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  • November 22, 2012 at 4:58 am #496926 Back to Top REPORT

    handirifle

    Joined: 7/6/2011
    Well since getting my new limbs it seems getting good solid groups with broadheads is a hit or miss affair. It has been suggested I check idler lean but since I have no assistance I figure I need to come up with a SAFE way to draw the bow myself, while being able to look the idler wheel over.

    It’s about a 45 min one way drive to the shop that installed them, and I have no doubts they would adjust them if it is off, but I want to be sure before i get in the car to go.

    Any suggestions on a way to lock the bow in vertical and check for lean? By one person?

    November 22, 2012 at 4:29 pm #541427 Back to Top REPORT
    l-o-s-t-arrow
    L.O.S.T.Arrow

    Joined: 5/16/2006
    Location: Alberta

    Well since getting my new limbs it seems getting good solid groups with broadheads is a hit or miss affair. It has been suggested I check idler lean but since I have no assistance I figure I need to come up with a SAFE way to draw the bow myself, while being able to look the idler wheel over.

    It’s about a 45 min one way drive to the shop that installed them, and I have no doubts they would adjust them if it is off, but I want to be sure before i get in the car to go.

    Any suggestions on a way to lock the bow in vertical and check for lean? By one person?[/quote:2thy5jpe]

    :D There is…a Hooter Shooter or a Draw Board..I have a electric press by Worlds best that has a vertical draw board….however that is much the way its done at factory and the idler is best set to you the shooter as it can very slightly from shooter to shooter…just need a half knowledgeable buddy with a good eye…

    Even if they can get you close you can than experiment with a twist or untwist left or right to find that “sweet spot” where the bow punches tacks…
    :thumbup
    Neil

    November 23, 2012 at 4:40 am #541428 Back to Top REPORT

    handirifle

    Joined: 7/6/2011
    Yea except I don’t have a press either, unfortunately. So I first need to see if the idler leans. Also unfortunate, is no one near me (I live rural) even shoots a bow. I will look up both item you mentioned and see about making one.

    Thanks

    November 23, 2012 at 5:04 am #541429 Back to Top REPORT

    handirifle

    Joined: 7/6/2011
    OK looked them up. :shock: :shock: :shock: The hooter shooter is WAY out of my world. The draw boards are doable, for sure so that is the way I will head, thanks.
    November 23, 2012 at 12:37 pm #541430 Back to Top REPORT
    statedriller
    statedriller

    Joined: 9/15/2006
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    Just draw and anchor then look up at the idler. You’ll see whether it’s coming off straight or not. Or have someone stand directly behind you and look at it while you are drawn….
    The end is near....
    November 23, 2012 at 3:01 pm #541431 Back to Top REPORT

    Jay Miller

    Joined: 2/6/2010
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    Just draw and anchor then look up at the idler. You’ll see whether it’s coming off straight or not. Or have someone stand directly behind you and look at it while you are drawn….

    x2 or have someone take pictures from behind and look at it yourself. I setup timer on my camera since the wife is usually working when I decide to do this.

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    November 23, 2012 at 4:18 pm #541432 Back to Top REPORT
    l-o-s-t-arrow
    L.O.S.T.Arrow

    Joined: 5/16/2006
    Location: Alberta
    :D problem of drawing the bow and trying to look at the idler lean is one torques the bow and anchor points are off so it doesnt give one a proper reading…
    :D
    Neil
    November 26, 2012 at 2:14 pm #541433 Back to Top REPORT
    2r_archery
    2R_ARCHERY

    Joined: 11/22/2010
    Can you have someone video you from behind?
    November 30, 2012 at 11:47 pm #541434 Back to Top REPORT

    handirifle

    Joined: 7/6/2011
    I think I will just rig up some sort of mechanical draw and have a look that way.
    December 1, 2012 at 3:19 pm #541435 Back to Top REPORT
    backhalfed
    backhalfed

    Joined: 10/5/2007
    Location: Ohio
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    Couldn’t this also be a weak spine issue [=}=]
    December 1, 2012 at 4:25 pm #541436 Back to Top REPORT
    statedriller
    statedriller

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    :D problem of drawing the bow and trying to look at the idler lean is one torques the bow and anchor points are off so it doesnt give one a proper reading…
    :D
    Neil[/quote:29srd8sc]

    If you’re at full draw and can’t swivel your eyeball up briefly without torquing the bow, you have some serious issues… :whistle :whistle :p

    The end is near....
    December 3, 2012 at 5:55 pm #541437 Back to Top REPORT
    l-o-s-t-arrow
    L.O.S.T.Arrow

    Joined: 5/16/2006
    Location: Alberta

    :D problem of drawing the bow and trying to look at the idler lean is one torques the bow and anchor points are off so it doesnt give one a proper reading…
    :D
    Neil[/quote:14ez9fui]

    If you’re at full draw and can’t swivel your eyeball up briefly without torquing the bow, you have some serious issues… :whistle :whistle :p[/quote:14ez9fui]

    :whistle You have to move your whole head to see string tracking properly..wreaking your form which may result in bow torque and other issues…maybe you -all in Illynoise can contort different than regular folks but….

    :p :hugs
    Neil

    December 3, 2012 at 10:31 pm #541438 Back to Top REPORT

    handirifle

    Joined: 7/6/2011
    OK well I finally just stuck my foot in the handle and pulled it back, and it looks like there is idler lean. In fact when the limbs are at rest, I measured with a straight edge and there is definite lean, even without being at full draw. One side the edge overlaps the string and the other side, the (straight) edge tracks away from the string.

    Now I guess it’s a matter of getting a press rigged up to correct the lean.

    At least I know what is next on my list of projects.

    Thursday AM I undergo shoulder surgery, so it will be quite a while before I draw the bow back again, or pick it up for that matter.

    I assume the limbs have just “settled” in which is the cause of the lean. I actually watched the guy checking idler lean with a straight edge when he installed them, so I know they must have shifted some.

    Am I assuming correctly that idler lean will cause erratic arrow flight? Or at least inconsistent flight? Today it was grouping real well, at 20yds at least, which was as far as I was testing it.

    December 3, 2012 at 10:47 pm #541439 Back to Top REPORT
    l-o-s-t-arrow
    L.O.S.T.Arrow

    Joined: 5/16/2006
    Location: Alberta

    OK well I finally just stuck my foot in the handle and pulled it back, and it looks like there is idler lean. In fact when the limbs are at rest, I measured with a straight edge and there is definite lean, even without being at full draw. One side the edge overlaps the string and the other side, the (straight) edge tracks away from the string.

    Now I guess it’s a matter of getting a press rigged up to correct the lean.

    At least I know what is next on my list of projects.

    Thursday AM I undergo shoulder surgery, so it will be quite a while before I draw the bow back again, or pick it up for that matter.

    I assume the limbs have just “settled” in which is the cause of the lean. I actually watched the guy checking idler lean with a straight edge when he installed them, so I know they must have shifted some.

    Am I assuming correctly that idler lean will cause erratic arrow flight? Or at least inconsistent flight? Today it was grouping real well, at 20yds at least, which was as far as I was testing it.[/quote:1ujrinlj]

    :shock: :^O …well thats another way :p

    Its simply the strings settling ..as string settle Idler lean is effected…and yes it can make a huge differance in shooting with some shooters and bows…and cause a de-rail of string even for some that are way off , combined with a little hand torque…

    :D
    Neil

    December 4, 2012 at 12:25 am #541440 Back to Top REPORT

    handirifle

    Joined: 7/6/2011
    None of the strings were changed, do you still think it was the strings? Doesn’t really matter I spose, needs to be fixed either way.

    Thanks

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