Split limb the future??

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  • May 16, 2013 at 2:48 am #578115 Back to Top REPORT
    aodhan
    Aodhan

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    I was really set to get the Helim. I loved the single limb design and the draw cycle. And then I tried the Creed. And that was it, I had to have the Creed.  Both the Creed and Chill, their premier bows, are split limb. So it looks like split limbs have a future with Mathews.
    May 16, 2013 at 6:50 am #578127 Back to Top REPORT
    straightedge123
    StraightEdge123

    Joined: 10/22/2007
    My thought is that split limbs are going to be more the rule than the exception for future Mathews offerings.  I really don’t care either way nor am I convinced that either split or single limbs have a clear advantage over the other.  Of course, I am not privy to data that the companies have concerning cost, reliability, and a dozen other factors.
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    May 16, 2013 at 8:59 am #578144 Back to Top REPORT

    bowbuilder

    Joined: 11/6/2009
    My thought is that split limbs will be the future and rule for all manufacturers, not just Mathews. I was looking in my Cabela’s Archery this morning, and noticed it was about 90% split limbs to 10% solid limbs for what they offer. Also, the Crossbows are almost all split limb now.

    I don’t know…maybe it is a combination of cheaper to manufacture and a slight efficiency advantage? Weight savings? Less limb failure issues? Easier to use a larger cam, like the Creed? There is something to it, as all seem to be headed that way.

    May 16, 2013 at 11:36 am #578160 Back to Top REPORT
    blackdog
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    My thought is that split limbs will be the future and rule for all manufacturers, not just Mathews. I was looking in my Cabela’s Archery this morning, and noticed it was about 90% split limbs to 10% solid limbs for what they offer. Also, the Crossbows are almost all split limb now.

    I don’t know…maybe it is a combination of cheaper to manufacture and a slight efficiency advantage? Weight savings? Less limb failure issues? Easier to use a larger cam, like the Creed? There is something to it, as all seem to be headed that way.

    I’m guessing it’s the over-sized cam and idlers that are driving the split-limb issue + resistance to limb twist.
    I used to own a Browning single cam (can’t remember the model name). It had one split limb and one solid limb. Browning claimed the split limb was more resistant to twist and used it on the cam limb.

    Sold it to a friend many years ago. He’s still using it. Had a 6.5 BH and was too long a draw for me. I couldn’t shoot it as well as I wanted. That bow was/is a very hard hitter. He shot a deer (moved on the shot) through the head last season. Shot was 30 yards. Arrow went clean through the skull. In one side and out the other. Needless to say the doe dropped on the spot. I was impressed with the bow/arrow/BH combination. BH held together. No broken blades and ferrule was intact.

    Sorry – off the subject {#emotions_dlg.mathews_crying}

    May 16, 2013 at 9:29 pm #578198 Back to Top REPORT
    bowcrazy30-2
    bowcrazy30

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    Hi my friends, well I must say I love the look of the new creed.  I love my monster MR7. The minute I drew the monster back I was in love with it and then I bought it! This of course was after I bought my Helim a month earlier. I have been wanting to shoot the Creed, because I am curious to how it feels compared to the Monster but Im afraid I will end up walking out the door with it. My friends I don’t think it will be a common practice for Mathews to make there solo cam bows with quad limbs. I think it was just how they had designed the cam and idler wheel that they decided to go with quad limbs {#emotions_dlg.mathews}
    May 17, 2013 at 6:50 pm #578251 Back to Top REPORT
    gjarcher
    gjarcher

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    I think split/quad limbs have been around for too long to be considered the “future”. At one time, making four limbs that matched in deflection, and that had less vitual mass than a single limb, was more of an art than a science. Consequently, not many manufacturers went with the quad-limb designs despite the theoretical advantages. Now, with better thermo-plastics and resins, and with CNC machining and Water Jet cutting, making four limbs to be matched in deflection, with less virtual mass, is possible.

    Like all things … they have their place and time ‘under the sun’. When engineering for the ultra-speed market, dual-cam and quad-limbs is a no-brainer, at least until someone makes an engineering break through with a new concept. However, when designing for the solocam market, walking back the ultra-speed designs to get an ultra-smooth draw cycle with competitive speeds and a reasonable brace height, the quad limbs and over-sized cam is the obvious choice.

    IMHO, there will be a place for the single limb, solocam bow in the future. Unfortunately, I don’t see that satisfying the ‘speed bow’ market.

    As far as esthetics … if esthetics were the end all and be all of good choices, average looking women/men would never get married, and gorgeous women/men wouldn’t be on their third or fourth wives/husbands, eh? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but true love runs deeper. {#emotions_dlg.mathews_peace}

    Gonna hunt with my split-limbed, dual cam, ugly Monster …but have the single limb, solocam Z7 Mag and Prestige as backups. Nothing like hedging bets, eh? {#emotions_dlg.mathews_love}

    May 17, 2013 at 7:56 pm #578255 Back to Top REPORT
    wrenchturner
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    I’m not really a split limb fan. I own a Helium and it is still the best bow I’ve ever shot. Has nothing to do with split or solid limbs. I will always try the new bows, when I find one I like, I’ll buy it. If it has split limbs, so be it. I personally liked the draw on the Helium better than the Creed, and I shoot better with it. Mathews will build another bow that I will fall in love with. Regardless of limb design, I will know it when I shoot it. That’s what happened the last two bows I’ve bought.
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