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  • December 4, 2012 at 2:01 pm #497085 Back to Top REPORT
    mitchcarter
    mitchcarter

    Joined: 6/21/2008
    Y’all think this is the same deer? Exact same location the past 3 years and same pattern. Shows up in late November every year. I videoed him for an hour last year on dec 11.

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    2011

    2010

    December 4, 2012 at 2:10 pm #542929 Back to Top REPORT
    reggoh
    Reggoh

    Joined: 12/28/2006
    Location: Louisiana
    Thats a tough one… I think it could be the same deer but something is telling me that it isnt…

    Here is what I see
    1. shorter brow tines in 2012
    2. Shape of the rack changes from year to year (its close but just seems off a little to me)
    3. 2012 picture has a hitch in his right ear that I cant see in the previous 2 years… but he could have gotten that from one year to the next.

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    December 4, 2012 at 2:20 pm #542930 Back to Top REPORT
    mitchcarter
    mitchcarter

    Joined: 6/21/2008
    I am positive 2010 & 2011 are the same deer. Hundreds of pics both years. Different angles show him better. Didn’t want to post 200 pics though….

    What sticks out to me is the straightness of the left G2 & G3 and the curvature of the G2 & G3 on his right beam, seems very similar. The crab claw shape on the right beam is also very similar in 11 & 12.

    December 4, 2012 at 3:11 pm #542931 Back to Top REPORT
    thehunter
    TheHunter

    Joined: 3/2/2011
    The body posture from 2011 and 2012 is the same and the rack has the same shape, I’d say if he’s not the same one he’s a close relative.
    December 4, 2012 at 3:20 pm #542932 Back to Top REPORT

    bigeasygator

    Age: 35
    Joined: 9/12/2007
    Location: LA
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    Don’t know that I’m an expert, but looks like the same deer to me (at least 2011 and 2012 do). The straightness on the left side and the way the G3 on the right has that curve to it. I’d say it’s the same deer. Little harder to tell if the 2010 deer is or isn’t.
    December 4, 2012 at 3:50 pm #542933 Back to Top REPORT
    q2hunter
    q2hunter

    Joined: 6/21/2007
    Location: Virginia
    I agree that ’10 and ’11 are same deer. ’12 could be, very possible, but there are some differences. Like someone else said, the brows, its very odd for the brows to loose like that, and the sweep of the beams. Of course the sweep of the beams is more likely to occur with the age and maturity. If it is, I think there is no doubt he is 4.5 this year :thumbup
    December 4, 2012 at 4:11 pm #542934 Back to Top REPORT
    mitchcarter
    mitchcarter

    Joined: 6/21/2008
    He would be 5.5 this year. I’m pretty positive he is 3.5 in the first pic. We’re in Alabama! I wish my 2 year olds looked like that.

    Best shot of his body from 2010

    Body shot from 2011

    December 4, 2012 at 4:19 pm #542935 Back to Top REPORT
    l-o-s-t-arrow
    L.O.S.T.Arrow

    Joined: 5/16/2006
    Location: Alberta
    :D Doesnt make sence for brows to shrink every year :D

    well around here anyway :p
    JMHO
    Neil

    December 4, 2012 at 5:49 pm #542936 Back to Top REPORT
    reggoh
    Reggoh

    Joined: 12/28/2006
    Location: Louisiana
    Something else to consider… his brows look pretty thin in the 10 and 11 pictures… they could have been longer in the 12 picture and just be broken off…

    The difference in the shape of the rack still gets me… just a different shape coming off the skull… The 2010 and 2011 pictures the rack seems to go UP before it starts going out… in the 2012 picture it almost go straight out to the side… :smt69

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    December 4, 2012 at 6:11 pm #542937 Back to Top REPORT
    mitchcarter
    mitchcarter

    Joined: 6/21/2008
    Hopefully I will have more pics of him this weekend. Like I said he just recently showed up this season and I only have one sequence of pictures of him. Heck, hopefully I can go ahead and get an arrow in him this weekend and get some REALLY GOOD pictures of him. The temps are in the mid 70′s all this week though….. ](*,) ](*,)
    December 4, 2012 at 6:25 pm #542938 Back to Top REPORT
    mitchcarter
    mitchcarter

    Joined: 6/21/2008
    The crook at the end of his right G3 is what I’m stuck on.
    December 4, 2012 at 7:28 pm #542939 Back to Top REPORT
    bobbor76
    bobbor76

    Joined: 11/26/2004
    Location: South Dakota

    Thats a tough one… I think it could be the same deer but something is telling me that it isnt…

    Here is what I see
    1. shorter brow tines in 2012 Mature buck now fighting for dominace.Worn down rubbing or broken during fighting.[/color:f4drdxyl]
    2. Shape of the rack changes from year to year (its close but just seems off a little to me)Different years, hot & dry vs plenty of water, different food source quality depending on the weather[/color:f4drdxyl]
    3. 2012 picture has a hitch in his right ear that I cant see in the previous 2 years… but he could have gotten that from one year to the next.Fighting Injury. Dominate buck now just fighting to hold the job. [/color:f4drdxyl][/quote:f4drdxyl]

    Great observations Reggoh, but I think it’s the same critter with just normal growth and wear and tear.[/color:f4drdxyl]

    December 4, 2012 at 8:32 pm #542940 Back to Top REPORT
    deere-farmer
    Deere Farmer

    Age: 40
    Joined: 11/12/2008
    Location: Van Wert County, Ohio

    Thats a tough one… I think it could be the same deer but something is telling me that it isnt…

    Here is what I see
    1. shorter brow tines in 2012 Mature buck now fighting for dominace.Worn down rubbing or broken during fighting.[/color:1pz5ptw8]
    2. Shape of the rack changes from year to year (its close but just seems off a little to me)Different years, hot & dry vs plenty of water, different food source quality depending on the weather[/color:1pz5ptw8]
    3. 2012 picture has a hitch in his right ear that I cant see in the previous 2 years… but he could have gotten that from one year to the next.Fighting Injury. Dominate buck now just fighting to hold the job. [/color:1pz5ptw8][/quote:1pz5ptw8]

    Great observations Reggoh, but I think it’s the same critter with just normal growth and wear and tear.[/color:1pz5ptw8][/quote:1pz5ptw8]

    :agree with Bobber! I think its the same deer. :thumbup. I hope you get a crack at him. :thumbup

    December 4, 2012 at 9:34 pm #542941 Back to Top REPORT
    l-o-s-t-arrow
    L.O.S.T.Arrow

    Joined: 5/16/2006
    Location: Alberta

    Thats a tough one… I think it could be the same deer but something is telling me that it isnt…

    Here is what I see
    1. shorter brow tines in 2012 Mature buck now fighting for dominace.Worn down rubbing or broken during fighting.[/color:3dz3ngb2]
    2. Shape of the rack changes from year to year (its close but just seems off a little to me)Different years, hot & dry vs plenty of water, different food source quality depending on the weather[/color:3dz3ngb2]
    3. 2012 picture has a hitch in his right ear that I cant see in the previous 2 years… but he could have gotten that from one year to the next.Fighting Injury. Dominate buck now just fighting to hold the job. [/color:3dz3ngb2][/quote:3dz3ngb2]

    Great observations Reggoh, but I think it’s the same critter with just normal growth and wear and tear.[/color:3dz3ngb2][/quote:3dz3ngb2]

    :agree with Bobber! I think its the same deer. :thumbup. I hope you get a crack at him. :thumbup[/quote:3dz3ngb2]

    [-( …I hope its three entirely different deer with the same gentics…

    :whistle Than Mitch may have three good bucks to shoot at… :^O :^O

    hellllloooooo……. :p

    December 5, 2012 at 12:58 am #542942 Back to Top REPORT
    buckeyebowman
    buckeyebowman

    Age: 61
    Joined: 9/9/2004
    The crook at the end of his right G3 is what I’m stuck on.

    I’d feel pretty confident saying that the 2012 and 2011 pics are the same deer. 2010? Who knows? Quite a bit smaller, no crab claw at the end of the right main beam, but the overall conformation is very similar. I’m just wondering if the crook on the right G3 could have been caused by damage while still in velvet. Also, in the 2012 pic, I think his brow tines are broken off. I’d like to see the deer that could break the bow tines off that guy! :D

    It's not how far you shoot, but how close you get.
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