Jimmy Houston Bellar Deer Ranch Hunt

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  • July 7, 2009 at 5:13 pm #526268 Back to Top REPORT
    vince71969
    vince71969


    Joined: 7/5/2004
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    Life’s too precious and too short to worry about such things. [=}=]

    I agree with you, Mark, but I also think that our sport is too important to completely forget such things. [=}=][/quote:3mr7atuv]

    I agree with both [=}=]

    July 8, 2009 at 6:31 am #526269 Back to Top REPORT
    illinoisarcher
    IllinoisArcher

    Joined: 3/19/2009
    Well I found a pic of the deer he shot in the pen and dragged out into the field for a photo. Here it is.

    July 9, 2009 at 5:01 pm #526270 Back to Top REPORT
    dxtim
    DXTim

    Joined: 12/29/2008
    I for one do not hold our celebrities in high regard. They are just men like you and me. Some are gentlemen with high ethics, some are arrogant and egotistical with less regard for ethics and honor.

    I came across this quote by Bernard M. Baruch years ago:

    “I have learned the truth of the observation that the more one approaches great men, the more one finds that they are men.”

    I definitely would not classify “celebrities” as great men but it seems to apply to all. ;)

    These so called celebrities in the hunting business do have an obligation to hold themselves to the highest of standards for the sake of all of us fellow outdoor enthusiasts! [=}=]

    July 10, 2009 at 1:24 am #526271 Back to Top REPORT
    rehwald67
    rehwald67

    Joined: 5/22/2009
    Ok were gonna bash Jimmy Houston ok he has it coming but does anyone remeber the guy from ohio that was putting deer on a chain and a post to let people to come kill them?
    July 10, 2009 at 1:58 am #526272 Back to Top REPORT
    bad2thebone
    bad2thebone

    Joined: 2/2/2008
    I know of russ bellar he is a big name in the coonhunting world I can promise that his Fenced in area is not as well fenced as most would think. The hound I have now has been in that fenced in area coonhunting and he got out and was run over. The deer was not drugged like most think either I think it was more of like a steroid to make him have massive body size not to make him stumble in front of a hunter the feds was way wrong on that one. I know the guy that feeds all of russ’s animals except for his hogs and russ’s deer are not drugged and are in a massive area that they can escape from but they stay in the area because of the feed. By the way the fence has been in the same shape since 1983
    July 10, 2009 at 2:12 am #526273 Back to Top REPORT
    pa_mathews_man
    PA_MATHEWS_MAN

    Joined: 2/22/2005
    Don’t care
    July 10, 2009 at 4:19 am #526274 Back to Top REPORT
    indychris
    Indychris

    Joined: 6/22/2004
    I know of russ bellar he is a big name in the coonhunting world I can promise that his Fenced in area is not as well fenced as most would think. The hound I have now has been in that fenced in area coonhunting and he got out and was run over. The deer was not drugged like most think either I think it was more of like a steroid to make him have massive body size not to make him stumble in front of a hunter the feds was way wrong on that one. I know the guy that feeds all of russ’s animals except for his hogs and russ’s deer are not drugged and are in a massive area that they can escape from but they stay in the area because of the feed. By the way the fence has been in the same shape since 1983

    Sorry, but that’s the biggest hogwash I’ve read. We drive by Bellar’s place all the time just off US 24 between Wabash and Peru, and the fence that is visible from Lover’s Lane is clearly a high-fence operation intended to keep his deer in. Bellar was charging thousands of dollars to hunt his captive deer. Furthermore he published videos of potential deer that were cataloged by number offering people specific deer to hunt.

    Bellar imported valuable deer to his operation, and bread others through insemination. They made every attempt to ensure that their animals did not vacate the premises. To this day, the fence is still in relatively solid condition. It was built to last.

    Several celebrities, including Ronnie Dunn and Jeff Wickersham testified against Bellar. Bellar maintained one large enclosure that encompassed close to 1500 acres, I believe, and at least one smaller enclosure that measured in single digit acreage that was frequently used for hunts.

    There is absolutely NO WAY that these were free-ranging deer. #-o

    Beyond that, Bellar has done his time, and JH and others have had their bad press, too, so other than helping to patrol our own ranks, I couldn’t care less about the history of the operation.

    July 10, 2009 at 5:19 am #526275 Back to Top REPORT
    bojangles
    bojangles

    Joined: 6/9/2008
    Dude,

    I just don’t see how it’s anybody else’s business what people do on their own private property with their own livestock, animals or deer.

    The outrage just shows how communistic we are. Everybody thinks they need to have a say with what their neighbor is doing.

    Just my 2 cents.

    :thumbup

    July 10, 2009 at 2:07 pm #526276 Back to Top REPORT
    indychris
    Indychris

    Joined: 6/22/2004

    Dude,

    I just don’t see how it’s anybody else’s business what people do on their own private property with their own livestock, animals or deer.

    The outrage just shows how communistic we are. Everybody thinks they need to have a say with what their neighbor is doing.

    Just my 2 cents.

    :thumbup[/quote:2ivg3p82]

    Guess that’s the rub. In Indiana, at least, deer are not considered private property. They are subject to the same game laws and seasons as any other deer in the state. Just because they are captured and kept behind a fence doesn’t give special exception to the land owner.

    Now, if we want to talk about Government’s overreach into personal affairs, then I’m all over that one, but as it were, Bellar was openly and blatantly violating and provoking the DNR in our state, and because of that, he was a blight on the hunting community. It made major news around, and non-hunters were all over the story. It is already getting difficult to find non-hunting landowners willing to let us use their land, and these stories did nothing but stir up trouble.

    All you have to do is read the first paragraph of this article to see the gist of what many thought of Bellar’s operation.

    http://www.journalgazette.net/apps/pbcs … /-1/EDIT01

    I’m not even making a declaration on private hunting preserves. My issue is simply that he openly violated state and federal law and thought he was above both.

    [=}=]

    July 10, 2009 at 2:11 pm #526277 Back to Top REPORT
    indychris
    Indychris

    Joined: 6/22/2004
    Guys-

    Ricky sent me a message this morning that a link to a video I had posted contained inappropriate content. Yo have to know me to know how embarrassed I am for not checking that out. I apologize to anyone who caught that. It was an old video that I had seen on here before, and I obviously didn’t check it out enough before posting the link. :oops:

    July 10, 2009 at 2:19 pm #526278 Back to Top REPORT
    neo
    neo

    Joined: 2/26/2006

    Forgiven = YES
    Forgotten = NO

    Everyone makes mistakes and he deserves to be forgiven also.

    To each his own.[/quote:3neyafun]

    My thoughts exactly. :thumbup

    July 10, 2009 at 8:22 pm #526279 Back to Top REPORT
    bad2thebone
    bad2thebone

    Joined: 2/2/2008

    I know of russ bellar he is a big name in the coonhunting world I can promise that his Fenced in area is not as well fenced as most would think. The hound I have now has been in that fenced in area coonhunting and he got out and was run over. The deer was not drugged like most think either I think it was more of like a steroid to make him have massive body size not to make him stumble in front of a hunter the feds was way wrong on that one. I know the guy that feeds all of russ’s animals except for his hogs and russ’s deer are not drugged and are in a massive area that they can escape from but they stay in the area because of the feed. By the way the fence has been in the same shape since 1983

    Sorry, but that’s the biggest hogwash I’ve read. We drive by Bellar’s place all the time just off US 24 between Wabash and Peru, and the fence that is visible from Lover’s Lane is clearly a high-fence operation intended to keep his deer in. Bellar was charging thousands of dollars to hunt his captive deer. Furthermore he published videos of potential deer that were cataloged by number offering people specific deer to hunt.

    Bellar imported valuable deer to his operation, and bread others through insemination. They made every attempt to ensure that their animals did not vacate the premises. To this day, the fence is still in relatively solid condition. It was built to last.

    Several celebrities, including Ronnie Dunn and Jeff Wickersham testified against Bellar. Bellar maintained one large enclosure that encompassed close to 1500 acres, I believe, and at least one smaller enclosure that measured in single digit acreage that was frequently used for hunts.

    There is absolutely NO WAY that these were free-ranging deer. #-o

    Beyond that, Bellar has done his time, and JH and others have had their bad press, too, so other than helping to patrol our own ranks, I couldn’t care less about the history of the operation.[/quote:948or0f7]

    You seem to know alot more about it than I do! All I know is what Ive heard and seen pictures of. I do know several guys that coonhunt his place and they have all told me that there is plenty of holes in his fence(not saying we are talking about the same fence) but I have only heard of one other and that is the fence around his hog barn( the single digit acerage fence) that I promise no deer have been in. I really cant understand how he didnt get in trouble from jump street because there is government people at his place 24-7 365 keeping check on his hog operation so it would seem to me that with all that illegal stuff going on one of the government people would have said something sooner. But again all I know is what I HAVE HEARD AND SEEN PICTURES OF! I may be way off base but I do know that the people that is there alot has never lied to me and I dont think they ever will.

    July 10, 2009 at 8:54 pm #526280 Back to Top REPORT
    indychris
    Indychris

    Joined: 6/22/2004

    I know of russ bellar he is a big name in the coonhunting world I can promise that his Fenced in area is not as well fenced as most would think. The hound I have now has been in that fenced in area coonhunting and he got out and was run over. The deer was not drugged like most think either I think it was more of like a steroid to make him have massive body size not to make him stumble in front of a hunter the feds was way wrong on that one. I know the guy that feeds all of russ’s animals except for his hogs and russ’s deer are not drugged and are in a massive area that they can escape from but they stay in the area because of the feed. By the way the fence has been in the same shape since 1983

    Sorry, but that’s the biggest hogwash I’ve read. We drive by Bellar’s place all the time just off US 24 between Wabash and Peru, and the fence that is visible from Lover’s Lane is clearly a high-fence operation intended to keep his deer in. Bellar was charging thousands of dollars to hunt his captive deer. Furthermore he published videos of potential deer that were cataloged by number offering people specific deer to hunt.

    Bellar imported valuable deer to his operation, and bread others through insemination. They made every attempt to ensure that their animals did not vacate the premises. To this day, the fence is still in relatively solid condition. It was built to last.

    Several celebrities, including Ronnie Dunn and Jeff Wickersham testified against Bellar. Bellar maintained one large enclosure that encompassed close to 1500 acres, I believe, and at least one smaller enclosure that measured in single digit acreage that was frequently used for hunts.

    There is absolutely NO WAY that these were free-ranging deer. #-o

    Beyond that, Bellar has done his time, and JH and others have had their bad press, too, so other than helping to patrol our own ranks, I couldn’t care less about the history of the operation.[/quote:191iavgw]

    You seem to know alot more about it than I do! All I know is what Ive heard and seen pictures of. I do know several guys that coonhunt his place and they have all told me that there is plenty of holes in his fence(not saying we are talking about the same fence) but I have only heard of one other and that is the fence around his hog barn( the single digit acerage fence) that I promise no deer have been in. I really cant understand how he didnt get in trouble from jump street because there is government people at his place 24-7 365 keeping check on his hog operation so it would seem to me that with all that illegal stuff going on one of the government people would have said something sooner. But again all I know is what I HAVE HEARD AND SEEN PICTURES OF! I may be way off base but I do know that the people that is there alot has never lied to me and I dont think they ever will.[/quote:191iavgw]

    Maybe this is the confusion. Any feds or state officials that would be there would likely have only been there after his arrest/conviction. That took place several years ago. From what I’ve seen, there’s very, little if anything, going on at his place currently. All of the pens where we used to see deer daily appear empty. I believe he was forced to sell/disperse his herd.

    If there are hog hunts taking place there now, that’s news to me. As for coon hunters, I don’t know, but I’m pretty certain that at the time there would have been no coon hunting in the areas where the prize deer and exotics were kept.

    I’m in no way an expert, but we did track the proceedings that led up to his arrest and trial, and those that immediately followed. Haven’t actually thought about it much the last few years until this thread appeared.

    [=}=]

    July 11, 2009 at 9:33 am #526281 Back to Top REPORT
    lx-solocam
    LX-Solocam

    Joined: 2/4/2009
    i just found out that this bellar guy is from my hometown of Gainesboro, TN :-S :-S [-( #-o #-o :-S [-X
    July 11, 2009 at 1:34 pm #526282 Back to Top REPORT
    mikesmith
    MikeSmith

    Age: 64
    Joined: 1/5/2008
    Location: Republic of Texas

    Dude,

    I just don’t see how it’s anybody else’s business what people do on their own private property with their own livestock, animals or deer.

    The outrage just shows how communistic we are. Everybody thinks they need to have a say with what their neighbor is doing.

    Just my 2 cents.

    :thumbup[/quote:273b833h]

    I disagree. It may not be any of our government’s business, as long as the activity is legal {think smoking restrictions}, but I have a right to voice my opinion.

    If my neighbor is doing something I consider to be unethical {even if it is legal}, I have a 1st amendment right to open my mouth or fire up the keyboard and ridicule them. If I’m slandering them, they can sue me.

    If I can shame them into doing what is ethical, I’ve made our Nation a better place.

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