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  • March 27, 2013 at 11:38 am #571567 Back to Top REPORT
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    bowcrazy30

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    Hello my fellow bow crazed fans how are you all doing? I am doing great and gearing up for the upcoming gobbler season! I wanted to get your opinions on yet another topic. I have been debating with myself about getting the Monster Safari, I simply love the look of it and I love my MR7, so I am inclined to think that I will love the Safari. Do I need it no, but do I want it Oh YES!!! I think the fact that makes me want it even more is that Mathews does not make very many of them and I want to get one before they stop making them.. SO I feel that is were my tax return is going to go..
    March 27, 2013 at 12:24 pm #571576 Back to Top REPORT
    bow-drawn
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    Oh I agree – it is one sweet looking bow. The folks that own them say great things about them as well. I sure don’t see one for sale very often. When I have seen one they wanted more for it than a new MR6.

    I’d like to see one, handle it and shoot it before I owned one. And I know most shops will not have one for that purpose. I don’t like buying a bow without shooting it first and the Safari is going to very limited if not near impossible to do that around here.

    March 27, 2013 at 2:29 pm #571595 Back to Top REPORT
    blazinpond
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    Man I absolutely love mine! I can go from 72 lbs whitetail hunting to 85lbs pretty quick. Yes, I’m planning for an African Safari for next June (2014).

    Shot two P&Y whitetails with it over the past two years too! {#emotions_dlg.mathews_thumbs_up}

    March 27, 2013 at 3:34 pm #571605 Back to Top REPORT
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    Man I absolutely love mine! I can go from 72 lbs whitetail hunting to 85lbs pretty quick. Yes, I’m planning for an African Safari for next June (2014).

     

    Shot two P&Y whitetails with it over the past two years too!{#emotions_dlg.mathews_thumbs_up}

    That’s awesome! Good luck on your up coming safari also.. My only concern is the grip. I love the African wood inlays, and I love the walnut grips on both my Heli-M and MR7. My only concern is the grip. I really don’t care for the focus grip, so I hope that when I order my Safari, that I will love how it feels in my hand.. BlazinPond can you help me here? do you own any other Mathews bows with the walnut grip? how do they feel compared to your Safari?? thanks for your help

    March 27, 2013 at 6:58 pm #571654 Back to Top REPORT
    blazinpond
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    The grip on the Safari is the one thing that would make me purchase another exact same Monster Safari again!

    It is pure bliss!!

    The grip is easily my favorite ever made. I believe the Mathew tourny bows have the same integral grips as well.

    March 27, 2013 at 7:02 pm #571655 Back to Top REPORT
    blazinpond
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    Oh…and as far as the other grips, I do not really like the walnut grip on Mathew bows.

    I would always upgrade my Mathews bows to the Focus grip.

    I think the Focus is much better than the Walnut IMO.

    I have two Mathew Conquest Triumph bows with Focus grips on them and they shoot well for me. The only thing better would be the Integral grip!

    March 28, 2013 at 12:59 am #571703 Back to Top REPORT
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    bowcrazy30

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    Thank you and I am going to order my Safari, and I will be eagerly awaiting its arrival!
    March 28, 2013 at 7:39 am #571716 Back to Top REPORT

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    I hope you will like the safari as much as I like mine! I have had mine since July of 2011 and it is the best shooting bow I have had. The grip is awesome and allows me to hold better than I have ever been able to before! Part of that is the weight of the bow too but whatever it  shoots fantastic. I have the 70# model and shoot it at 67#s.  Keep me posted after you shoot yours for awhile!
    March 28, 2013 at 7:45 am #571719 Back to Top REPORT
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    I hope you will like the safari as much as I like mine! I have had mine since July of 2011 and it is the best shooting bow I have had. The grip is awesome and allows me to hold better than I have ever been able to before! Part of that is the weight of the bow too but whatever it shoots fantastic. I have the 70# model and shoot it at 67#s. Keep me posted after you shoot yours for awhile!

    I will and thank you.. I am getting excited I am going to Mikes bow shop after work today and order it! I am thinking about going with the 85lb but I don’t know. Thanks again guys for all your help and advice.. Take care and talk to you soon

    March 31, 2013 at 11:50 am #572228 Back to Top REPORT
    blazinpond
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    So…..

    Did you order it?  If so…CONGRATS!!The 85lb model is a super  smooth draw IMO … just don’t push it too fast to move up to that weight if you’ve never shot it before. Gradually build up. IMO, it not so much if you have the muscle to pull back 85lbs but that you have healthy tendons, ligaments and connective tissue to support the muscles/shoulder.

    A few things you may want to mention to your dealer during the ordering process…

    1) If you go with the 85 lb model, which I recommend, have your dealer throw in another set of mods so you can go from 70lb to 85lb and not have to modify the draw length to a significant degree. When my Safari is set at 85lb using Dangerous Game .200 spine shafts, I have 28″ mods in the cams. However, because my Safari shoots and holds so well at 70 lbs for whitetails, I put in 27.5″ mods and I believe the draw length is nearly the same regardless of draw weight.
    2) Consider asking dealer for a discount on a separate set of Monster Safari 70 lb limbs…

    I was surprised at how willing my dealer was to throw in/discount a few things due to how much I was spending…doesn’t hurt to ask!

    April 1, 2013 at 8:19 am #572326 Back to Top REPORT
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    Sadly I have not ordered the Safari yet, I didn’t get off work in time. But I am glad that I waited and I will be sure to ask my dealer those questions and thank you for taking the time to help me out. I was thinking about my arrows I shoot 250 carbon express maxima hunters if I go with the 85lb model will I need to go with a heavier arrow such as the 350′s? And that’s a good Idea about the 70lb limbs, I will make sure to get those as well. {#emotions_dlg.mathews_monster_red}{#emotions_dlg.mathews} Thanks again for all your help Blazinpond. and I will let you know as soon as I order it! I know I will be just like a small boy on Christmas Eve eagerly awaiting to see what Santa brings him on Christmas morning{#emotions_dlg.mathews_applause}
    April 1, 2013 at 11:25 am #572360 Back to Top REPORT
    blazinpond
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    No kidding! I ordered my Safari right away after marketing campaign and had to wait about 6 months before they worked the kinks out and made available to the public. That wait was the worst…but well worth it. My Monster Safari is extremely impressive at heavy arrow weight that it’s amazing to me. Well above IBO equivalent measurements {#emotions_dlg.mathews_thumbs_up}{#emotions_dlg.mathews_monster_red}

    Anyways, a 250 maxima would be way too light a spine for ANY 70lb Monster IMO.   {#emotions_dlg.mathews_nerd}

    Depending on your draw, a Maxima 350 arrow would be compatible for a 70lb…. bow but many shooters with longer arrows would likely need to go with the Maxima 450 arrow.

    At 85lbs, there are many more high quality arrow choices available than 5 years ago IMO.

    Per OT2 software and my Monster Safari setup, I am a perfect “hunting” spine at 85lbs with the following:

    1) Gold Tip Kinetic Pro .200 spine big game
    2) 28″ arrow
    3) 300 grain broadhead (VPA single bevel)
    4) 677 grain overall arrow weight (no footer installed)

    April 1, 2013 at 10:24 pm #572461 Back to Top REPORT
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    Ok, I am doing my best to understand the arrow weights but you did loose me a little, however I did get the just of it. Thank you for your help and I will go with a heavier arrow with the 85lb limbs. I am currently using 250 maxima hunters with 100 grain broad heads and field tips.. I was thinking about the Gold Tip 350′s with 100 grain broad heads and field tips unless I should go heavier still. and I will also talk to my pro shop as well. again thanks for your help and I will let you know when I order it..
    April 1, 2013 at 10:34 pm #572466 Back to Top REPORT
    blazinpond
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    No problems and sorry that i didn’t explain well.

    Carbon Express arrows are kinda backwards with their naming convention and spine.

    For example, a full length CE Maxima Hunter arrow shaft:

    Maxima 450 arrow is .298 spine
    Maxima 350 arrow is .337 spine
    Maxima 250 arrow is .417 spine

    The more weight your bow shoots, you will need a stronger spine arrow. In stronger, I am saying going from a .417 arrow to a .298 arrow.

    The Monster Safari bow at 85lbs will need an arrow beyond any of the Maxima range’s IMO.

    Therefore, you will need to look at Gold Tip, Easton, Victory, etc. They make good quality arrows that are either .200 spine or .250 spine that will be well suited to handle the high output of the Monster Safari at 85lbs.

    I have to have two sets of arrows for my Safari. One set is when it is tuned at 70lbs and another set (Gold Tip Kinetic Pro 200s) for when I have it set at 85lbs.

    That should help a bit…

    April 5, 2013 at 2:01 pm #572942 Back to Top REPORT
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    bowcrazy30

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    Thank you blazinpond, and you did a great job explaining Im still new to Archery and I’m still a ltitle green when it comes to arrows and arrow weights but I’m learning fast. Thanks again and thanks for taking the time to break it down to me so I understand better
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