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  • June 17, 2013 at 7:55 pm #581425 Back to Top REPORT
    caswell80
    caswell80

    Joined: 2/13/2008
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    You, and many others like you, are missed sorely, Neil. I can’t speak to the impact that the forum change has on the sales of Mathews products, but it is a bummer that things have tanked so badly here. I think things have picked up slightly over the past few weeks, but even so, the place is only a shell of what it was before the change. Without question the site has taken a huge hit with the redesign. I think this fall will reveal if the wound is fatal.

    x2

    June 18, 2013 at 9:03 pm #581513 Back to Top REPORT
    bm2
    bm2

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    Neil glad to hear from ya. At least we know the great Canuck is still alive.
    June 21, 2013 at 3:58 pm #581696 Back to Top REPORT
    myz71
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    Joined: 6/9/2007
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    Wow.  Didn’t know people bought bows based on the manufacture’s forum…..
    June 21, 2013 at 4:08 pm #581697 Back to Top REPORT
    statedriller
    statedriller

    Joined: 9/15/2006
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    Wow. Didn’t know people bought bows based on the manufacture’s forum…..

    Welcome to the real world…

    The end is near....
    June 21, 2013 at 4:10 pm #581698 Back to Top REPORT
    sticks
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    Joined: 2/5/2005
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    Wow. Didn’t know people bought bows based on the manufacture’s forum…..

    Not necessarily based on the forum but it is an incredible tool for marketing and support. If people come to a forum to read reviews,info and news it increases the chance they may at least go check out a bow. However if the forum isn’t one (like this one is proving to be) that people don’t want to visit due to design and feel and has little traffic on it then you aren’t going to get the increased traffic that has the potential to bring more sales.

    How are you living your Dash?
    June 21, 2013 at 4:25 pm #581699 Back to Top REPORT
    bow-drawn
    Bow Drawn

    Joined: 11/14/2007
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    Wow. Didn’t know people bought bows based on the manufacture’s forum…..

    Not necessarily based on the forum but it is an incredible tool for marketing and support. If people come to a forum to read reviews,info and news it increases the chance they may at least go check out a bow. However if the forum isn’t one (like this one is proving to be) that people don’t want to visit due to design and feel and has little traffic on it then you aren’t going to get the increased traffic that has the potential to bring more sales.

    True true!!!!

    June 21, 2013 at 4:26 pm #581700 Back to Top REPORT
    tominator
    Tominator

    Joined: 9/19/2007

    Wow. Didn’t know people bought bows based on the manufacture’s forum…..

    Most probably don’t, however, as Sticks mentioned above, they can be quiet a marketing tool and a good source for info. As far as how this relates to Mathews, I doubt very seriously sales have dropped due to someone’s issue with this new forum. Too me, they are independent. While I do enjoy being a member on the forum (and have been for a long time), my main concern is archery and hunting, and so far, Mathew’s bow’s have not let me down. Also, one has to remember that what a “dealer” sells the most tends to be the things that they promote the most.

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by tominator Tominator.
    June 21, 2013 at 5:02 pm #581703 Back to Top REPORT
    statedriller
    statedriller

    Joined: 9/15/2006
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    Wow. Didn’t know people bought bows based on the manufacture’s forum…..

    Most probably don’t, however, as Sticks mentioned above, they can be quiet a marketing tool and a good source for info. As far as how this relates to Mathews, I doubt very seriously sales have dropped due to someone’s issue with this new forum. Too me, they areindependent. While I do enjoy being a member on the forum (and have been for a long time), my main concern is archery and hunting, and so far, Mathew’s bow’s have not let me down. Also, one has to remember that what a “dealer” sells the most tends to be the things that they promote the most.

    • This reply was modified 27 minutes ago by statedrillerTominator.

    But without the forum, you have very few fanboys.  And they are a core recruitment group for new buyers.  This forum was the greatest marketing tool Mathews had.  Bar none.  And they flushed it.  And it will reflect in their sales.  Crappy forums don’t sell bows near as well as a high traffic popular forums.

    The end is near....
    June 21, 2013 at 5:21 pm #581707 Back to Top REPORT
    myz71
    myz71

    Joined: 6/9/2007
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    any guess on the percentage of owners who use the forum?  Come contest time there are 40 teams 7-8 per team.  Some never come back.  There are always people on my team I’ve never seen post.  What do think the number of active people were?  And then how many bows does Mathews sell each year?  I’d guess the percentage of people using the forum is pretty small.

    Don’t really watch hunting shows either but seems to me most hosts shoot Mathews more than the others combined?  Doesn’t Mathews continue to dominate tournaments b/c they sponsor all the best shooters?  Mathews marketing has always flooded the market with advertising and sponsorship.  I doubt this forum will have a major impact on sales.  

    Agreed shops sell what they push. Years ago I went to buy an x-force.  Came home with a drenalin b/c shop pushes Mathews.

    I was really looking forward to buying a new bow this year. Hadn’t bought one since reezen. But the flagship bow was split limbs and I wasn’t interested so I bought 2 used Mathews off eBay instead. If sales are down my guess is b/c they keep moving away from solid limb SOLOCAM that is synonymous with Mathews.

    June 21, 2013 at 5:29 pm #581708 Back to Top REPORT
    tominator
    Tominator

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    Wow. Didn’t know people bought bows based on the manufacture’s forum…..

    Most probably don’t, however, as Sticks mentioned above, they can be quiet a marketing tool and a good source for info. As far as how this relates to Mathews, I doubt very seriously sales have dropped due to someone’s issue with this new forum. Too me, they areindependent. While I do enjoy being a member on the forum (and have been for a long time), my main concern is archery and hunting, and so far, Mathew’s bow’s have not let me down. Also, one has to remember that what a “dealer” sells the most tends to be the things that they promote the most.

    • This reply was modified 27 minutes ago by statedrillerTominator.

    But without the forum, you have very few fanboys. And they are a core recruitment group for new buyers. This forum was the greatest marketing tool Mathews had. Bar none. And they flushed it. And it will reflect in their sales. Crappy forums don’t sell bows near as well as a high traffic popular forums.

    Well I guess I’m just been lucky cause I have not had any issues with the forum and certainly don’t consider it a “flush” or “crappy”. As mentioned, I can see where a forum can be a marketing benefit, however, I would not see Mathew’s shutting it’s door if this forum went away completely. Remember, bows are sold at the dealer level and the fact  Mathew’s doesn’t allow internet sales leads me too believe that the lost of the forum would have a minimal impact on bow sales.  If I recall, Mathews was doing pretty well in the late 90’s long before this forum was even created.

    June 22, 2013 at 3:57 am #581735 Back to Top REPORT
    iowaswitchback
    IowaSwitchback

    Joined: 11/26/2005
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    any guess on the percentage of owners who use the forum? Come contest time there are 40 teams 7-8 per team. Some never come back. There are always people on my team I’ve never seen post. What do think the number of active people were? And then how many bows does Mathews sell each year? I’d guess the percentage of people using the forum is pretty small.

    If the forum”web site” still this slow come hunting season don’t know if I’ll be on any team this year…

    June 22, 2013 at 7:08 am #581743 Back to Top REPORT
    statedriller
    statedriller

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    Wow. Didn’t know people bought bows based on the manufacture’s forum…..

    Most probably don’t, however, as Sticks mentioned above, they can be quiet a marketing tool and a good source for info. As far as how this relates to Mathews, I doubt very seriously sales have dropped due to someone’s issue with this new forum. Too me, they areindependent. While I do enjoy being a member on the forum (and have been for a long time), my main concern is archery and hunting, and so far, Mathew’s bow’s have not let me down. Also, one has to remember that what a “dealer” sells the most tends to be the things that they promote the most.

    • This reply was modified 27 minutes ago by statedrillerTominator.

    But without the forum, you have very few fanboys. And they are a core recruitment group for new buyers. This forum was the greatest marketing tool Mathews had. Bar none. And they flushed it. And it will reflect in their sales. Crappy forums don’t sell bows near as well as a high traffic popular forums.

    Well I guess I’m just been lucky cause I have not had any issues with the forum and certainly don’t consider it a “flush” or “crappy”. As mentioned, I can see where a forum can be a marketing benefit, however, I would not see Mathew’s shutting it’s door if this forum went away completely. Remember, bows are sold at the dealer level andthe fact Mathew’s doesn’t allow internet sales leads me too believe that the lost of the forum would have a minimal impact on bow sales. If I recall, Mathews was doing pretty well in the late 90′s long before this forum was even created.

    Nobody said Mathews was going to go out of business because of the forum.{#emotions_dlg.mathews_rolling_eyes}  And bows aren’t just sold at the dealer level, they are “sold” over the internet through word of mouth advertising.  People go on line and read what others are saying about the bows.  How many “which bow should I buy?” threads did there use to be?  A ton…  How much did Mathews grow after release of the Forum?  And say this new forum move costs them 5%…  That is a fair amount on multimillion sales.  This was a bad business move on their part, I think there is no denying that…  And I would trust what Neil is saying since he is a dealer and seeing this first hand…{#emotions_dlg.mathews_peace}

    The end is near....
    June 22, 2013 at 10:19 am #581752 Back to Top REPORT
    gjarcher
    gjarcher

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    Joined: 10/3/2006
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    Hey, Neil … was that your house I saw floating by on TV {#emotions_dlg.mathews_worried} Flooding in Alberta looks terrible, hope you are safe and on high ground. {#emotions_dlg.mathews_praying}
    June 23, 2013 at 7:21 am #581817 Back to Top REPORT
    tominator
    Tominator

    Joined: 9/19/2007

    Wow. Didn’t know people bought bows based on the manufacture’s forum…..

    Most probably don’t, however, as Sticks mentioned above, they can be quiet a marketing tool and a good source for info. As far as how this relates to Mathews, I doubt very seriously sales have dropped due to someone’s issue with this new forum. Too me, they areindependent. While I do enjoy being a member on the forum (and have been for a long time), my main concern is archery and hunting, and so far, Mathew’s bow’s have not let me down. Also, one has to remember that what a “dealer” sells the most tends to be the things that they promote the most.

    • This reply was modified 27 minutes ago by statedrillerTominator.

    But without the forum, you have very few fanboys. And they are a core recruitment group for new buyers. This forum was the greatest marketing tool Mathews had. Bar none. And they flushed it. And it will reflect in their sales. Crappy forums don’t sell bows near as well as a high traffic popular forums.

    Well I guess I’m just been lucky cause I have not had any issues with the forum and certainly don’t consider it a “flush” or “crappy”. As mentioned, I can see where a forum can be a marketing benefit, however, I would not see Mathew’s shutting it’s door if this forum went away completely. Remember, bows are sold at the dealer level andthe fact Mathew’s doesn’t allow internet sales leads me too believe that the lost of the forum would have a minimal impact on bow sales. If I recall, Mathews was doing pretty well in the late 90′s long before this forum was even created.

    Nobody said Mathews was going to go out of business because of the forum.{#emotions_dlg.mathews_rolling_eyes} And bows aren’t just sold at the dealer level, they are “sold” over the internet through word of mouth advertising. People go on line and read what others are saying about the bows. How many “which bow should I buy?” threads did there use to be? A ton… How much did Mathews grow after release of the Forum? And say this new forum move costs them 5%… That is a fair amount on multimillion sales. This was a bad business move on their part, I think there is no denying that… And I would trust what Neil is saying since he is a dealer and seeing this first hand…{#emotions_dlg.mathews_peace}

    While I see your points, it’s still just personal speculation unless you can back it up with actual Mathew’s sales data. As far as the forum…while it’s clear that you have issues with it, maybe most do not? True, there’s been allot of old members state that they do not like it and have decided to go esle where – still doesn’t mean that they have quit shooting a Mathews or do not  continue to buy Mathew’s products.  I have also seen an influx of many,many new members, or atleast seem to be new judging by the names in new posts which could mean just the opposite has happened – more forum members, and bow sales are up?

    June 23, 2013 at 9:42 am #581825 Back to Top REPORT
    statedriller
    statedriller

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    While I seeyour points, it’s still just personal speculation unless you can back it up with actual Mathew’s sales data. As far as the forum…while it’s clear that you have issues with it, maybe most do not? True, there’s been allot of old members state that they do not like it and have decided to go esle where – still doesn’t mean that they have quit shooting a Mathewsor do not continue to buy Mathew’s products. I have also seen an influx of many,many new members, oratleast seem to be new judging by the namesin new posts which could mean just the opposite has happened – more forum members, and bow sales are up?

    Seriously?

    I mean, this place is just the happenin hub of archery excitement isn’t it?

    Did you not read Neil’s original post about sales there?  He is a Mathews dealer right?

    And like I said before, this dead forum won’t kill Mathews, they make too good of  a product.  It will hurt them a little though.  And it just sets a bad example of how not to treat customers.  And that’s what each of us forum members are, aren’t we?

    The end is near....
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