 6/7/2007
    Location: CO
    Wow. I was off the thread for a little bit, and it really took off.

    Ok, let me discuss my theory on culling. I make it a practice to shoot two types of deer on the place. 1. Cull bucks, and 2. Does. The great bucks we save for the guests. We take does to try to get the ratios down, so that the bucks have to work harder for the does (and spend more time chasing in daylight to find them). Besides, we need lots of game meat to make meals for the hunters who grace us with their company.

    Now, that being said, I am aware that some spikes can be young bucks that were born late, and just didn’t have the time to develop a fork before growth ended. But you can tell a first-year buck pretty easily. They still look like does in the body.

    I judge their age by body size, and conformation. together with some other factors. I won’t shoot a first-year spike. I will shoot a two-year old (or older) spike. The spike I shot was between two and three years old. He was running with a bunch of older bucks (also an indication he is older).

    At the time I shot him, he was with an 18-point, two big 8-points (three-year olds), and a young 6-point which was a year and a half old. The spike was at least two years old. I believe if a buck hasn’t forked by then, they may never make the kind of rack we are looking for. We expect to see the first real rack (at a year and a half) be a 6 or better, and then the next year they should be an 8 or a 10.

    His spikes were eight inches long and as thick as an index finger at the base. That told me a lot as well. I got the chance to observe him for better than ten minutes, while all those nicer bucks were milling around the feeder. I knew if he ever gave me a decent shot, I’d take it.

    He was chasing around with the other bucks play-fighting, and in doing so pranced out into a little opening between the branches of the tree I was sitting in, and stopped at a pre-ranged 25 yards, broadside. Within two seconds the arrow was on its way.

    If you look at the picture of me in the avatar, you will see the latest cull buck I took. I really wanted to have a guest hunter take him, but nobody had even seen this one, and with only a few days left in the season, there was little chance they would. I went back and forth in my mind on taking him, but this older buck only was a typical 8, before he broke off some points in fights, and he was already better than 6 years old by my estimation. So, I let the arrow fly, and put him in the meat locker. But I am sure he bred some does, so the task is not yet finished.

    It is really nice that the culls are big 8-points now. We very rarely see spikes any more. We are headed in the right direction!

    Oh, and I don’t mind a discussion of one thing morphing into the discussion of another thing. I am not offended when that happens. It’s all fine with me.

    And I do know that this is not a really scientific poll. But it does at least give us some feeling for how this particular bow hunting community is doing on this one particular aspect of hunting.

    It is nice to maybe use the poll results to generate some talking points to refute the other statistics, which I believe may lack any significant foundation at all.

    Thanks for the great discussion. And thanks for all your great input!

    Jay

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