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  • May 17, 2013 at 7:45 am #578215 Back to Top REPORT
    hornhunter
    hornhunter

    Joined: 4/3/2009
    anybody ever use the tru-carbon products?
    May 17, 2013 at 10:18 am #578230 Back to Top REPORT
    bow-drawn
    Bow Drawn

    Joined: 11/14/2007
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    anybody ever use the tru-carbon products?

    {#emotions_dlg.misc_smwqblock}  Okay what is it and what is the web link to their web site?

    May 17, 2013 at 12:28 pm #578239 Back to Top REPORT
    gjarcher
    gjarcher

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    http://www.naturalpredator.com/index.php?page=modules/pages/index&id=3

    No, I haven used it. Court rulings on carbon scent control and reactivation prevented the use of 100% effective and reactivated ‘as new’, but at $7 to $13 a shot, what do you have to lose? A lot of anecdotal stories for and against aren’t going to mean a hoot as to what your field experience ends up being, eh?

    Since it is a particulate suspension in water, and washes off with soap and water, I am suspect about its effectiveness in rain. I searched VT institutes of Research, but could find no link to the study referenced, and which Natural Predator does not provide a link (somewhat disappointing). As all studies, they can easily be ‘tweaked’ or ‘re-interpreted’ to get desired results, or yielding limited or conditional results by choosing the test environment and parameters. Without knowing under what conditions the tests were conducted, how the statistics were compiled and presented, what sensitivity analysis was employed if any, and how the results relate to the olfactory sensitivity of wild game (deer, hogs, bear, etc.), as a System Analyst (MS-Operations Research), I remain skeptical.

    However, and many years ago, I was the Surface Forces Pacific Fleet Chemical Warfare Training Officer and dealt with a number of activated carbon products, from gas mask filters, to clothing, to air ventilation filters. I was not impressed with the effectiveness of activated carbon’s vapor elimination and disappointed with the short-term period when the activated carbon was moderately effective (the best was the Canadian suits with one weeks worth of field use then discarded). This was military spec activated carbon concentrations, which was purer (% of activation) and applied heavier duty than the commercial products that I’ve seen.

    JMHO {#emotions_dlg.mathews_peace}

    July 3, 2013 at 7:50 pm #582915 Back to Top REPORT
    elk-assassin
    Elk Assassin

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    I’ve told this story before on here, but I’ll do it again. I had a buddy who was a cop with a bomb dog. We did a test with his dog to see if scent control products effectively masked the scent of  the bomb. So we did a bunch of experiments one afternoon. We took three or four scent control shirts we had and wrapped the dummy bomb in them. Lets just say that the dog had absolutely no problem hitting the bomb, especially down wind (he usually picked the bomb up at about 30yds down wind). Then we took some towels and sprayed scent killer, the carbon spray (can’t remember the specific brand), and another product. We essentially drenced the towels in the stuff and then wrapped the dummy bomb in it. Again, the dog had zero problem getting to the bomb.

    In my opinion, if a dog can smell a dummy bomb wrapped under several layers of cloth and can detect a bomb, there is absolutely no problem with a deer or elk picking up a sweaty human wrapped in the same stuff.

    Save your money and buy some wind indicator.

    July 4, 2013 at 6:48 pm #582985 Back to Top REPORT
    hotshot
    Hotshot

    Age: 54
    Joined: 11/1/2008
    Location: Oregon
    I absolutely agree Elk Assasin….

    I was involved in a scent test a lot like yours. Same results. I save my money on scent control products….which are a shiny penny for sure.

    I carry two bottles of white powder wind check. The only scent control I believe in is being down wind.

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    August 26, 2013 at 11:22 am #592050 Back to Top REPORT

    lankkari

    Joined: 11/18/2008
    The most effective “sent control” I have found was smoking my clothing.  I built a 4×8 box for smoking deer hides and a couple times during the season smoked my clothing with wet natural forages (grasses, pine needles, and sage brush mostly).  I had one doe spot me set up on a buck behind her and came closer to investigate and circled down wind at about 30 yards.  After being down wind for a couple minutes (seemed like hours…) she quietly walked away and I still had an opportunity on the buck.  I also had a nice 3 point buck at 6 yards with circling winds and he also just quietly  walked away.
    Not saying you don’t need to worry about wind, just that the smell of smoke is extremely over powering and can aid when thing don’t go quite as planned…  And it is very cheap compared to other products.

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 3 months ago by  lankkari.
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