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  • January 9, 2013 at 7:54 pm #497546 Back to Top REPORT

    BackAtIT

    Joined: 1/31/2008
    After replacing the string and cable on my DLD a few days ago (about 150 shots to let it settle) I am in the fine tunning process. My question is about which way the idler wheel should be “leaning” at rest. I currently have the yolk set so that when at rest, the idler is leaning top to bottom left to right . This gives results with the idler straight up and down and inline with the string at full draw.

    From what I have read however, the idler should be leaning from top to bottom right to left / . So what is correct? Idler leaning or / when at rest? Or is dependent on bow model, shooter, etc…

    January 9, 2013 at 8:02 pm #546658 Back to Top REPORT
    maarcher
    MAARCHER

    Age: 41
    Joined: 10/3/2008
    Location: MA
    That is a great question. My Z7 Mag is set so that the Idler is straight up and down in the static position. I was told that it should be straight up and down. Lets get the answers.
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    January 9, 2013 at 8:50 pm #546659 Back to Top REPORT
    l-o-s-t-arrow
    L.O.S.T.Arrow

    Joined: 5/16/2006
    Location: Alberta
    :D Easy… When bow is at rest…the Roller/Cable guard will pull idler so top leans bows left and bottom bows right…

    Neil

    January 9, 2013 at 9:04 pm #546660 Back to Top REPORT
    maarcher
    MAARCHER

    Age: 41
    Joined: 10/3/2008
    Location: MA
    how much left to right. looks like I’ll be making adjustments tonight.
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    January 9, 2013 at 9:44 pm #546661 Back to Top REPORT
    l-o-s-t-arrow
    L.O.S.T.Arrow

    Joined: 5/16/2006
    Location: Alberta
    how much left to right. looks like I’ll be making adjustments tonight.

    :D That doesnt matter..what does matter is when you are at full draw anchored and good form…have someone look at the lean the idler and string should run straight at full draw…

    drawing and trying to look yourself can cause torque and give you a false reading…

    This may help..

    http://forums.mathewsinc.com/archery-4/ … ed-178335/

    Neil

    January 9, 2013 at 9:59 pm #546662 Back to Top REPORT
    maarcher
    MAARCHER

    Age: 41
    Joined: 10/3/2008
    Location: MA
    Thanks. I really appreciate the info.
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    January 10, 2013 at 7:53 pm #546663 Back to Top REPORT
    vince71969
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    The idler will rotate slightly counterclockwise when drawn (when looking from behind).
    January 10, 2013 at 8:50 pm #546664 Back to Top REPORT
    hoosier-hunter
    Hoosier Hunter

    Joined: 10/30/2008
    Had same problem with my DLD . Took it to the shop and the Tech called Mathews. They told him that they have had problems with idler lean on the that bow. They sent me a new set of limbs and everything has been good since.
    I have owned 2 Mathews and both had problems. BUT…………… Mathews was very quick to take care of me. [=}=]
    January 10, 2013 at 10:58 pm #546665 Back to Top REPORT
    vince71969
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    Had same problem with my DLD . Took it to the shop and the Tech called Mathews. They told him that they have had problems with idler lean on the that bow. They sent me a new set of limbs and everything has been good since.
    I have owned 2 Mathews and both had problems. BUT…………… Mathews was very quick to take care of me. [=}=][/quote:1a4qqfbc]

    That doesn’t even make sense. I’m sure your dealer told you that, and Mathews will send out parts in the name of servicing its dealers but the idler lean on that bow, or any solid limb model is set from proper installation of the cable and its harness adjustment.

    They probably told him something to the tune of “install these limbs with 3 more twists to the right side of the harness than the left”, and all of the sudden the new limbs were so much better than the ones being replaced.

    January 11, 2013 at 1:25 am #546666 Back to Top REPORT

    BackAtIT

    Joined: 1/31/2008
    Vince,

    Thanks for the response. From your response, and what I read in your tuning guide, it looks like I have my idler lean set the opposite of what it should be.

    I currently have it set like this

    What you are saying is when drawn, the counter clockwise rotation would add even more lean. It should be set like this / with the counter clockwise rotation pulling it straight inline with the string at full draw like this | ?

    This could finally explain my erratic walkback tuning sessions.

    January 11, 2013 at 2:00 am #546667 Back to Top REPORT
    vince71969
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    Vince,

    Thanks for the response. From your response, and what I read in your tuning guide, it looks like I have my idler lean set the opposite of what it should be.

    I currently have it set like this

    What you are saying is when drawn, the counter clockwise rotation would add even more lean. It should be set like this / with the counter clockwise rotation pulling it straight inline with the string at full draw like this | ?

    This could finally explain my erratic walkback tuning sessions.[/quote:3elrq5f2]

    Yes, it’s backwards, but no you shouldn’t be experiencing erratic walkback tuning sessions. Either you’re rushing, having a bad day shooting, etc or possibly some fletching contact somewhere. I say this because even a bow that isn’t tuned properly will still do the same thing time after time (unless the contact).

    Instead of making this a larger project than this has to be, I would suggest just switching the harness ends from the left to the right posts, and vice versa.

    PM me with any questions [=}=]

    January 12, 2013 at 12:40 pm #546668 Back to Top REPORT
    hoosier-hunter
    Hoosier Hunter

    Joined: 10/30/2008

    Had same problem with my DLD . Took it to the shop and the Tech called Mathews. They told him that they have had problems with idler lean on the that bow. They sent me a new set of limbs and everything has been good since.
    I have owned 2 Mathews and both had problems. BUT…………… Mathews was very quick to take care of me. [=}=][/quote:1q37zwfs]

    That doesn’t even make sense. I’m sure your dealer told you that, and Mathews will send out parts in the name of servicing its dealers but the idler lean on that bow, or any solid limb model is set from proper installation of the cable and its harness adjustment.

    They probably told him something to the tune of “install these limbs with 3 more twists to the right side of the harness than the left”, and all of the sudden the new limbs were so much better than the ones being replaced.[/quote:1q37zwfs]

    You could be 100% correct ! All I know is my dealer told me that Mathews has had problems with that bow and now I have a new set of limbs. Now that I think of it, it was CAM lean on my bow and not Idler lean. Maybe that was the reason for the new limbs. I apologize for any confusion .
    [=}=]

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