anybody on here installing nufletch,www.nufletch.com,products on their arrows..if so how do you like them?
Joined: 11/17/2008I saw em in a store the other day I was wondering about the wieght issue! Great idea though until you robin hood one!
Joined: 9/2/2011I have used them and like them they hold up really well and they don’t weigh that much.
Joined: 11/17/2008Do you just cut the arrow shorter and put a insert for it to screw into the top?website said to cut the arrow 2.75″ shorter,install a insert on back of the arrow,then just thread it in..
Joined: 4/22/2010I don’t like the idea of adding that much weight to the back of the arrow. Buy a jig and learn to customize your own arrows and you still have all the options of wraps, feathers, vanes, etc…."it's funny how it's the little things in life that mean the most" - zac brownYou are wise to ask.
First, you take a $90 to $140 set of carbon shafts and cut them 2.75″ shorter than you could other wise use them so that you can install $50 worth of adapters, that can only use specially made Norway 1.7″ Fusion or Zeon vanes, and not accept the standard 2″ Fusion/Zeon/R2, or 3″ vanes.
Consider that Norway Ind. founder just recently died and Norway Industries just sold out to Quadel Industries, a company with no previous archery connection. Who knows where the new owner will decide to take vane production and development?
http://quadel.net/blog/?category_name=a … -fletching
They could be the best fletch in the the history of the World … but so were Beta VCRs better than the VHS.
didnt know that Brian. Sold out to a newbie ? I will stick to throwin together vanes onto my own arrowsQuadel Ind. has a new forum for Norway Vanes. I wanted to get on the forum so I could ask some critical questions, such as about continued support for the NuFletch Vane System, but discovered that the forum is dysfunctional, with no way to register or view topics without log-on.
… not a good sign.
Joined: 5/11/2011It’s a neat idea, but IMO needs refining. I know a person who tried them and absolutely hated them and there he was with 6 previously good arrows now only good for the junk can. I can think of better ways/things to spend my money on. I agree with the above, learn to do it the conventional way!!!!! Shoot straight.Hopefully they will grow and offer more vane choices in the futureMy heavy-weight Elk arrows are based on .300 spine shafts. The ACC 3-71′s are 492-gr with 14.7% FOC, the VAP 300 w/ SS Adapter are 481-gr with 19.3% FOC.
Out of curiosity, I ran some numbers to see what it would take to make up a dozen ST Axis N-Fused shafts with Nufletch Vane System for the 60/28 Monster.
I couldn’t find what the weights of the Nufletch components are, so I assumed a total of 50 grains, plus the 16 grains for the HIT insert, and 7 gr each for the NuFletch Fusion Vanes. I rigged the OT2 software to treat each vane as the vane weight plus 1/3rd of the NuFletch body weight and added the nock end HIT insert as a nock bushing. This isn’t really correct, but should give an FOC calculation correct to at least ±1%.
With a 100-gr broadhead, it looks like one could go down two sizes in spine, from a .300 to a .400, due largely to the very short shaft and all the nock end weight. However, the arrow FOC would only be about 4%, well below the Easton recommended minimum of 10% for good broadhead flight.
In order to get an acceptable minimum 10% FOC or more for good broadhead flight, it looks like one could only go down one size in spine, from a .300 to a .340, and add at least a 75-gr brass HIT insert to the 125-gr or a 75-gr brass HIT insert with a 145-gr broadhead.
I don’t have any hands-on experience with the NuFletch Vane System, so this is only an educated guess. I suspect that with the stiff 2.75″ nock end and the very short shaft, one could actually go down to a point where OT2 shows the dynamic spine to be weak, yet the shafts will shoot and tune well.
Perhaps, someone with NuFletch Vane System experience can run some numbers with accurate weights and real world results.
Joined: 12/3/2012Hi All,
John from NuFletch here… I wanted to respond to gjarcher as he has done some interesting work. I think it is is awesome that you guys have a great site and share good information. Lord knows we all need a little help these days choosing from the ALL the offerings in the archery industry…
First: I would not bring to you a product that does not give you results (period)!
One problem that we quickly recognized when people were trying to learn about the NuFletch system was there was no place to gather information on how the installation would effect arrow flight and tuning. Today’s formulas use FOC based on traditional arrow fletch and flight. NuFletch changes the game by allowing the balance point of the arrow to change from FOC forward 10-14% back towards balance at 1-3%. So the immediate question is…what does this radical change in FOC do to arrow flight. Let’s first ask this question… What is FOC? If we all answered this we would all pretty much agree it is the required amount of front of center weight needed to make the arrow fly. NuFletch went the next step and asked… Why do we need the arrow to have FOC? what is happening that requires the arrow’s flight to need the weight forward. The answer is oscillation…. To keep this short and to the point… Oscillation effects your arrows performance down range…. think about this…. at launch the arrow is deflected in a direction…left, right up or down. The deflection allows the arrow to catch wind in a direction that is not the intended direction of the flight. If you couple that with a large fixed broadhead, the oscillation allows the boradhead to catch wind or “plane” in the wind-stream. The fact that we have put a 100 grain or 125 grain broadhead on the arrow depicts that we have built in weight forward of the center point. If we stop long enough to think about this. We realize that the long slim object (arrow) with weight on the front, sitting on the rest will resist immediate movement (instant energy from the release of the string)… simple physics… the resistance produces a flex or bend that sets up oscillation. So when we really think about it…it’s a catch 22… we have been building the one thing into the arrow that we are trying to remove… oscillation!
NuFletch helps to promote immediate recovery of the arrow… it does so by allowing the shortening of the shaft… remember the shorter the stick the tougher it becomes to bend… So with NuFletch you shorten the arrow, add an insert.. stiffen it again… then add the aluminum NuFletch ferrule… for max stiffness. Now the arrow will launch without as much flex, oscillate less… keep the fixed broadhead in line with the direction of flight without adding the problem of wind planing. The stiff NuFletch arrow will recover more quickly and because it recovers quickly and looses less energy through oscillation, it can carry the added weight efficiently down range. The added weight of the NuFletch becomes the hunter’s friend as it adds mass and KE to the arrow. All of this, and it provides for instant fletch replacement with no tools. It also guarantees perfect fletch alignment time and time again.
gj… you are spot on in your weight calculations for most standard arrows adding approximately 50-55 grains once the arrow has been cut and fitted with the insert….
There is a lot to NuFletch …. but the product is simple to install, simple to fletch and very accurate.. it gives the archer freedom from glue, instant fletch and ease of travel by take down…
Sorry for the long wind…. please reach out to any of our pro staff shooters to get their honest opinions….
Like all of you we are real people just trying to make our hunting more successful! If we can assist anyone.. please feel free to contact us.. we will certainly try to help!
Thanks all,… John
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