idler lean on an 05 outback

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  • April 21, 2013 at 6:19 pm #574870 Back to Top REPORT
    hiddendanger
    hiddendanger

    Joined: 12/2/2007
    my string gets caught behind the top limb dampener after every shot. could idler lean be the issue?
    April 21, 2013 at 7:53 pm #574886 Back to Top REPORT
    hiddendanger
    hiddendanger

    Joined: 12/2/2007
    actually i have almost zero lean. i checked my specs ane they are off a bit. 7 7/16 brace and 31 3/4 ata.
    April 22, 2013 at 1:25 am #574922 Back to Top REPORT

    bowbuilder

    Joined: 11/6/2009
    This shouldn’t be happening. At max poundage, Set your bow ATA back to 31.5″, and set your cam rotation parallel with the string (using the two timing holes and a straight edge. Dont’ worry about Brace Height on this bow. Let it go where it goes. (It’ll still be close.)
    After that is done, reset your idler wheel lean. You can do Vince’s new method, but I prefer the old method on this bow…with the arrow against the idler, and a field point installed on the arrow lined up with the nock point. Set the center shot at 13/16″, and nock point about 1/8″ to 3/16″ high (assuming a drop away). Then paper tune for a rough adjustment, then follow up with walkback tuning to fine tune. This is how I set up my Outback, and it shoots great.
    April 22, 2013 at 1:26 am #574923 Back to Top REPORT

    bowbuilder

    Joined: 11/6/2009
    Also, have you installed a riser mounted string stop on this bow? An STS or one of the newer equivalents really makes this bow something special.

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 7 months ago by  bowbuilder.
    April 22, 2013 at 1:35 am #574924 Back to Top REPORT

    bowbuilder

    Joined: 11/6/2009
    Also, check the condition of the rubber in your upper string stop. It might be time for a replacement.
    April 22, 2013 at 8:42 pm #575062 Back to Top REPORT
    hiddendanger
    hiddendanger

    Joined: 12/2/2007
    yes i have an sts on my bow.  right before hunting season i was practicing from a climber when my bow sounded funny. i looked up and noticed the top rubber was gone. no problem , i ran inside and grabbed a new one. problem solved until yesterday.
    sometime last summer the proshop broke my cam and cut my string. they replaced the cam and said they replaced the string and cable but they didn’t. once i get my bow tuned for hunting season i don’t really shoot it much until the end of turkey season. i shoot more during the offseason than i do during hunting season so i’m just now putting 100 or so shots through it since the mishap.
    April 23, 2013 at 4:28 am #575109 Back to Top REPORT

    bowbuilder

    Joined: 11/6/2009
    If they cut your string, they had to have replaced it. As you say you haven’t shot much since the “accident”, it might just be that the string has settled some and the bow needs retuned. Or it could be that the bow was not tuned properly after the string reinstallation, or a low quality string was used and you are seeing stretch from that. But most likely it is just normal settling, especially since you are just getting to 100 shots or so.

    Try retuning back to specs first, then see if you have any more issues.

    April 23, 2013 at 8:28 am #575120 Back to Top REPORT
    hiddendanger
    hiddendanger

    Joined: 12/2/2007

    If they cut your string, they had to have replaced it. As you say you haven’t shot much since the “accident”, it might just be that the string has settled some and the bow needs retuned. Or it could be that the bow was not tuned properly after the string reinstallation, or a low quality string was used and you are seeing stretch from that. But most likely it is just normal settling, especially since you are just getting to 100 shots or so. 

    Try retuning back to specs first, then see if you have any more issues.

    thanks for the help.
    no , they didn’t replace it. it still had the d-loop i tied on the string and where the string connects to the cam post is all fuzzy and roughed up to the point i can see the string material.

    i dropped it off because the peep sight wasn’t opening. i left it there for a week. when i went to pick it up i got interested in the tech’s new mr8 while he ran it through the chrono. when he shot it the first time i noticed it sounded strange. i continued to check out his rig as he shot another arrow and then said “that’s weird , your string is cut”.  he then proceeded to put it in the ez press and started stripping of the serving. i walked over and noticed a chunk missing out of the cam.. i honestly had to walk away for a moment. about the time i gained my composure he repied that mathews was going to warranty the cam and that nathan brooks was sending me a new string and cable. he said it would be about a week or two until i could get it back. it took over a month and a haf.back

    April 23, 2013 at 8:33 am #575121 Back to Top REPORT
    hiddendanger
    hiddendanger

    Joined: 12/2/2007
    i now have mail my bow off to have work done requiring a press as it will not passthrough their doorway ever again. they don’t even adjust the fingers on the press for the limb dampeners so the bow gets twisted everytime they press it.
    April 23, 2013 at 7:18 pm #575232 Back to Top REPORT

    bowbuilder

    Joined: 11/6/2009
    Ugh, Yeah, I’d definately steer clear of that shop. Sounds like it is time to invest in a press of your own. It will pay for itself over time, and save you some frustration. The EZ Green is hard to beat for $399 shipped from SouthShoreArchery. If you want a do everything press, get a Bow-A-Constrictor (more expensive though). If space is an issue, a Bow Time Machine would work great. There are lots of presses out there.

    Getting a press will save you money in the long run (how much does it cost to ship a bow?), save you time, and ensure the work gets done as you want. Plus you don’t have to worry about shipping accidents.

    The only time I take my bow to a shop anymore is for warrenty work. Other than that, I do everything else. It isn’t difficult, and there is plenty of help online on how to do something.

    As for sending a bow out to someone…I’ll never do that again. I once sent a bow off to a supposed “super-tuner” (not a Mathews bow). It came back with nothing at all done to it. No super tune, not even in tune. At least he didn’t break it. Hopefully you have better results than I did. Again, there is great peace of mind in the ability to do your own bow work.

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