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  • September 16, 2008 at 12:15 am #521686 Back to Top REPORT
    machinegun74
    machinegun74

    Joined: 7/26/2005

    … I find a 70lb bow with a 350-400 grain arrow bouncing off an animal outright laughable. [=}=]

    Actually, its a 430 grain, 14.7% FOC arrow 271 fps shot at under 20 yds with a 125 grain Saunders blunt, and it does bounce off without breaking the hide. Quite often, Bessie just looks at you like, “What did you do that for?”, sometimes it takes two shots into her to get her to leave camp.

    Give it a try, its a real education in KE, Conservation Of Momentum, etc. ;)[/quote:cddxhjtn]

    I’m afraid I would have to see that to believe it. Not calling you a liar at all Brian. You are one of the most intelligent people I know, but I just don’t see it. I’ve shot through animals shoulder blades, ribs and deep into the ground with expandable broad heads and a 370 grain arrow at 30 yards. I just have a hard time believing Bessie would just look at me when an arrow smacks her in the rump with 70 lbs of KE [=}=][/quote:cddxhjtn]

    Actually its very probable. It really depends on how stubborn the cow is, we have some that you have to hit in the butt with the pickup to get them to move out of the way. Luckily we dont kill with blunt force trauma or there’d be a lot more unrecovered deer regardless the arrow weight.

    September 16, 2008 at 12:40 am #521687 Back to Top REPORT
    blood-bath2006
    Blood Bath2006

    Joined: 10/14/2006

    … I find a 70lb bow with a 350-400 grain arrow bouncing off an animal outright laughable. [=}=]

    Actually, its a 430 grain, 14.7% FOC arrow 271 fps shot at under 20 yds with a 125 grain Saunders blunt, and it does bounce off without breaking the hide. Quite often, Bessie just looks at you like, “What did you do that for?”, sometimes it takes two shots into her to get her to leave camp.

    Give it a try, its a real education in KE, Conservation Of Momentum, etc. ;)[/quote:3gwixhpt]

    I’m afraid I would have to see that to believe it. Not calling you a liar at all Brian. You are one of the most intelligent people I know, but I just don’t see it. I’ve shot through animals shoulder blades, ribs and deep into the ground with expandable broad heads and a 370 grain arrow at 30 yards. I just have a hard time believing Bessie would just look at me when an arrow smacks her in the rump with 70 lbs of KE [=}=][/quote:3gwixhpt]

    Actually its very probable. It really depends on how stubborn the cow is, we have some that you have to hit in the butt with the pickup to get them to move out of the way. Luckily we dont kill with blunt force trauma or there’d be a lot more unrecovered deer regardless the arrow weight.[/quote:3gwixhpt]

    I would have to see it. We used to use canes on them and they would run with a smack on the rear. Granted they weren’t stubborn hard headed cows that would just look at you when you hit them with a hot shot, but we are talking a very concentrated strike with a lot of pressure in one spot.

    September 16, 2008 at 12:45 am #521688 Back to Top REPORT
    pacritter
    PaCritter

    Joined: 8/14/2005
    It’s nice to be fast but what good is speed without consistent[/size:2ph0zik5] accuracy?
    September 16, 2008 at 12:49 am #521689 Back to Top REPORT
    blood-bath2006
    Blood Bath2006

    Joined: 10/14/2006

    It’s nice to be fast but what good is speed without consistent accuracy?[/quote:3tsh589x]

    So fast can’t be consistent? Come on now. This isn’t the days of the 4″ brace height bows with a 3″ over draw just barely getting 300 fps. My DLD shoots a 370 grain arrow 310 fps and it is not only accurate, but very consistent. Speed doesn’t make you more or less accurate or consistent. The nut behind the bow determines that [=}=]

    September 16, 2008 at 1:01 am #521690 Back to Top REPORT
    buffalocounty_32
    BuffaloCounty_32

    Joined: 9/3/2004
    I am still shooting my legacy..sooo….nope :^O :thumbup
    September 16, 2008 at 1:08 am #521691 Back to Top REPORT
    redman12143
    redman12143

    Joined: 7/5/2008
    Location: ny
    when I was shooting the lighter arrows they seemed more accurate ..but maybe it was because they wer going so much faster. I know when i was shooting a 350 grain arrow compared to a 418 grain arrow i could tell a big differance in the 2…`just my 2 cents …ive learned its not about speed its about accuracy :thumbup
    September 16, 2008 at 12:32 pm #521692 Back to Top REPORT
    bm2
    bm2

    Age: 35
    Joined: 8/19/2004

    I won’t lie, I do. I don’t care if I get 300 fps (which is easy with my specs) but I do want to stay at or above 280 fps. I am actually in the process of adding 36 grains to my arrow which will give me a 442 grain arrow moving @ 283 fps [=}=]

    Lightweight :p[/quote:t3ms1pwu]

    Ain’t that the truth? #-o

    Like I said though, that 617 grain monster you put together has me seriously eyeing a Black Max 2. I’d absolutely LOVE to shoot a log like that at 280 fps and produce 100 lb. of KE lol :X :X :X :X[/quote:t3ms1pwu]

    i am deffinately thinking of trying it. i would like to find one shaft that heave to experiment with. :-B :whistle :whistle

    September 17, 2008 at 2:38 am #521693 Back to Top REPORT
    bow4life
    bow4life


    Joined: 8/17/2004
    How many respondents of this thread have ever hunted with arrows heavier than 500 grains? How many people realize that misjudging the range by a few yards inside of 40 yards or so wouldn’t be vastly different with a 500 grain arrow as compared to a 350 grain arrow? [=}=]
    September 17, 2008 at 2:41 am #521694 Back to Top REPORT
    andy7yo
    andy7yo

    Joined: 2/18/2005
    How many respondents of this thread have ever hunted with arrows heavier than 500 grains? How many people realize that misjudging the range by a few yards inside of 40 yards or so wouldn’t be vastly different with a 500 grain arrow as compared to a 350 grain arrow? [=}=]

    Have not hunted with them, but in the yard on the bag inside of 30 yards they are practically touching.

    September 17, 2008 at 3:14 am #521695 Back to Top REPORT
    jon-e-law
    Jon-E-Law

    Joined: 2/20/2005
    How many respondents of this thread have ever hunted with arrows heavier than 500 grains? How many people realize that misjudging the range by a few yards inside of 40 yards or so wouldn’t be vastly different with a 500 grain arrow as compared to a 350 grain arrow? [=}=]

    OOOOOOOHH…….OOOOOOOOOOOHH !!

    September 17, 2008 at 6:46 am #521696 Back to Top REPORT
    gjarcher
    gjarcher

    Age: 71
    Joined: 10/3/2006
    Location: Colorado
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    How many respondents of this thread have ever hunted with arrows heavier than 500 grains? How many people realize that misjudging the range by a few yards inside of 40 yards or so wouldn’t be vastly different with a 500 grain arrow as compared to a 350 grain arrow? [=}=]

    When I hunted with XX78 2315s I never had a shaft under 500 grains, 520 was normal. I switched to carbons for hunting just 3 years ago …
    FWIW, This is the ballistic simulation using a 70# 28.5″ Drenalin

    September 18, 2008 at 1:54 am #521697 Back to Top REPORT
    bow4life
    bow4life


    Joined: 8/17/2004

    How many respondents of this thread have ever hunted with arrows heavier than 500 grains? How many people realize that misjudging the range by a few yards inside of 40 yards or so wouldn’t be vastly different with a 500 grain arrow as compared to a 350 grain arrow? [=}=]

    When I hunted with XX78 2315s I never had a shaft under 500 grains, 520 was normal. I switched to carbons for hunting just 3 years ago …
    FWIW, This is the ballistic simulation using a 70# 28.5″ Drenalin
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    Thank You, sir :thumbup

    September 18, 2008 at 5:16 am #521698 Back to Top REPORT
    pa_mathews_man
    PA_MATHEWS_MAN

    Joined: 2/22/2005

    How many respondents of this thread have ever hunted with arrows heavier than 500 grains? How many people realize that misjudging the range by a few yards inside of 40 yards or so wouldn’t be vastly different with a 500 grain arrow as compared to a 350 grain arrow? [=}=]

    When I hunted with XX78 2315s I never had a shaft under 500 grains, 520 was normal. I switched to carbons for hunting just 3 years ago …
    FWIW, This is the ballistic simulation using a 70# 28.5″ Drenalin
    [/quote:198y9fi0]

    Thank You, sir :thumbup[/quote:198y9fi0] ;) :D :thumbup

    September 18, 2008 at 10:15 am #521699 Back to Top REPORT

    tprice

    Joined: 1/19/2008
    I have always been curious as to how fast my bows shoot but never really worried about it.

    I just figure it is like a bullet, as long as it hits where I aim that is all I need to see/know

    September 18, 2008 at 10:23 am #521700 Back to Top REPORT
    vince71969
    vince71969


    Joined: 7/5/2004
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    I’m on both sides of the fence on this one. I like a flatter trajectory but not at the expense of an inferior setup.

    If my bow was set up and shot 299 through a chrono, I wouldn’t change anything to make it shoot 300.

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