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  • February 9, 2013 at 7:32 pm #498149 Back to Top REPORT
    wrenchturner
    wrenchturner

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    I was shooting my indoor league this AM and noticed some serving wear on the cables right at the roller guard when the bow isn’t drawn. The wear actually isn’t in contact with the cable guard when the bow is drawn. The bow tech said no problem, he’ll just re-serve it. This is a Helium 28″ 65# limbs set at 63#. This bow isn’t quite a year old yet (March 2012), although I shoot 40-60 arrows per day, 5 days/week average. String still looks brand new. My question is what would be causing what I call premature cable wear at the roller guard. Both wheels at the roller guard seem to roll smooth with no apparent nicks or other noticeable damage. It shoots just like the day I brought it home and is quiet upon release. I can fix the cable, but I don’t know the cause. Maybe it’s just normal thing from use. Any feedback to possible problem/cure is appreciated.

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    February 9, 2013 at 8:59 pm #552136 Back to Top REPORT
    raven
    Raven

    Age: 45
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    Location: Ohio
    I have a similar issue on my year old HeliM as well

    Good question

    HeliM 27.5@56lbs Easton Bloodline 400's/ CX Blue Streak 250 Truball Max 4 /Short n Sweet/Ktech
    February 9, 2013 at 9:28 pm #552137 Back to Top REPORT

    babowhunter

    Joined: 1/29/2008
    My DXT had the same problem and found it had a bad bearing in the roller it was fixed under warranty and problem was solved
    February 11, 2013 at 12:12 pm #552138 Back to Top REPORT
    srfrboy
    srfrboy

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    I too am having a problem with my 9 month old Heli-M , the string serving is unraveling right at the roller guard, it started a couple weeks after I started shooting. I showed it to the shop where I bought it and he just stared at it and didn’t say a thing, I asked him if Mathews was having a problem with this issue, nothing was said!
    February 11, 2013 at 5:42 pm #552139 Back to Top REPORT
    raven
    Raven

    Age: 45
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    Location: Ohio
    I too am having a problem with my 9 month old he will-M , the string serving is unraveling right at the roller guard, it started a couple weeks after I started shooting. I showed it to the shop where I bought it and he just stared at it and didn’t say a thing, I asked him if Mathews was having a problem with this issue, nothing was said!

    My situation was exactly the same. Anybody out there have any info or advice on this issue? My dealer told me it was normal ](*,) . I am wanting to put on a new custom string and cable and really dont want them tore up. My bow is in spec and tuned to shoot bullets in paper and has been the whole time.

    HeliM 27.5@56lbs Easton Bloodline 400's/ CX Blue Streak 250 Truball Max 4 /Short n Sweet/Ktech
    February 11, 2013 at 5:59 pm #552140 Back to Top REPORT
    mobucks
    MOBucks

    Joined: 7/16/2011
    Location: British Columbia
    Same problem with my Xtreme, Neil put on some Worlds Best one year ago for me. Not sure about stock cables but it appears the serving on WBS starts and stops, with different serving, just past the roller. Mine started to separate mid November, had it reserved with no joint. Wondering if there is a reason for the joint to be right there and different serving.
    February 11, 2013 at 9:22 pm #552141 Back to Top REPORT

    Kent

    Joined: 1/1/2006
    My 2010 Z7 is doing the same thing. I don’t care what kind of bow you shoot, there is always something. I guess if this is the worst thing that happens ” title=”Applause” />
    February 11, 2013 at 10:11 pm #552142 Back to Top REPORT
    l-o-s-t-arrow
    L.O.S.T.Arrow

    Joined: 5/16/2006
    Location: Alberta
    :D Some may have a roller issue ..bearings OR

    IF you had one of the first models the roller looked like this…

    Red line is top roller stop…it is smooth round…

    the strings vibrated slightly and caused this …Newer roller guards had two raised ridges right where string and cable ride…

    cant find my pic but example shown in blue…

    also on the HeliM the one bolt or set nut had to be tight on the roller Guard rod or it could twist and cause wear…

    Take it to your Mathews dealer and if its an issue it will be relaced by Mathews if your original owner..

    Neil

    February 12, 2013 at 12:12 am #552143 Back to Top REPORT
    raven
    Raven

    Age: 45
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    Location: Ohio
    Neil
    Will dealers know about this?

    Thanks

    HeliM 27.5@56lbs Easton Bloodline 400's/ CX Blue Streak 250 Truball Max 4 /Short n Sweet/Ktech
    February 12, 2013 at 2:36 pm #552144 Back to Top REPORT
    l-o-s-t-arrow
    L.O.S.T.Arrow

    Joined: 5/16/2006
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    Neil
    Will dealers know about this?

    Thanks[/quote:tcdsbs3p]

    :D Maybe not all…if you explain they will likely contact Mathews and be advised from there…Mathews will remedy the issue..

    Neil

    February 12, 2013 at 5:34 pm #552145 Back to Top REPORT
    raven
    Raven

    Age: 45
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    Neil,

    We need you to open a shop down here! [=}=]

    HeliM 27.5@56lbs Easton Bloodline 400's/ CX Blue Streak 250 Truball Max 4 /Short n Sweet/Ktech
    February 13, 2013 at 2:33 am #552146 Back to Top REPORT
    wrenchturner
    wrenchturner

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    Just like that, I told the dealer about the roller, the dealer contacted Mathews, and said they would take care of it. Thank you Neil :D If I repair something, I want to know the cause of the failure. Just how I am.
    February 13, 2013 at 2:50 am #552147 Back to Top REPORT
    raven
    Raven

    Age: 45
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    Location: Ohio
    Went to the shop and they did not know about this but they changed the roller for me anyway. They re-served the string and asked me to pay $12 for the serving job. I figured they should have did the re-serve for free as I bought a Focus grip and a K-tech stabilizer but at least it is right now. [=}=]
    HeliM 27.5@56lbs Easton Bloodline 400's/ CX Blue Streak 250 Truball Max 4 /Short n Sweet/Ktech
    February 23, 2013 at 8:54 pm #564540 Back to Top REPORT

    LittleTorquer

    Joined: 12/27/2012
    My Heli-m (new Oct 2012) has the bus cable serving worn through at the cable guard roller, you have to draw the bow a bit in order to see it.

    I called the dealer where I bought it and explained the problem.  They were not aware of any problem with the cable or rollers but said they would call Mathews and ask.

    I hope there is a solution to this that addresses the root cause of the serving separation/wear and not just make an attempt to re-serve the cable.  I don’t believe you can have good results from re-serving while on the bow.

    I’ll post back what the dealer finds out…

    February 26, 2013 at 2:42 pm #565305 Back to Top REPORT

    LittleTorquer

    Joined: 12/27/2012
    Dealer called Mathews today and was told that the problem could have been caused by the cable/serving being a little “fat” in the area of the cable guard.

    The tech told the dealer they would send a new cable, string and cable guard roller under warranty.  I think this is the best outcome and feel sure it will fix the problem.

    Good service all around, dealer and Mathews!

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