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  • February 26, 2014 at 6:22 pm #620717 Back to Top REPORT
    hotshot
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    Check this out…I am sure the opinions on this will spill over….wow…

    What are your thoughts on what happens?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h14PveFwLeI

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    February 26, 2014 at 6:46 pm #620722 Back to Top REPORT
    drenleg1
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    That’s a bad spot to be in with an animal for sure.  That’s a pretty hefty creature coming at you like that.
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    February 26, 2014 at 6:47 pm #620723 Back to Top REPORT
    bigrobc
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    February 27, 2014 at 6:53 am #620762 Back to Top REPORT
    q2hunter
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    Wow….would be VERY difficult to NOT do the same thing.  He gave it two chances to leave, one false charge, and one VERY real charge + plus the yelling and clapping.  I see no wrongful judgment.
    February 27, 2014 at 8:51 am #620774 Back to Top REPORT
    blackdog
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    IMO the moose wasn’t a problem til he advanced towards it.

    He should have waited it out from a distance rather than forcing his way.

    It probably would have meanadered off givin some time. I think the moose considered it a ‘charge’ when the guy
    first moved closer to it. The moose then decided to stand his ground.

    If the guy would have backed off before the actual charge I think all would have ended ok.
    JMPO.

    February 27, 2014 at 9:26 am #620779 Back to Top REPORT
    hotshot
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    Yeah, this was “to bad”. I keep wondering if there was a calf near by which was part of this attack by the moose.

    A couple things…… I wonder why the guy didn’t end it. Why didn’t he pop her in the head as he drove by? Instead he left her laying there, dying.
    Next, as BlackDog mentioned, why not hold back. He did advance toward her. It was fairly obvious that she was holding her ground on the trail.
    I think I would have hung back for awhile. Let her move off. Since he had a gun, maybe let a few boom into the air if she didn’t leave after awhile?
    Hard to question his actions as I was not there. Wow, he did take a few to the chest area….bet that hurt. I am glad he and his son are ok. Just to bad it ended the way it did for the moose.

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    February 27, 2014 at 3:21 pm #620794 Back to Top REPORT
    elc1973
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    ITS easy to sit here and say what should have been done but things happen in the woods and you use the best judgement at the time.i can see that he could have done things differently but can’t say that I would not have done the same thing in that situation. I think all around it was just a bad situation for everything involved. He probably went back after he cleaned his shorts out to make sure she was dead at least I hope he did.
    February 27, 2014 at 5:53 pm #620816 Back to Top REPORT
    jeeper
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    I tend to agree with BlackDog and some of the other comments above. When the moose didn’t move, why did he keep advancing toward it? If you know anything about moose, that was an accident waiting to happen. If it had been me, I would have backed off and found another trail. Personally, I think it was poor judgement on his part. And, yes, let’s hope he had the decency to go back and finish it off. {#emotions_dlg.mathews_peace}
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    February 28, 2014 at 11:23 am #620890 Back to Top REPORT
    bow-drawn
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    I agree with you guys here. This outcome would have been much different if he sat there a minute or more to give that moose some time. I’m like Hotshot with a guess as to why the moose charged and was there a calf. And I wonder what happened after he shot it and drove on past.

    This is the caption down below this video. Does this caption give much of a rational reason for what took place other than defending himself. Game Warden probably never saw this video I bet.

    “Real Moose Attack Animal Attack Angry Moose Attacks, kicking Father in chest on snowmobile
    A man, age 51 with a life threatening heart condition (dilated cardiomyopathy), while snowmobiling out west with his son, comes upon a moose in the wild. Concerned that an animal attack might be about to happen, the site seeing experience goes bad when the moose, not wanting to be on camera, decides to charge. Coming over the snowmobile, the 1,000 pound bull attacks, kicking the Dad in the chest; the moose’s intentions were clear. This was one angry animal attack. With only a hand gun to defend himself and his son, the Father fires a warning shot only to quickly fire 4 more to defer a 2nd attack…when animals attack.”

    February 28, 2014 at 3:31 pm #620911 Back to Top REPORT
    jeeper
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    My guess is that here in Ontario, if a Conservation Officer saw that video the man would be charged with poaching (or at least some offense).
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    February 28, 2014 at 9:02 pm #620933 Back to Top REPORT
    trouble-shooter
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    I have read somewhere that the game depts. are currently looking for this guy.  May not have been a wise thing to post it up on the net.{#emotions_dlg.typotux}

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    March 1, 2014 at 9:36 am #620951 Back to Top REPORT
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    March 2, 2014 at 3:15 pm #621045 Back to Top REPORT
    newbowhunter2014
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    Senseless!  Why couldn’t he let the moose leave!  I hope they charge his butt and make him pay restitution for the moose!
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    March 3, 2014 at 8:43 am #621124 Back to Top REPORT
    q2hunter
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    I can see the points of what he SHOULD have done in the beginning, and can’t disagree with these points.  However, looking at it from my standpoint, if I were in an area with moose, having had no previous experience with them, and having lots of experience with whitetails and black bear, I probably would have thought it ok to advance toward it a little also.  Advance toward a whitetail or a black bear in my area, and they will leave, usually well on their way to leaving prior to the point this guy got to.

    I just cant see ANY type of intentional provocative action here.  And, after the bluff charge and very real and endangering charge, that shooting (to me) is completely justified.  I am a wildlife conservationist to the 10th degree.  Year around, I am doing things to improve habitat, food sources, and heard health on my property. However, I will not value an animals life over my own or someone elses. I would be HIGHLY disappointed if this man were charged with anything criminal.  Charged with poor judgment in the beginning, or stupidity (lack of knowledge of behavior of this particular species)…..maybe so.  But criminal….where do we draw the line between the value of human life and wild animals.  I for one, place much more value on human life.

    March 3, 2014 at 9:03 am #621128 Back to Top REPORT
    q2hunter
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    I can see the points of what he SHOULD have done in the beginning, and can’t disagree with these points. However, looking at it from mystandpoint, if I were in an area with moose, having had no previous experience with them, and having lots of experience with whitetails and black bear, I probably would have thought it ok to advance toward it a little also. Advance toward a whitetail or a black bear in my area, and they will leave, usually well on their way to leaving prior to the point this guy got to. 

    I just cant see ANY type of intentional provocative action here. And, after the bluff charge and very real and endangering charge, that shooting (to me) is completely justified. I am a wildlife conservationist to the 10th degree. Year around, I am doing things to improve habitat, food sources, and heard health on my property. However, I will not value an animals life over my own or someone elses.I would be HIGHLY disappointed if this man were charged with anything criminal. Charged with poor judgment in the beginning, or stupidity (lack of knowledge of behavior of this particular species)…..maybe so. But criminal….where do we draw the line between the value ofhuman life and wild animals. I for one, place much more value on human life.

    To another point, a very real situation I once had happen with an English pointer I had.  This dog was a grouse hunting machine, best bird dog I’ve ever had, and in 7 years of having him he never once snarled at me or my two then young children.  I would turn him loose in the yard and the kids, then probably 6 and 4 years old would wool him to death.  He loved the attention and would roll and jump and play with them.  One Saturday in February, I took him out for an afternoon 1/2 day hunt.  We found a few birds, and late in the evening about an hour before dark he locked up on a bird about 75 yards from me.  I whoa’d him, and the grouse ran out from under the brush in front of him and strutted…..anyone who knows bird dogs knows this is near impossible for a dog to resist advancing when they actually see the bird.  He didn’t move a muscle, allowing me to get within range, although a large briar patch between us.  I gave the “go ahead” command and he flushed the bird and killed it completing a daily limit of 3 birds.  He fetched the bird, proud as punch, and proceeded to bring the bird around the briars in my direction.  To this day, I don’t know exactly what happened, but he stiffened up, fell to his rear hounches, and began to cease.  Shaking violently, and falling over.  I ran to him, and he began to relax, laying on his side taking deep, heavy breaths.  I was talking to him softly, and could tell he was beginning to come around, when he snarled and snapped at me.  I quickly stood and backed off several feet, he got to his feet, looked at me, and bristled his hair on his back, snarled and showed his teeth, and broke in my direction.  I shot him at point blank range just has he left his feet to leap at me.  It broke my heart, but what if I would have fended him off, and he regain his senses?  Not a big dog, 32-35lbs, but as intense as the situation was, it honestly went through my head while this was happening, what if this would have happened in my yard with my kids? What if I was in the house, or around the house in the yard, which was often the case when I turned him out to play with the kids? My 6 or 4 year old couldn’t fend him off.  As disappointed as I was to put down a great bird dog, to this day I do not regret it one bit!

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