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  • August 3, 2013 at 12:09 pm #587064 Back to Top REPORT
    jpierce111
    jpierce111

    Joined: 8/13/2010
    I have  a QAD  HD rest on my Z7 bow.
    Installation instructions state in BOLD letters that the timing cord’s cable clamp should be installed at least 3″ under the rest. I have found nothing that tells why it should be that low. Can anyone tell me?
    The rest comes with the standard  and an optional TL1 launcher.
    Don’t quite understand which launcher should be on which bow.
    Any input is appreciated.
    August 5, 2013 at 8:01 pm #587514 Back to Top REPORT
    99fatboy
    99fatboy

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    there are several reasons why it needs to be attached 3″ below,or even with bottom of grip.(1) you want the rest to come up for the timing marks to align in the last 1″ of the draw cycle.(2) the cord needs to pull from a low position to “roll” the thumbwheel into place, not pull rearward. (3) the lower the cord is attached , the less movement there is required from the cable to set and to trip the rest. in other words , it will set late and activate early in the draw cycle. as far as what launcher to use on the z7, we have always used the stock one, the tl1 is only needed for rare clearance issues on bows with goofy geometry and shelf/berger hole relationship.
    black z7 magnum,tommy hogg,qad,b-stingers, vaportrail: blue smoke triumph,sword,hamskae,b-stingers:desert tactical chill R, tommy hogg,limbdriver pro v,ktech
    August 6, 2013 at 3:41 am #587569 Back to Top REPORT
    straightedge123
    StraightEdge123

    Joined: 10/22/2007

    there are several reasons why it needs to be attached 3″ below,or even with bottom of grip.(1) you want the rest to come upfor the timing marks to alignin the last 1″ of the draw cycle.(2) the cord needs to pull from a low position to “roll” the thumbwheel into place, not pull rearward. (3) the lower the cord is attached , the less movement thereis required from the cable to set and to trip the rest. in other words , it will set late and activate early in the draw cycle. as far as what launcher to use on the z7, we have always used the stock one, the tl1 is only needed for rare clearance issues on bows with goofy geometry and shelf/berger hole relationship.

    What he aptly said.

    {#emotions_dlg.mathews_nerd}

    Mathews S2 / Copper John 4-pin / QAD HD LD / Worlds Best Strings / 808 Bowslings / Easton Bloodlines
    August 7, 2013 at 7:40 am #587742 Back to Top REPORT
    jpierce111
    jpierce111

    Joined: 8/13/2010

    there are several reasons why it needs to be attached 3″ below,or even with bottom of grip.(1) you want the rest to come upfor the timing marks to alignin the last 1″ of the draw cycle.(2) the cord needs to pull from a low position to “roll” the thumbwheel into place, not pull rearward. (3) the lower the cord is attached , the less movement thereis required from the cable to set and to trip the rest. in other words , it will set late and activate early in the draw cycle. as far as what launcher to use on the z7, we have always used the stock one, the tl1 is only needed for rare clearance issues on bows with goofy geometry and shelf/berger hole relationship.

    Sounds like all the logical reasons I thought of to begin with. Makes it even harder to understand why the proshop that originally installed it for me tied in the timing cord barely 1″ below the rest. Thanks for confirming the obvious.

    August 7, 2013 at 2:30 pm #587792 Back to Top REPORT
    99fatboy
    99fatboy

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    rookies!!!! might want to find another shop or at least a tech that knows what’s up. there are many rests on the market and several of them have their own unique setup to make them work properly.
    black z7 magnum,tommy hogg,qad,b-stingers, vaportrail: blue smoke triumph,sword,hamskae,b-stingers:desert tactical chill R, tommy hogg,limbdriver pro v,ktech
    August 7, 2013 at 7:19 pm #587813 Back to Top REPORT
    vash
    vash

    Joined: 5/30/2010

    there are several reasons why it needs to be attached 3″ below,or even with bottom of grip.(1) you want the rest to come upfor the timing marks to alignin the last 1″ of the draw cycle.(2) the cord needs to pull from a low position to “roll” the thumbwheel into place, not pull rearward. (3) the lower the cord is attached , the less movement thereis required from the cable to set and to trip the rest. in other words , it will set late and activate early in the draw cycle. as far as what launcher to use on the z7, we have always used the stock one, the tl1 is only needed for rare clearance issues on bows with goofy geometry and shelf/berger hole relationship.

    Sounds like all the logical reasons I thought of to begin with. Makes it even harder to understand why the proshop that originally installed it for me tied in the timing cord barely 1″ below the rest. Thanks for confirming the obvious.[/quote]

    My bow shop went with a generous two inches. I moved it below the grip.

    August 7, 2013 at 8:19 pm #587827 Back to Top REPORT
    jabber
    Jabber

    Joined: 8/2/2012
    Location: Ontario
    The QAD string has to be mounted lower on the down cable to maximize vertical travel and thus turn the rest more efficiently. If it is mounted higher or almost parallel to the rest, when you draw, most of the motion of the qad string is sideways, thus not as efficient at turning the rest where it needs to be.

    I think people mount it higher as that where the serving ends on the down cable. This stops the QAD string from slipping when D loop knotted to the down cable. In some bows this works fine, like in the Creed, where the serving on the down cable ends well below the rest, but in some others, like the Helim, the serving ends about an inch below the rest. In situations like this, the clamp that comes with the rest should be used to achieve the required 3 inches instead of using a D loop knot.

    August 8, 2013 at 2:48 pm #587966 Back to Top REPORT
    99fatboy
    99fatboy

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    IMG_0440this is how we tie the cords in on our rests.
    black z7 magnum,tommy hogg,qad,b-stingers, vaportrail: blue smoke triumph,sword,hamskae,b-stingers:desert tactical chill R, tommy hogg,limbdriver pro v,ktech
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