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  • November 23, 2007 at 4:51 pm #516124 Back to Top REPORT
    rickym
    RickyM


    Joined: 8/4/2004

    Make no mistake about it though Dallas is the better team…

    Ha ha. Wishful thinking. Position by position, it’s tough to say one team has an advantage, but an easier case could be made for the Packers.

    Name a spot where allas has a distinct advantage over Green Bay now that this Grant kid looks to be for real.[/quote:3u3nd7vp]
    Offense
    team passing
    Dallas 2,925yards 29td’s 13int
    Green Bay 3,284 yards 22 td’s 8 int.
    adv. green bay

    Team rushing
    Dallas 1,349 yards 11 td’s.
    Green Bay 900 yards 7td’s
    adv. Dallas

    Team Rec.
    Dallas 3,043yards 29td’s 1 fum. these numbers with 60 less receptions.
    Green Bay 3,373yards 22td’s 8 fumbles! :shock:
    adv. Dallas

    Feild Goal
    Dallas 85%
    Green Bay 79%
    adv. Dallas

    Kick returns
    Dallas ranks 25th
    Green Bay18th
    adv. GB

    Team Scoring
    Dallas 2nd
    Green Bay 4th
    adv. Dallas

    Total Team Td’s
    Dallas 2nd
    Green Bay 5th
    adv. Dallas

    Defense

    Total Yards Allowed
    Dallas 7th
    GB 12th
    adv. Dallas

    Passing Def.
    Dallas 21st
    Gb 18th
    adv. GB

    Rushing Def
    Dallas 4th
    GB 12th
    Adv. Dallas

    def. sacks
    dallas 30
    gb 32
    adv. gb

    Interceptions
    dallas 16 with 2 td’s
    gb 12 with 1 td
    adv. dallas

    Adv…..dallas[/quote:3u3nd7vp]

    Stats are one thing, can review their schedule for me?[/quote:3u3nd7vp]

    Sure :thumbup
    Strength of Schedule
    Dallas 21st
    Green Bay23rd
    adv. Dallas

    Anything else?

    November 23, 2007 at 4:55 pm #516125 Back to Top REPORT
    jeff-k-in-il
    Jeff K in IL

    Age: 26
    Joined: 11/1/2005

    Make no mistake about it though Dallas is the better team…

    Ha ha. Wishful thinking. Position by position, it’s tough to say one team has an advantage, but an easier case could be made for the Packers.

    Name a spot where allas has a distinct advantage over Green Bay now that this Grant kid looks to be for real.[/quote:fnopq813]
    Offense
    team passing
    Dallas 2,925yards 29td’s 13int
    Green Bay 3,284 yards 22 td’s 8 int.
    adv. green bay

    Team rushing
    Dallas 1,349 yards 11 td’s.
    Green Bay 900 yards 7td’s
    adv. Dallas

    Team Rec.
    Dallas 3,043yards 29td’s 1 fum. these numbers with 60 less receptions.
    Green Bay 3,373yards 22td’s 8 fumbles! :shock:
    adv. Dallas

    Feild Goal
    Dallas 85%
    Green Bay 79%
    adv. Dallas

    Kick returns
    Dallas ranks 25th
    Green Bay18th
    adv. GB

    Team Scoring
    Dallas 2nd
    Green Bay 4th
    adv. Dallas

    Total Team Td’s
    Dallas 2nd
    Green Bay 5th
    adv. Dallas

    Defense

    Total Yards Allowed
    Dallas 7th
    GB 12th
    adv. Dallas

    Passing Def.
    Dallas 21st
    Gb 18th
    adv. GB

    Rushing Def
    Dallas 4th
    GB 12th
    Adv. Dallas

    def. sacks
    dallas 30
    gb 32
    adv. gb

    Interceptions
    dallas 16 with 2 td’s
    gb 12 with 1 td
    adv. dallas

    Adv…..dallas[/quote:fnopq813]

    Stats are one thing, can review their schedule for me?[/quote:fnopq813]

    Sure :thumbup
    Strength of Schedule
    Dallas 21st
    Green Bay23rd
    adv. Dallas

    Anything else?[/quote:fnopq813]

    No strength of schedule, I am talking playing teams under 500, what is the combined records of the all the teams each have played… ;)

    November 23, 2007 at 5:04 pm #516126 Back to Top REPORT

    va mountain hunter

    Joined: 11/30/2004

    Make no mistake about it though Dallas is the better team…

    Ha ha. Wishful thinking. Position by position, it’s tough to say one team has an advantage, but an easier case could be made for the Packers.

    Name a spot where allas has a distinct advantage over Green Bay now that this Grant kid looks to be for real.[/quote:2z6kgdbk]
    Offense
    team passing
    Dallas 2,925yards 29td’s 13int
    Green Bay 3,284 yards 22 td’s 8 int.
    adv. green bay

    Team rushing
    Dallas 1,349 yards 11 td’s.
    Green Bay 900 yards 7td’s
    adv. Dallas

    Team Rec.
    Dallas 3,043yards 29td’s 1 fum. these numbers with 60 less receptions.
    Green Bay 3,373yards 22td’s 8 fumbles! :shock:
    adv. Dallas

    Feild Goal
    Dallas 85%
    Green Bay 79%
    adv. Dallas

    Kick returns
    Dallas ranks 25th
    Green Bay18th
    adv. GB

    Team Scoring
    Dallas 2nd
    Green Bay 4th
    adv. Dallas

    Total Team Td’s
    Dallas 2nd
    Green Bay 5th
    adv. Dallas

    Defense

    Total Yards Allowed
    Dallas 7th
    GB 12th
    adv. Dallas

    Passing Def.
    Dallas 21st
    Gb 18th
    adv. GB

    Rushing Def
    Dallas 4th
    GB 12th
    Adv. Dallas

    def. sacks
    dallas 30
    gb 32
    adv. gb

    Interceptions
    dallas 16 with 2 td’s
    gb 12 with 1 td
    adv. dallas

    Adv…..dallas[/color:2z6kgdbk][/quote:2z6kgdbk]

    The stats look incredibly even to me with the exception that allas has slightly better running stats (a difference that probably no longer exists with the emergence of Grant) and fewer fumbles from the receivers. I still don’t see any position, deemed by stats or otherwise, where one can say that allas has a distinct advantage. For example, when one team is ranked second statistically and the other fourth that’s generally seen as a “wash.” To say “Make no mistake about it though Dallas is the better team” is folly. The differences as I see them are that GB has two legit corners whereas allas has one and GB’s linebackers are better. Everywhere else I look the differences are too slight to give either team a clear advantage. So the question still stands; where does allas have a distinct advantage?

    November 23, 2007 at 5:23 pm #516127 Back to Top REPORT
    rickym
    RickyM


    Joined: 8/4/2004

    Make no mistake about it though Dallas is the better team…

    Ha ha. Wishful thinking. Position by position, it’s tough to say one team has an advantage, but an easier case could be made for the Packers.

    Name a spot where allas has a distinct advantage over Green Bay now that this Grant kid looks to be for real.[/quote:151de1wn]
    Offense
    team passing
    Dallas 2,925yards 29td’s 13int
    Green Bay 3,284 yards 22 td’s 8 int.
    adv. green bay

    Team rushing
    Dallas 1,349 yards 11 td’s.
    Green Bay 900 yards 7td’s
    adv. Dallas

    Team Rec.
    Dallas 3,043yards 29td’s 1 fum. these numbers with 60 less receptions.
    Green Bay 3,373yards 22td’s 8 fumbles! :shock:
    adv. Dallas

    Feild Goal
    Dallas 85%
    Green Bay 79%
    adv. Dallas

    Kick returns
    Dallas ranks 25th
    Green Bay18th
    adv. GB

    Team Scoring
    Dallas 2nd
    Green Bay 4th
    adv. Dallas

    Total Team Td’s
    Dallas 2nd
    Green Bay 5th
    adv. Dallas

    Defense

    Total Yards Allowed
    Dallas 7th
    GB 12th
    adv. Dallas

    Passing Def.
    Dallas 21st
    Gb 18th
    adv. GB

    Rushing Def
    Dallas 4th
    GB 12th
    Adv. Dallas

    def. sacks
    dallas 30
    gb 32
    adv. gb

    Interceptions
    dallas 16 with 2 td’s
    gb 12 with 1 td
    adv. dallas

    Adv…..dallas[/quote:151de1wn]

    Stats are one thing, can review their schedule for me?[/quote:151de1wn]

    Sure :thumbup
    Strength of Schedule
    Dallas 21st
    Green Bay23rd
    adv. Dallas

    Anything else?[/quote:151de1wn]

    No strength of schedule, I am talking playing teams under 500, what is the combined records of the all the teams each have played… ;)[/quote:151de1wn]

    opp. records combined
    Dallas 51-60
    GB- 53-58
    adv. gb MUCH closer than you thought huh?

    November 23, 2007 at 5:33 pm #516128 Back to Top REPORT
    rickym
    RickyM


    Joined: 8/4/2004

    Make no mistake about it though Dallas is the better team…

    Ha ha. Wishful thinking. Position by position, it’s tough to say one team has an advantage, but an easier case could be made for the Packers.

    Name a spot where allas has a distinct advantage over Green Bay now that this Grant kid looks to be for real.[/quote:1hafq12j]
    Offense
    team passing
    Dallas 2,925yards 29td’s 13int
    Green Bay 3,284 yards 22 td’s 8 int.
    adv. green bay

    Team rushing
    Dallas 1,349 yards 11 td’s.
    Green Bay 900 yards 7td’s
    adv. Dallas

    Team Rec.
    Dallas 3,043yards 29td’s 1 fum. these numbers with 60 less receptions.
    Green Bay 3,373yards 22td’s 8 fumbles! :shock:
    adv. Dallas

    Feild Goal
    Dallas 85%
    Green Bay 79%
    adv. Dallas

    Kick returns
    Dallas ranks 25th
    Green Bay18th
    adv. GB

    Team Scoring
    Dallas 2nd
    Green Bay 4th
    adv. Dallas

    Total Team Td’s
    Dallas 2nd
    Green Bay 5th
    adv. Dallas

    Defense

    Total Yards Allowed
    Dallas 7th
    GB 12th
    adv. Dallas

    Passing Def.
    Dallas 21st
    Gb 18th
    adv. GB

    Rushing Def
    Dallas 4th
    GB 12th
    Adv. Dallas

    def. sacks
    dallas 30
    gb 32
    adv. gb

    Interceptions
    dallas 16 with 2 td’s
    gb 12 with 1 td
    adv. dallas

    Adv…..dallas[/color:1hafq12j][/quote:1hafq12j]

    The differences as I see them are that GB has two legit corners whereas allas has one and GB’s linebackers are better. Everywhere else I look the differences are too slight to give either team a clear advantage. So the question still stands; where does allas have a distinct advantage?[/quote:1hafq12j]

    2 good corners..yet they are only 18th compared to 21st for dallas. pretty close. ;) better linebackers…yet dallas is 4th againist the run gb is 12th. :^O

    I’m not saying that GB is a bad team cause they are not. but…For people to keep downing Dallas, when the only team we have lost to is the Pats is crazy.. The Packers lost to the Bears! the same bears that the boys beat 34-10.. ;)

    November 23, 2007 at 5:42 pm #516129 Back to Top REPORT

    va mountain hunter

    Joined: 11/30/2004
    2 good corners..yet they are only 18th compared to 21st for dallas. pretty close. ;) better linebackers…yet dallas is 4th againist the run gb is 12th. :^O

    Yup, but they’ve still got two.

    Barnett is better than anyone allas has at LB and Hawk is better than all of them combined.

    I’m just sayin’, those are the glaring differences I see and that everywhere else the differences are too slight to deem either one better. The whole point was to claim either team is significantly better is ridiculous.

    November 23, 2007 at 5:45 pm #516130 Back to Top REPORT
    rickym
    RickyM


    Joined: 8/4/2004
    The whole point was to claim either team is significantly better is ridiculous.

    Agreed. :thumbup I do think Dallas will win by 17 though. :^O

    November 23, 2007 at 5:47 pm #516131 Back to Top REPORT
    pabowhunter4life
    PABowhunter4life

    Joined: 3/20/2005

    2 good corners..yet they are only 18th compared to 21st for dallas. pretty close. ;) better linebackers…yet dallas is 4th againist the run gb is 12th. :^O

    Yup, but they’ve still got two.

    Barnett is better than anyone allas has at LB and Hawk is better than all of them combined.

    I’m just sayin’, those are the glaring differences I see and that everywhere else the differences are too slight to deem either one better. The whole point was to claim either team is significantly better is ridiculous.[/quote:2mvdxkv9]

    I agree with Barry on the line-backing debate as Hawk is better than anyone Dallas has had in quite a few years and Barnett is very talented as well. However, with the exception of Woodson who may not even play next week I have no clue who the other shutdown corner is on GB because if it’s Al Harris you speak of the only receivers he can shut down are guys I could cover. There’s no way he is covering TO without a lot of help and once they focus on the receiving core it’s only a matter of time before Barber wears them down [=}=]

    To boot, if the Detroit receivers could have caught a ball or two yesterday that game could have had a very different outcome and Harris wouldn’t have appeared as “dominant” as he was made out to be ;)

    November 23, 2007 at 5:55 pm #516132 Back to Top REPORT
    dodgegirl
    DodgeGirl

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    Of course I said Dallas :) GreenBay is a great team and Farve is obviously still in his prime at 38-Romo is young but playing well-It is going to be the best game of the season no doubt! I can’t wait :)
    November 23, 2007 at 8:53 pm #516133 Back to Top REPORT

    va mountain hunter

    Joined: 11/30/2004

    2 good corners..yet they are only 18th compared to 21st for dallas. pretty close. ;) better linebackers…yet dallas is 4th againist the run gb is 12th. :^O

    Yup, but they’ve still got two.

    Barnett is better than anyone allas has at LB and Hawk is better than all of them combined.

    I’m just sayin’, those are the glaring differences I see and that everywhere else the differences are too slight to deem either one better. The whole point was to claim either team is significantly better is ridiculous.[/quote:qk1yyln2]

    I agree with Barry on the line-backing debate as Hawk is better than anyone Dallas has had in quite a few years and Barnett is very talented as well. However, with the exception of Woodson who may not even play next week I have no clue who the other shutdown corner is on GB because if it’s Al Harris you speak of the only receivers he can shut down are guys I could cover. There’s no way he is covering TO without a lot of help and once they focus on the receiving core it’s only a matter of time before Barber wears them down [=}=]

    To boot, if the Detroit receivers could have caught a ball or two yesterday that game could have had a very different outcome and Harris wouldn’t have appeared as “dominant” as he was made out to be ;)[/quote:qk1yyln2]

    I only referred to him as “legit,” which he certainly is. He’s got an almost 2:1 ratio of interceptions to touchdowns allowed in coverage over the past three seasons and has also been a Pro Bowl (the legitimate type, not the popularity type) alternate each of the past three seasons. He’s a darn solid NFL CB in a world where there are few.

    November 23, 2007 at 10:10 pm #516134 Back to Top REPORT
    merve_01
    merve_01

    Age: 31
    Joined: 1/13/2007
    Location: Indiana
    Jeff- Several points to make…
    Fact is both the Redskins game and the Bills games are victories… there is no need to defend the games… A win is a win no matter what and thats all that matters- Right? But anywho… Romo throws 5 interceptions and still wins at the Bills read into what you want- but it was a fluke game for Romo and does NOT tell anything about Romo in that he is so inconsistent from week to week- he is not Rex Grossman… Say what you want he had 5 interceptions… and won. Manning had 6 this year and lost. and the precious Brady has thrown at LEAST one game a year with 4 interceptions EVERY year except this one… yet both the last 2 are GREAT qbs… bad games happen for every team and every player… no matter how great… Look at LT this year… he is “struggling” to live up to his own greatness… Romo had an off game and the Cowboys beat the Bills a team that went on a long winning streak… so maybe they weren’t as bad as their record suggests.
    As for the Redskins- a team that ALWAYS plays up to the Cowboys… Dallas won- and they were pretty much in control the entire game… were behind briefly… but perhaps they were looking ahead?
    Common sense would lead anyone to believe unless you are the Patriots that every win isn’t going to be by double figures… the Pats last 3 superbowls were won by a field goal or something right? Great teams win the games they are supposed to and find ways to win the games they SHOULD lose… Dallas and Greenbay has been doing such…
    There is no question that both teams are very good this year… Romo and Farve is on fire and if it weren’t for Brady they would be talked about for MVP this year… both will play 1 and 2 barring injury on the NFC probowl squad- Farve getting the nod because he is older and more popular (no doubt Pro Bowl is a popularity contest) That said stats mean very little… look at the packers offense and you note they have a lot of yards passing… which will ALWAYS even with a bad team result in more yardage… ALWAYS- every coach and gm will agree… As for running… the Cowboys have 2 featured backs Julius Jones and Marion Barber III Packers have Ryan Grant who has been doing well lately… so to say either team is better at running could be a wash.. however I will say that the Cowboys get the nod because they got 2… Greenbay has no depth… and there guy is still “unproven”… and he has fresh legs right now compared to rest of league… give him a few more games see if he slows down…
    As far as receiving Dallas has the advantage… They have a top 2 wr in Witten and a top 2 wr in Owens… as well as Crayton- their number 2 wr who has more yardage than nearly every other number 2 wr in league and has more yardage and tds than MOST number 1 options… all the while throwing the ball SIGNIFICANTLY less than Greenbay… if Dallas had to rely on throwing only they would be significantly higher stats…
    The importance of a running game is everything especially towards the playoffs when rain, cold, snow, ice make it hazardous and difficult to throw all the time… look for the big 4s stats to drop towards end of season- Farve, Brady, Romo, and Rothlisberger… running games will have to carry more of the load…
    So leads us to defense… Dallas has been a STUD against the run… remember Peterson against them Jeff- Not so much right? How about Portis? Lynch? Now I will say that Greenbay has been BETTER against the pass… in both coverage and maybe pressures…
    but there is a catch… Newman missed the every game and practice until the Patriots game… he is just as of last week 100% from a partially torn tendon in his foot. Every since the Pats game… Anthony Henry who led the NFL in interceptions even after only playing 5 games compared to everyone elses 8-10 games has been out with a ankle sprain and since then he has been playing VERY liberally in only nickle situations… he is not 100% healthy but is getting close and is likely to start for FIRST time since Newman came back…
    this will be the FIRST time this season with BOTH corner backs together… Make no doubt about it Newman is VERY underrated… he is the definition of a SHUTDOWN corner… find the stats on how many tds he has let the offense score…. I believe this year or end of last year was his first one in 2 years… thats right he shut the opposing teams number 1 wr down for almost 2 years… amazing… Anthony Henry is old and injury prone but he is above average…. having both play at same time will be a HUGE benefit… then comes passrush… greg ellis missed all of training camp and most of season with his achilles injury from last year… he jsut came back 4-6 games ago and has been a stud since… this has helped with the sacks and pressures… and will only continue to get better as he gets to 100%… Ware, Ellis, Canty, Ratliff (Wade said best nt in NFL at pressuring QB) are all great at getting to the qb… add in Tank Johnson who is fresh and on a mission to prove to the Cowboys and rest of league he was worth the “risk” and the defense is only going to get better as season goes on… be scared for Farve…
    Look at the Greenbay injury report… there are some big questions Cole- fractured arm and may be out for season… woodson, KGB, and others… all may miss or be less than 100% for next Thursday- which will give all the Packer fans their excuses if they should lose big next week…

    Last thing I will say on this post:
    I know Packers are good…. but so are the Cowboys… and I may be a homer in saying this but I believe 50% of us who pick the Packers over the ‘Boys are doing so just because of the HATE for the Cowboys… however nothing that we discuss in this thread or any others will matter…
    and I know I have picked the Cowboys every week… and I normally don’t but I do believe they have been the best team every week… and they have proved it but once… they are GREAT this year and have lost ONLY to the Pats… give them their credit
    That said I am not giving my pick until next week…

    November 23, 2007 at 11:34 pm #516135 Back to Top REPORT
    jeff-k-in-il
    Jeff K in IL

    Age: 26
    Joined: 11/1/2005

    Jeff- Several points to make…
    Fact is both the Redskins game and the Bills games are victories… there is no need to defend the games… A win is a win no matter what and thats all that matters- Right? But anywho… Romo throws 5 interceptions and still wins at the Bills read into what you want- but it was a fluke game for Romo and does NOT tell anything about Romo in that he is so inconsistent from week to week- he is not Rex Grossman… Say what you want he had 5 interceptions… and won. Manning had 6 this year and lost. and the precious Brady has thrown at LEAST one game a year with 4 interceptions EVERY year except this one… yet both the last 2 are GREAT qbs… bad games happen for every team and every player… no matter how great… Look at LT this year… he is “struggling” to live up to his own greatness… Romo had an off game and the Cowboys beat the Bills a team that went on a long winning streak… so maybe they weren’t as bad as their record suggests.
    As for the Redskins- a team that ALWAYS plays up to the Cowboys… Dallas won- and they were pretty much in control the entire game… were behind briefly… but perhaps they were looking ahead?
    Common sense would lead anyone to believe unless you are the Patriots that every win isn’t going to be by double figures… the Pats last 3 superbowls were won by a field goal or something right? Great teams win the games they are supposed to and find ways to win the games they SHOULD lose… Dallas and Greenbay has been doing such…
    There is no question that both teams are very good this year… Romo and Farve is on fire and if it weren’t for Brady they would be talked about for MVP this year… both will play 1 and 2 barring injury on the NFC probowl squad- Farve getting the nod because he is older and more popular (no doubt Pro Bowl is a popularity contest) That said stats mean very little… look at the packers offense and you note they have a lot of yards passing… which will ALWAYS even with a bad team result in more yardage… ALWAYS- every coach and gm will agree… As for running… the Cowboys have 2 featured backs Julius Jones and Marion Barber III Packers have Ryan Grant who has been doing well lately… so to say either team is better at running could be a wash.. however I will say that the Cowboys get the nod because they got 2… Greenbay has no depth… and there guy is still “unproven”… and he has fresh legs right now compared to rest of league… give him a few more games see if he slows down…
    As far as receiving Dallas has the advantage… They have a top 2 wr in Witten and a top 2 wr in Owens… as well as Crayton- their number 2 wr who has more yardage than nearly every other number 2 wr in league and has more yardage and tds than MOST number 1 options… all the while throwing the ball SIGNIFICANTLY less than Greenbay… if Dallas had to rely on throwing only they would be significantly higher stats…
    The importance of a running game is everything especially towards the playoffs when rain, cold, snow, ice make it hazardous and difficult to throw all the time… look for the big 4s stats to drop towards end of season- Farve, Brady, Romo, and Rothlisberger… running games will have to carry more of the load…
    So leads us to defense… Dallas has been a STUD against the run… remember Peterson against them Jeff- Not so much right? How about Portis? Lynch? Now I will say that Greenbay has been BETTER against the pass… in both coverage and maybe pressures…
    but there is a catch… Newman missed the every game and practice until the Patriots game… he is just as of last week 100% from a partially torn tendon in his foot. Every since the Pats game… Anthony Henry who led the NFL in interceptions even after only playing 5 games compared to everyone elses 8-10 games has been out with a ankle sprain and since then he has been playing VERY liberally in only nickle situations… he is not 100% healthy but is getting close and is likely to start for FIRST time since Newman came back…
    this will be the FIRST time this season with BOTH corner backs together… Make no doubt about it Newman is VERY underrated… he is the definition of a SHUTDOWN corner… find the stats on how many tds he has let the offense score…. I believe this year or end of last year was his first one in 2 years… thats right he shut the opposing teams number 1 wr down for almost 2 years… amazing… Anthony Henry is old and injury prone but he is above average…. having both play at same time will be a HUGE benefit… then comes passrush… greg ellis missed all of training camp and most of season with his achilles injury from last year… he jsut came back 4-6 games ago and has been a stud since… this has helped with the sacks and pressures… and will only continue to get better as he gets to 100%… Ware, Ellis, Canty, Ratliff (Wade said best nt in NFL at pressuring QB) are all great at getting to the qb… add in Tank Johnson who is fresh and on a mission to prove to the Cowboys and rest of league he was worth the “risk” and the defense is only going to get better as season goes on… be scared for Farve…
    Look at the Greenbay injury report… there are some big questions Cole- fractured arm and may be out for season… woodson, KGB, and others… all may miss or be less than 100% for next Thursday- which will give all the Packer fans their excuses if they should lose big next week…

    Last thing I will say on this post:
    I know Packers are good…. but so are the Cowboys… and I may be a homer in saying this but I believe 50% of us who pick the Packers over the ‘Boys are doing so just because of the HATE for the Cowboys… however nothing that we discuss in this thread or any others will matter…
    and I know I have picked the Cowboys every week… and I normally don’t but I do believe they have been the best team every week… and they have proved it but once… they are GREAT this year and have lost ONLY to the Pats… give them their credit
    That said I am not giving my pick until next week…[/quote:qi62sau1]

    Then same goes for the Pack/Lions game… ;)

    November 23, 2007 at 11:55 pm #516136 Back to Top REPORT
    merve_01
    merve_01

    Age: 31
    Joined: 1/13/2007
    Location: Indiana

    Jeff- Several points to make…
    Fact is both the Redskins game and the Bills games are victories… there is no need to defend the games… A win is a win no matter what and thats all that matters- Right? But anywho… Romo throws 5 interceptions and still wins at the Bills read into what you want- but it was a fluke game for Romo and does NOT tell anything about Romo in that he is so inconsistent from week to week- he is not Rex Grossman… Say what you want he had 5 interceptions… and won. Manning had 6 this year and lost. and the precious Brady has thrown at LEAST one game a year with 4 interceptions EVERY year except this one… yet both the last 2 are GREAT qbs… bad games happen for every team and every player… no matter how great… Look at LT this year… he is “struggling” to live up to his own greatness… Romo had an off game and the Cowboys beat the Bills a team that went on a long winning streak… so maybe they weren’t as bad as their record suggests.
    As for the Redskins- a team that ALWAYS plays up to the Cowboys… Dallas won- and they were pretty much in control the entire game… were behind briefly… but perhaps they were looking ahead?
    Common sense would lead anyone to believe unless you are the Patriots that every win isn’t going to be by double figures… the Pats last 3 superbowls were won by a field goal or something right? Great teams win the games they are supposed to and find ways to win the games they SHOULD lose… Dallas and Greenbay has been doing such…
    There is no question that both teams are very good this year… Romo and Farve is on fire and if it weren’t for Brady they would be talked about for MVP this year… both will play 1 and 2 barring injury on the NFC probowl squad- Farve getting the nod because he is older and more popular (no doubt Pro Bowl is a popularity contest) That said stats mean very little… look at the packers offense and you note they have a lot of yards passing… which will ALWAYS even with a bad team result in more yardage… ALWAYS- every coach and gm will agree… As for running… the Cowboys have 2 featured backs Julius Jones and Marion Barber III Packers have Ryan Grant who has been doing well lately… so to say either team is better at running could be a wash.. however I will say that the Cowboys get the nod because they got 2… Greenbay has no depth… and there guy is still “unproven”… and he has fresh legs right now compared to rest of league… give him a few more games see if he slows down…
    As far as receiving Dallas has the advantage… They have a top 2 wr in Witten and a top 2 wr in Owens… as well as Crayton- their number 2 wr who has more yardage than nearly every other number 2 wr in league and has more yardage and tds than MOST number 1 options… all the while throwing the ball SIGNIFICANTLY less than Greenbay… if Dallas had to rely on throwing only they would be significantly higher stats…
    The importance of a running game is everything especially towards the playoffs when rain, cold, snow, ice make it hazardous and difficult to throw all the time… look for the big 4s stats to drop towards end of season- Farve, Brady, Romo, and Rothlisberger… running games will have to carry more of the load…
    So leads us to defense… Dallas has been a STUD against the run… remember Peterson against them Jeff- Not so much right? How about Portis? Lynch? Now I will say that Greenbay has been BETTER against the pass… in both coverage and maybe pressures…
    but there is a catch… Newman missed the every game and practice until the Patriots game… he is just as of last week 100% from a partially torn tendon in his foot. Every since the Pats game… Anthony Henry who led the NFL in interceptions even after only playing 5 games compared to everyone elses 8-10 games has been out with a ankle sprain and since then he has been playing VERY liberally in only nickle situations… he is not 100% healthy but is getting close and is likely to start for FIRST time since Newman came back…
    this will be the FIRST time this season with BOTH corner backs together… Make no doubt about it Newman is VERY underrated… he is the definition of a SHUTDOWN corner… find the stats on how many tds he has let the offense score…. I believe this year or end of last year was his first one in 2 years… thats right he shut the opposing teams number 1 wr down for almost 2 years… amazing… Anthony Henry is old and injury prone but he is above average…. having both play at same time will be a HUGE benefit… then comes passrush… greg ellis missed all of training camp and most of season with his achilles injury from last year… he jsut came back 4-6 games ago and has been a stud since… this has helped with the sacks and pressures… and will only continue to get better as he gets to 100%… Ware, Ellis, Canty, Ratliff (Wade said best nt in NFL at pressuring QB) are all great at getting to the qb… add in Tank Johnson who is fresh and on a mission to prove to the Cowboys and rest of league he was worth the “risk” and the defense is only going to get better as season goes on… be scared for Farve…
    Look at the Greenbay injury report… there are some big questions Cole- fractured arm and may be out for season… woodson, KGB, and others… all may miss or be less than 100% for next Thursday- which will give all the Packer fans their excuses if they should lose big next week…

    Last thing I will say on this post:
    I know Packers are good…. but so are the Cowboys… and I may be a homer in saying this but I believe 50% of us who pick the Packers over the ‘Boys are doing so just because of the HATE for the Cowboys… however nothing that we discuss in this thread or any others will matter…
    and I know I have picked the Cowboys every week… and I normally don’t but I do believe they have been the best team every week… and they have proved it but once… they are GREAT this year and have lost ONLY to the Pats… give them their credit
    That said I am not giving my pick until next week…[/quote:29dz2y11]

    Then same goes for the Pack/Lions game… ;)[/quote:29dz2y11]

    Didn’t bring up Lions game… others did ;) will be a good game… and looking forward to a rematch in the playoffs… ;)

    November 24, 2007 at 12:00 am #516137 Back to Top REPORT
    finn
    Finn

    Joined: 7/19/2006
    I hope the Packers win….should be a good game.

    Curious, who’s Jerry Jones got naked pictures of that the Cowboys NEVER play in Green Bay when the Packers have a good team? ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)

    November 24, 2007 at 12:04 am #516138 Back to Top REPORT
    merve_01
    merve_01

    Age: 31
    Joined: 1/13/2007
    Location: Indiana

    I hope the Packers win….should be a good game.

    Curious, who’s Jerry Jones got naked pictures of that the Cowboys NEVER play in Green Bay when the Packers have a good team? ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)[/quote:25t65t65]

    LOL didn’t know they changed the schedules during the season… I don’t think ANYONE expected the Packers to be “OKAY” let alone “good”… nor did anyone really expect Dallas to be as excellent as they have been…

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