I am going to setup my helim for 3d with a single sidebar. Was wondering if there are some starting points as far as weight forward and to the rear. Will be on an 8″ front bstinger and a 6″ rear bstinger. Trying to keep it within the hunter class rules.I would start with 1-3oz. on the front and 4-6oz. on the rear. I like my setup to stay steady after the shot, no forward, back, or sideways movement. Of course, we all feel something different at the shot. I have the b-stinger setup on my magnum, which is completely different than the heli m, but I have 2oz. on the front and 6oz. on the rear. Depending on weight and length of your sight, this will determine how far out to the side that you want the rear bar and how much weight you want and where. Hand position will also have an effect on weight distribution. Keep an open mind and just experiment till it feels right. Keep us posted.black z7 magnum,tommy hogg,qad,b-stingers, vaportrail: blue smoke triumph,sword,hamskae,b-stingers:black creed,tommy hogg,qad,ktechFound it balances well with a single one ounce weight on the front and five on the rear. Amazing how nice it is to have a balanced bow. Really tightens up the group. Will likely use this to hunt this year. Hope to have good success in the 3d season.Sweet, I hope my suggestions helped you get it right. Good luck.black z7 magnum,tommy hogg,qad,b-stingers, vaportrail: blue smoke triumph,sword,hamskae,b-stingers:black creed,tommy hogg,qad,ktechUnless there has been a change I am not aware of, the IBO rules posted on the Internet prohibit V-Bars/Sidebars in Hunter Class.C. Level Three — Entry Level Adult Classes1. Hunter Class (HC) … Only one stabilizer may be used. The stabilizer shall be no more than 12 inches long, and extend no more than 12 inches from the point of attachment to the riser of the bow. Additional Vbars, counter balances, or weighted attachments are prohibited. (For the purposes of this rule, any device adding length or weight to the stabilizer shall be considered part of the stabilizer and shall be subject to the 12-inch rule.) Un-weighted vibration dampeners are not considered to be stabilizers; however, un-weighted vibration dampeners attached to the stabilizer are measured
as a part of the stabilizer and are subject to the 12-inch rule above.
Joined: 7/21/2004I do believe it is illegal, as stated in the rules posted by Brian. On a side note, I feel that the bowhunter class rules do need an update. I’m thinking that there are almost as many single pin movers being used on hunting rigs as multi pin setups. There is also a growing trend to actually balance the bow for hunting, as people realize thru experience that one can shoot a balanced bow more consistently. I realize that there needs to be parameters on length of bars and how far out from the riser the sight pins are, but I think it’s time for a change.black z7 magnum,tommy hogg,qad,b-stingers, vaportrail: blue smoke triumph,sword,hamskae,b-stingers:black creed,tommy hogg,qad,ktech
A truly balanced HeliM. Good for 100yds. I think you guys will get to see it in few weeks go for an easy 65yds on a SD Muley! I know I had a lot of weight in the back. Looks like 3 and a K1 I think. 6″ 2 rod stab with the Harmonic lite installed. All Ktech. Had a 11 oz. Sur Loc Lethal Weapon pushed as close to the riser as possible to the riser. Shot like a dream. Put the same rig on the Creed and it was no where close. A totally different beast. One word of advice is not to push your sight out from your bow to make it look cool unless you can counterbalance it. what’s cool is drilling the bull’s-eye.From the 2014 IBO rules:
Only one stabilizer or stabilizer system having a single point of attachment may be used. The stabilizer can be any shape or configuration as long as it is contained within a theoretical sphere having a radius of 12 inches measured from the point of attachment. Additional Vbars, counter balances, or weighted attachments are prohibited. (For the purposes of this rule, any device adding length or weight to the stabilizer shall be considered part of the stabilizer and shall be subject to the 12-inch rule.)
Based on this rule and the picture in the rules my setup with a single point of attachment within a 12″ sphere would consist of a stabilizer system. If I had an additional v-bar, counter balance or other attachment I would be out of luck. Pretty sure it is legal based upon the 2014 rules
Joined: 9/29/2011Sagittarius I learned the hard way about having my sight dovetail all the way out ha. I thought it was helping me; WRONG. As soon as I changed my sight and put a Spot Hogg Hunter on my Helim I could not shoot at the same spot at twenty yards anymore. I went from no robin hoods to an empty wallet real fast ha. Good luck with your 3d this year Stratofisher.
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