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  • November 22, 2012 at 4:52 pm #496930 Back to Top REPORT
    poman
    PoMan

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    I read on some forum, don’t know if it was this one or Texasbowhunter, that if you pluck your string then cable they should sound about the same pitch. I know this isn’t rocket science but it makes sense to get reasonably the same tension on the string and cable. Anyone have any thoughts on this? I have a DXT that shoots well but I am always trying to get it at optimum performance. My string makes a dull thump and the cable is a lot higher pitched twang, and don’t laugh I’m from Texas and I know twang when I hear it.
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    November 22, 2012 at 5:36 pm #541450 Back to Top REPORT
    l-o-s-t-arrow
    L.O.S.T.Arrow

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    :whistle :p …Slight flaw in your Texas Theory… wayyyy too many variables…cable guard on cable…reverse assist , roller and slide will all sound different…bows ata will change that also..accessories on string or cable will again change that..cable has yoke on QCC’s….. :smt15 :smt15 come to think about it…thats just silly :^O :^O

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    Neil

    November 22, 2012 at 11:32 pm #541451 Back to Top REPORT
    jeeper
    Jeeper

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    Gary….I think you must have been on a Stradivarius site. :-S :-S

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    November 23, 2012 at 2:10 am #541452 Back to Top REPORT
    poman
    PoMan

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    OK, OK, you guys are just no fun. Makes perfect sense now that I think about it. I think I might just get me a bow and see if I can make some music anyway. Could be fun while I sit in the stand and wait for Mr. Big to come along. Thanks for the help guys. Honestly I did read this somewhere.
    Mathews Helim 65/27.5 Mathews DXT 70/27.5 All black.
    November 23, 2012 at 4:19 pm #541453 Back to Top REPORT
    l-o-s-t-arrow
    L.O.S.T.Arrow

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    November 23, 2012 at 5:00 pm #541454 Back to Top REPORT

    yotebuster1200

    Joined: 9/23/2009
    I read on some forum, don’t know if it was this one or Texasbowhunter, that if you pluck your string then cable they should sound about the same pitch. I know this isn’t rocket science but it makes sense to get reasonably the same tension on the string and cable. Anyone have any thoughts on this? I have a DXT that shoots well but I am always trying to get it at optimum performance. My string makes a dull thump and the cable is a lot higher pitched twang, and don’t laugh I’m from Texas and I know twang when I hear it.

    Just think of a Guitar. The longer the string the lower the sound. If you place your finger on one of the middle frets (or roller guard) you will double the frequency of the string and make a higher pitched “twang”. Are you talking about plucking the main string or the string that goes over the roller guard?

    Either way I think I will stick with my current tuning methods. :)

    November 24, 2012 at 8:10 am #541455 Back to Top REPORT
    phyremedyk
    phyremedyk

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    Yes, the SBXT has a great reputation for being one of the best all around bowhunting bows made by Mathews.

    First, the bow needs to be in specs with limbs maxed out to get designed efficiency/speed. An important aspect in my opinion is to achieve specs with a balanced tension between the string and cable … when plucked like a guitar, they should sound somewhat alike. Cam rotation/timing is very important to peak DW, DL and to arrow speed. I like to twist the string to get the ATA about 1/8″ long, then twist the cam to get the correct timing/rotation, then make final adjustments to the string to get correct ATA. Then check for equal tension on the string and cam. If the bow peak weight is low, add a twist or two in the cable to over rotate the cam a slight amount.

    This was a reply by gjarcher a week or so ago on another post in the general section. I remember reading that also, and it took a while to find, but you did see it.

    November 24, 2012 at 8:12 am #541456 Back to Top REPORT
    phyremedyk
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    November 26, 2012 at 9:38 pm #541457 Back to Top REPORT
    joaxe
    joaxe

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    Well…’scuse me while I kiss the sky!

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    Joe

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    November 29, 2012 at 11:41 pm #541458 Back to Top REPORT
    buckeyebowman
    buckeyebowman

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    Yes, the SBXT has a great reputation for being one of the best all around bowhunting bows made by Mathews.

    First, the bow needs to be in specs with limbs maxed out to get designed efficiency/speed. An important aspect in my opinion is to achieve specs with a balanced tension between the string and cable … when plucked like a guitar, they should sound somewhat alike. Cam rotation/timing is very important to peak DW, DL and to arrow speed. I like to twist the string to get the ATA about 1/8″ long, then twist the cam to get the correct timing/rotation, then make final adjustments to the string to get correct ATA. Then check for equal tension on the string and cam. If the bow peak weight is low, add a twist or two in the cable to over rotate the cam a slight amount.

    This was a reply by gjarcher a week or so ago on another post in the general section. I remember reading that also, and it took a while to find, but you did see it.[/quote:39jrvmjt]

    Bingo! We have a winner! It was gjarcher, replying to a post, who referenced trying to get equal tension on both the string and the cable. He also mentioned getting similar tones from each when plucking them. Now, if you have a string stop on the bow you might have to get it out of the way, or it will kill the string vibration right away.

    So, you see, PoMan, you were right all along!

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    November 30, 2012 at 2:56 pm #541459 Back to Top REPORT
    spurhunter
    spurhunter

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    I may be missing something but I can’t see where you couldn’t have equal tension on both with a single cam…the cable attaches to one side of the cam and both ends of the bow string attach to the other. You are just trying to balance everything so it corresponds with the timing holes, ATA and brace. Even when those are off the cams gonna move till it balances tension.
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