How far can I back down the limbs on my creed XS ?

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  • May 7, 2014 at 10:04 pm #628919 Back to Top REPORT

    deerstand

    Age: 36
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    Only had this bow a couple weeks and would like to lower draw weight. What is the max amount of turns when backing out limb bolts on creed XS ? Thanks in advance !
    May 8, 2014 at 5:08 am #628925 Back to Top REPORT
    99fatboy
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    5 full turns out from max poundage gives you 10lbs. less draw weight, which is as low as you can go, safely.
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    May 9, 2014 at 9:32 am #628994 Back to Top REPORT
    statedriller
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    Hey fboy, could you explain the real world results of  limb bolt reduction and measured weight compared to your answer above….

    CreedXs 70lb limbs

    Actual weight bottomed out 69.8
    backed off 1/4 to start
    then backed off 1 full turn total 1.25 turns= 65.08 lbs
    ……………………………………………2.25 turns= 61.5 lbs
    ……………………………………………3.25 turns= 58.2 lbs
    …………………………………………….4.25 turns= 55.2 lbs
    ……………………………………………. 5.25 turns= 51.8lbs

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    May 9, 2014 at 11:20 am #629004 Back to Top REPORT
    roadhazardj76
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    I think you might have to wait for that ansqer larry. He seems to be behind on information.

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    May 9, 2014 at 11:25 am #629005 Back to Top REPORT
    statedriller
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    At least 3 months from now this thread will still be on page one…lol
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    May 9, 2014 at 11:28 am #629006 Back to Top REPORT
    gjarcher
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    I’ve seen similar results.

    How much the DW is reduced is not a factor in ‘safety’. If the OP only needs to lower DW by 3-5 lbs, then all the technical wiz-was can be ignored, just use a reliable bow scale or have the dealer set the desired DW. If the OP wants to shoot at the absolute minimum safe DW, then just back off 5 full turns on each limb, and test the DW with a bow scale … don’t be surprised if it is 15~20 lbs less than limb rated DW.

    If the bow is to be shot all the time at the lowest possible DW, consideration should be given to installing lower rated DW limbs, IMHO

    The limb bolt angle to the limb is the limiting factor. If the limb bolt is backed off too far, creating an angle to the limb/limb pocket, then the bolt will eventually bend and the treads in the riser and/or on the bolt may be ruined. So, if the manual says you can back off 5 full turns and safely shoot the bow, then the DW can fall where it may since it is not an important factor.

    Bows that use a barrel in the riser to keep the limb bolt square to the limb/limb pocket can be backed off more than 5 turns. The Monster/MR-series is an example: 9 full turns to shoot safely, DW reduction of 15+ lbs with the Monster, much more with the MR’s.

    May 9, 2014 at 6:43 pm #629033 Back to Top REPORT
    99fatboy
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    Hey fboy, could you explain the real world results of limb bolt reduction and measured weight compared to your answer above…. 

    CreedXs 70lb limbs

    Actual weight bottomed out 69.8
    backed off 1/4 to start
    then backed off 1 full turn total 1.25 turns= 65.08 lbs
    ……………………………………………2.25 turns= 61.5 lbs
    ……………………………………………3.25 turns= 58.2 lbs
    …………………………………………….4.25 turns= 55.2 lbs
    ……………………………………………. 5.25 turns= 51.8lbs

    real world results are usually around 73lbs. max on a creed xs from the factory, real world weight reduction is 2-3lbs. per turn. Don’t try to fool me, you can’t read fractions.

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    May 9, 2014 at 7:02 pm #629035 Back to Top REPORT
    gjarcher
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    Aren’t the Creed limb bolts 3/8″ – 16 tpi  coarse thread instead of the usual 3/8″- 24 tpi fine threads? The Coarse Threads are closer to 4 lbs per turn rather than the 2.5 lbs of the fine thread bolts, like on the old Switchback.

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    May 9, 2014 at 7:17 pm #629039 Back to Top REPORT
    roadhazardj76
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    He must not have gotten that message from mathews either.

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    May 9, 2014 at 7:53 pm #629040 Back to Top REPORT
    99fatboy
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    2,3,4lbs., whatever… put it on a scale and put it where you want it. Yes, they are coarse thread bolts. I guess the bottom line is that Mathews has bows in 10lb. increments, from 50-70 lbs with a 5 turn limit on all creed/chill limb bolts.
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    May 9, 2014 at 8:14 pm #629041 Back to Top REPORT
    statedriller
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    The misinformation floating around this place astounds me.   99fatboy, you should reexamine the roll you think you play here.

    Thank you Brian for the good help.  I hope the OP got the right information that he needed.

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    May 9, 2014 at 8:45 pm #629042 Back to Top REPORT

    deerstand

    Age: 36
    Joined: 5/8/2014
    Location: ohio
    Thank you , i really appriciate the help. I love how the bow is shooting , but I have incurred a shoulder injury this week and may need some time to heal and want to be able
    To shoot my rig . So I will be dropping the weight for this summer !
    May 9, 2014 at 8:46 pm #629043 Back to Top REPORT

    deerstand

    Age: 36
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    Or until comfortable again
    May 9, 2014 at 10:15 pm #629048 Back to Top REPORT
    statedriller
    statedriller

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    Just be careful and don’t push your shoulder.  You don’t want to cause permanent damage.
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    May 10, 2014 at 6:12 pm #629094 Back to Top REPORT

    deerstand

    Age: 36
    Joined: 5/8/2014
    Location: ohio
    Where would I look for lower weight limbs , tried to google it . But no luck
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