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  • May 29, 2014 at 9:12 am #630392 Back to Top REPORT
    q2hunter
    q2hunter

    Joined: 6/21/2007
    I check in from time to time, but been a while since I have posted, just not much interest going on seems.  Anyway, used to be several of us on here from Virginia, anyone still hanging around? Lets hear from you if you are. At least we can keep up with whats going on around our home state.

    I’ve been really busy on my farm doing some reforestation plantings where I cut some timber last year.  Have planted 240 mast producing seedlings in strategic locations, have also planted 20 soft mast (apple, pear, crabapple) trees in strategic locations.  Done some clearing with a dozer to make some open spaces on the practically all wooded farm, and just trying to improve the habitat in general.  80 of the trees I planted are from the Mossy Oak Native Nursery, which are supposed to be mast producing in 7-8 years…..we will see.  I am also working with the forestry department to implement a 25 acre pine planting on a rough, steep section of the cut over.  Pine plantings are great cover for whitetails in the first 8-10 years, and great for turkey roosting as they mature.  And, although the pine timber market may never be what it once was in the 70’s and 80’s, it is fast growing and there will always be a large demand for pine.  I have two children whom I want to leave upcoming, renewable value to also.  Anyway, I love working my Virginia farm land, and love my home area in the Blue Ridge Mountains.  I would love to hear from any fellow Virginians!

    May 29, 2014 at 9:11 pm #630468 Back to Top REPORT
    playr158
    playr158

    Age: 29
    Joined: 2/11/2014
    Wow sounds like you live a great rural life in our beautiful mountain range. I live in NoVa and hunt back yards in the three counties. Nice to see other Virginians arouns

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    June 3, 2014 at 6:07 am #630689 Back to Top REPORT

    scheipmj

    Age: 34
    Joined: 6/3/2014
    Location: virginia
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    I’m new here and pretty new to hunting (started 2 years ago). From NOVA as well, just traded in a Mission Endeavor that got me started on a Chill X yesterday!

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    June 5, 2014 at 9:21 am #630866 Back to Top REPORT
    mdhunter
    MDHUNTER

    Joined: 8/31/2009
    I’m in King George and have a few small places to hunt. I got my wife into bow hunting three years ago and my son in a few years as he gets older. I hope to own the land you have q2hunter one day.
    June 18, 2014 at 7:15 am #631668 Back to Top REPORT
    q2hunter
    q2hunter

    Joined: 6/21/2007
    Made a round through my property yesterday evening to check on the seedlings.  They have been in the ground 4 1/2 weeks and we have gotten a grand spanking total of 1/4″ of rain.  Man its getting dry.  I watered each tree with 16oz of water when I planted them and then again after 2 weeks.  Looks like I am going to have to do it again this Friday if we don’t get any in the next day or two.  Just 25% chance of t-storms this week.  16 miles away, where I work, we have gotten over an inch and half of rain in the last two weeks.  Hit and miss, and my property just hasn’t been under one.  They seem to be doing ok though.  I counted 8 that looks like I have lost, that’s not a bad percentage at all considering a good planting will yield an 80% survival rate through the first year.

    I have also seen two different broods of ruffed grouse in the last week, both looked to have 5 or 6 chicks.  Grouse have been on a down cycle the last 5 years or so, so I hope this is a sign of an up swing.  The deer are really using the 40 acre clear cut, new growth is coming on strong and the deer are loving the tender shoots and things like poke berry, and briar shoots.  The logging roads are littered with tracks.  Found some big bear sign also, big scat piles and some 5-6 inch wide tracks.  Im not a bear hunter, but would love the opportunity to take one with my bow.

    I’ve been so busy with the land management this spring that I have neglected my mineral sites and haven’t put my cams out yet. Usually do that around the first of June.  I’ve got to get on that so I can see whats around.

    Hope my fellow VA brothers are all doing well!  Check in and let us know what you have going on in your hunting world.

    June 21, 2014 at 7:16 am #631865 Back to Top REPORT
    jbhoge
    jbhoge

    Age: 52
    Joined: 11/8/2008
    Location: Pa
    imageYou’re right Q2, not much going on lately.  I’m not VA guy, but can relate to your experiences with your property.  and I have seen some of the bucks you have killed – very nice!  sounds like you got a nice property and are working at making it better!  that’s cool.  how many acres do you have?

    after about 20 years of looking, my wife and I finally bought 35 acres last fall.  We had quite a few requirements, but finally found a property to pull the trigger on.  Has about 15 acres of woods and 20 fields.  one of the best things about it is that its 5 minutes from home!  Like you I planted 100 red oak seedlings this spring.   There wasn’t an oak in the woods so i’m trying to fix that!  I tried to plant strategically also so they had a little protection from the deer otherwise, they have no chance at all.  Just took a walk last weekend to check on them – they have started to grow but they sure look tiny in the woods!

    The PA Game Commission has a seedling sale each year.  prices are reasonable and they have packages to include different species depending on what you are looking for -http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=514&objID=636779&mode=2  the red oak I got were 6-8″.  would like them a little bigger to get going faster but the price was right.

    June 23, 2014 at 4:01 pm #632010 Back to Top REPORT
    q2hunter
    q2hunter

    Joined: 6/21/2007

    imageYou’re right Q2, not much going on lately. I’m not VA guy, but can relate to your experiences with your property. and I have seen some of the bucks you have killed – very nice! sounds like you got a nice property and are working at making it better! that’s cool. how many acres do you have? 

    after about 20 years of looking, my wife and I finally bought 35 acres last fall. We had quite a few requirements, but finally found a property to pull the trigger on. Has about 15 acres of woods and 20 fields. one of the best things about it is that its 5 minutes from home! Like you I planted 100 red oak seedlings this spring. There wasn’t an oak in the woods so i’m trying to fix that! I tried to plant strategically alsoso they had a little protection from the deer otherwise, they have no chance at all. Just took a walk last weekend to check on them – they have started to grow but they sure look tiny in the woods!

    The PA Game Commission has a seedling sale each year. prices are reasonable and they have packages to include different species depending on what you are looking for -http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=514&objID=636779&mode=2 the red oak I got were 6-8″. would like them a little bigger to get going faster but the price was right.

    That’s awesome jb, big congrats on the property! Its a big decision but one you will not regret.  I have 77 myself, which joins my fathers 50 on the west side, and one 30 acre tract lays between me and my uncles 125 acre cattle farm on the east side.  The 30 acres is for sale right now and OH HOW I WISH!!! That would join us all up and give us nearly 300 acre contiguous acres.  I just cant swing it…..stretched as thin as I can go on the 77 acres right now.  Maybe in another 5 years or so if its still up or comes around again I can refinance and add it.

    Your trees? Did you tube them?  The tubes are your biggest expense with trees.  I have less than $150 bucks in the 250 seedlings I planted…..but the tubes were $3.19 each.  If yours are not tubed, I’d HIGHLY recommend it.  You will have less than 20% survival to maturity if you do not do so.  The tubes are reusable also, you can leave them on there 8 years or so to get a good start and then get more trees and use the tubes again.

    Your 15 acres of woods? Is it mature? If its mature, you could be staring a little whitetail paradise in the face if you consider timbering.  We purchased our 77 acres in two tracts, 34 and 43 acres.  The latest, the 43, was mature timber, no oaks, all poplar and pine, and I cut it immediately.  That is where I have cleaned off areas and done the plantings, and going to let the remainder grow into the nastiest thicket that it will.  If its mature and DECENT timber, you could be looking at a minimum of $1,000 per acre that you pocket off of cutting the timber.  If its really good and yields good, it could be double that. You could also select cut it, or cut 1/2 now and half in another 8 years or so.  Having forests in several different stages of growth and maturity, in my humble opinion, is THE NUMBER 1 best land management scenario for holding whitetails year around.  You could make that decision based on what your neighbors property looks like also.  If they have cut overs, you are the only mature woods, you may not want to do that.  If everything is mature around you, and you would have the only cut over close by…..WOW…..that’s a great scenario!  If you have mature timber, but don’t want to cut it, at least think about thinning as to promote understory growth.  That will suffice for browse and cover for bedding if you can stimulate some thick understory.  You can also designate some of your open ground to put in warm season grasses, the CRP type stuff, switch grass and the like that grows tall and nasty.  They deer will bed in that also.

    Your open ground? Going to put in any food plots?  Some annual food plots in strategic locations around the edge of the woods, especially any corners you have, are great to hunt over.  Maybe several acres of the field you could lease out to a farmer for alfalfa, if you don’t farm yourself.  And by all means, get you an orchard planted.  Mix in a good variety of apples, pears, crab apples, and persimmons so you have something dropping at all times of the fall.  Plant those close to the edge of the woods also….if you are a bow hunter, so you can set up on them.  I would even suggest some “early” apples.  The old timers around here call them June Apples, even though around here they do not drop until July/August????  But anyway, that would adapt the deer to using the orchard earlier and as others begin to drop they will continue to come to the orchard.

    I am sorry for the long post….but I LOVE this stuff!  I could care less if I kill a deer or not, but I love farming for them.  And don’t let ANYONE tell you that you don’t have enough property, you can make ANY sized property more attractive to the deer. You may not have enough to hold them on your property at all times, but if you have everything they want, they will spend a lot more time there!  No matter how small, make sure you have the big 3. Food, water, and cover.

    Maybe we should start a “land management” thread for this stuff!

    June 26, 2014 at 5:56 am #632181 Back to Top REPORT
    jbhoge
    jbhoge

    Age: 52
    Joined: 11/8/2008
    Location: Pa
    After 40 years of hunting on someone else’s property it is great to be on my own!  No regrets for certain.  And there is good mix of habitat on the neighbors. In fact Mr Crop Farmer just planted 30 acres of soybeans next to me. Can’t wait to see the traffic to that fields.

    i didn’t tube. Know I should and I should do what I can swing rather than none. Planted them in a rush as a memorial to my dad who passed last winter at 92.  He was passionate about trees timber and land and never knew about this property.  I owe it to him because a little insurance policy gave me the down money.  So I sure wanthat’s many as I can to survive.

    The woods are mature.  Not much undergrowth and without mast not much feed for deer.  Lots of pine which the liked this winter. I will have some cut to get rid of the undesirable and promote regrowth.  Small clear cut areas is what I’m thinking.  1/2 an acre here and there.  Works good up here. Mthere are a bunch of wild apple trees. Not sure where came from but last year just loaded. Ground covered under the trees and w so many trees deer didn’t pattern well.

    my son tried a plot this spring- clover mix. Got 3″ tall and got mowed down.  Any recommendations there?  How do you keep them out til you want them in it?  I would like to try again at the back end of the fields. What annuals work for you?

    sounds like you have a piece of paradise there. I know what you mean about the 30 acres. a neighbor has 10 he wants to sell here too. Adjoins mine  but he wants more tha I can pay. Have you talked to you neighbor. Would he consider a land contractPay maybe pay him $x / mo for 5 years and then buy it?  would keep an undesirable from getting it.

    I could keep going myself but damn I have to go to work.

    June 26, 2014 at 3:54 pm #632240 Back to Top REPORT
    q2hunter
    q2hunter

    Joined: 6/21/2007
    jb, sounds like you just need to plant more of the clover mix.  If they like it, and mow it, you just didn’t plant big enough of an area.

    Annuals, I plant some kind of bulbs…..turnips mostly, but called different things by different seed companies.  Biologic has the winter bulbs and sugar beets, other companies refer to them as brassica, its all pretty much the same and I’ve gotten the same result out of all the seed companies I’ve tried.  The deer don’t bother it much until it frosts on it.  I plant in early to mid august, and out first frost is typically end of sept or first of oct.  First Saturday in Oct is opening day so that works out great for hunting over the plots.  Once it frosts a time or two, and they start hitting it, they hit it hard eating the tops first, then returning for the bulbs later when other food supplies run out.  I love late November and December over the remaining bulbs.  I also mix in a heavy mixture of clover, the clover comes up first thing in the spring and I have a clover plot for spring and summer and only have to plant once.  If the clover stand is excellent, a lot of times I will leave it for a year.  Kinda puts me in a rotation on the plots and what I put in them.  I only do the annuals in a plot every other year if the clover does well, but I have enough small plots scattered about that I ALWAYS have SOME annual bulbs to hunt over.

    The main thing with plots, is NOT the seed company, its the ground you put it in.  I don’t do soil tests anymore, I didn’t the first year or so WAY back when I first got into food plots, but now I just see no need.  I put down 600lbs of lime and 300lbs of 10-10-10 per acre every year and have had great success.  Of course when I first started, the ground was very poor.  The first year the soil tests called for 2,000lbs of lime per acre to get the ph right.  But after I got it right, its not near as much to maintain if you do it every year.

    Best of luck with the property, I know you will enjoy it, and keep us posted.  I love reading and talking this stuff!

    July 2, 2014 at 10:19 pm #632759 Back to Top REPORT
    bow4um
    BOW4UM

    Joined: 2/28/2008
    Location: VA
    I just plant corn piles and cain! Lol. Long time since I have been on here. Glad to read your post Q2. I tried to respond to your e-mail but kept failing. Im working with 20 guys hunting 2 new un hunted parks of 200 acres in NOVA and of course my honey holes and KS. I Dont do any planting as i own nothing:( i do help 2 of my friends pland small plots and have in KS but its so far and hard and $$$ renting tractors, seed… And then there are the lease cows :) man I swear im gonna shoot one one day :) anyway nice to connect. Look at my post about KS partner!
    My Buck killing skills are sick – too bad there not contagious!!!
    July 4, 2014 at 8:16 pm #632818 Back to Top REPORT
    playr158
    playr158

    Age: 29
    Joined: 2/11/2014
    Where is this said 200 acres of parks!

    Anyone interested in a meet up and shoot at Bull run or other fun shooting area in Nova?

    July 6, 2014 at 7:23 am #632906 Back to Top REPORT
    led0321
    led0321

    Joined: 4/23/2008
    I am no longer in Virginia but I would love to have one more season up there with Sunday hunting being an option now.

    Good luck to you fellers.  I will be hunting/living NC for this year and traveling out of state to Indiana for the rut.

    July 7, 2014 at 8:07 am #632973 Back to Top REPORT
    bow4um
    BOW4UM

    Joined: 2/28/2008
    Location: VA

    Where is this said 200 acres of parks! 

    Anyone interested in a meet up and shoot at Bull run or other fun shooting area in Nova?

    I have Lee District and Amberleigh & Island Creek.

    My Buck killing skills are sick – too bad there not contagious!!!
    July 8, 2014 at 12:47 pm #633070 Back to Top REPORT
    playr158
    playr158

    Age: 29
    Joined: 2/11/2014
    How does one partake in such hunts? Alexandria isn’t very far from Dulles :)
    September 12, 2014 at 4:46 pm #645623 Back to Top REPORT
    mikes1047
    Mikes1047

    Joined: 12/23/2013
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    I too live in the great state of Virginia, NOVA.  Got to love the common wealth of VA.
    Lots of backyard shooting for me.  Also lots of whitetail in my backyard, that I would love to hunt. The problem for me is that it backs up to county property. Theres also a old farm that was baught by a land developer.  The farm is not in use, and not posted.  Its very tempting to hunt, I just don’t want trouble, and I like to do the right thing.  Whats your guys thoughts on hunting corporate land thats not posted?
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