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  • November 21, 2008 at 12:59 pm #523250 Back to Top REPORT
    merve_01
    merve_01

    Age: 30
    Joined: 1/13/2007
    Location: Indiana

    Yeah, they make too much money. It’s way out of perspective…

    As for the idea that there are many teachers out in the world hence… low pay, what other profession can have as much possible impact on the future generations? Look at it that way, with that type of importance… teachers are way underpayed. My goal as a teacher was simple. I wanted to make sure that I made a difference in at least one student’s life a year. Best part was… I was never quite sure who that student would be. 30 years teaching = 30 lives where I made a difference. Can’t ask for more than that!

    Just my :2cents but… I have a bias on this one! What have you done today?

    ;)[/quote:243581nq]

    I thought about going into teaching. Thought hard about it. Even did some interns. It is a very important job and very noble. Pay isn’t great- but I have seen some VERY poor teachers that have no desire to improve the students life. Just like every job or company will have employees who can care less about what they do. That said I also know teachers who do very well for themselves and that is in 8 or so months of work.
    When students start generating millions of dollars for each school than I believe that teachers will get paid.
    Professional athletes are a union that demands a share of the profits for what they generate. Either way the NFL, NBA, MLB, MLS all generate tremendous amounts of revenues each season. Either those profits will be retained by the owners or they will be shared to those who generated the profits.
    Fact is a lot of people are either jealous or angered by how some athletes act and are angered by how much they make for how “little” they do. However these people often find it very hard to resist in watching these professionals do their job.
    I think actors and actresses get paid too much. How many millions do they get paid per 30 minute episode? How many millions for shooting one movie where their lives are not at risk, where their physical well being isn’t at risk?
    I think CEOS that run their companies into the ground (and those who don’t) get paid too much.
    But I think for the millions of students and athletes who strive to play in the big leagues and the VERY few that succeed should be rewarded for their 10+ years of dedicated work at no pay, especially when their careers could be ended their first game.

    November 21, 2008 at 1:53 pm #523251 Back to Top REPORT
    fats
    Fats

    Joined: 6/27/2005
    Location: In the evening shadow of oona-pa'is

    Yeah, they make too much money. It’s way out of perspective…

    As for the idea that there are many teachers out in the world hence… low pay, what other profession can have as much possible impact on the future generations? Look at it that way, with that type of importance… teachers are way underpayed. My goal as a teacher was simple. I wanted to make sure that I made a difference in at least one student’s life a year. Best part was… I was never quite sure who that student would be. 30 years teaching = 30 lives where I made a difference. Can’t ask for more than that!

    Just my :2cents but… I have a bias on this one! What have you done today?

    ;)[/quote:yw8lfni5]

    I thought about going into teaching. Thought hard about it. Even did some interns. It is a very important job and very noble. Pay isn’t great- but I have seen some VERY poor teachers that have no desire to improve the students life. Just like every job or company will have employees who can care less about what they do. That said I also know teachers who do very well for themselves and that is in 8 or so months of work.
    [/quote:yw8lfni5]

    All I know is when I counted up the hours in my “8 months” of work… I matched the hours done by my friends that were doing 50 weeks of their 9-5. It’s actually about 9 1/2 months but, I won’t quibble. They are not on un-employment during that time off, they just are not getting paid. Yeah, it’s a choice. No, teachers are not living in boxes either, but they don’t nearly make as much as they should for all the work they do. As I said, teachers are some of the few people that actually “make a difference” in kids lives on a regular basis. I’m sure even those “poor” teachers you see (they exist, I’ve got some at my school right now) touch and inspire some students during their career.

    When you compare that to the whiny, complaining attitude by many of the pro athletes today, it’s an embarassment. More of a statement about our society than anything. I’ll ask the question again, “what difference did you make today?” It’s not a snotty question either. If you are touching someone’s life in a positive way, good on you! If you can’t come up with an example, think about it.

    [=}=] 8D

    November 21, 2008 at 2:49 pm #523252 Back to Top REPORT
    jeff-k-in-il
    Jeff K in IL

    Age: 26
    Joined: 11/1/2005

    Yeah, they make too much money. It’s way out of perspective…

    As for the idea that there are many teachers out in the world hence… low pay, what other profession can have as much possible impact on the future generations? Look at it that way, with that type of importance… teachers are way underpayed. My goal as a teacher was simple. I wanted to make sure that I made a difference in at least one student’s life a year. Best part was… I was never quite sure who that student would be. 30 years teaching = 30 lives where I made a difference. Can’t ask for more than that!

    Just my :2cents but… I have a bias on this one! What have you done today?

    ;)[/quote:1ertn3za]

    I thought about going into teaching. Thought hard about it. Even did some interns. It is a very important job and very noble. Pay isn’t great- but I have seen some VERY poor teachers that have no desire to improve the students life. Just like every job or company will have employees who can care less about what they do. That said I also know teachers who do very well for themselves and that is in 8 or so months of work.
    When students start generating millions of dollars for each school than I believe that teachers will get paid.
    Professional athletes are a union that demands a share of the profits for what they generate. Either way the NFL, NBA, MLB, MLS all generate tremendous amounts of revenues each season. Either those profits will be retained by the owners or they will be shared to those who generated the profits.
    Fact is a lot of people are either jealous or angered by how some athletes act and are angered by how much they make for how “little” they do. However these people often find it very hard to resist in watching these professionals do their job.
    I think actors and actresses get paid too much. How many millions do they get paid per 30 minute episode? How many millions for shooting one movie where their lives are not at risk, where their physical well being isn’t at risk?
    I think CEOS that run their companies into the ground (and those who don’t) get paid too much.
    But I think for the millions of students and athletes who strive to play in the big leagues and the VERY few that succeed should be rewarded for their 10+ years of dedicated work at no pay, especially when their careers could be ended their first game.[/quote:1ertn3za]

    This is not about CEO’s, this is about Athletes, and while I will agree with
    you, don’t try to defend the amount of money they get paid to play a
    sport.

    November 21, 2008 at 3:19 pm #523253 Back to Top REPORT
    rockster11
    rockster11

    Joined: 7/4/2004
    I think the cowboys are all overpaid……………. :whistle :whistle :fishing :fishing :^O :hugs
    November 21, 2008 at 3:25 pm #523254 Back to Top REPORT
    drenalin-junkie
    Drenalin Junkie

    Joined: 12/7/2007
    I voted Yes.. If I say My Feelings, I’d Be band from the INTERNET [=}=]

    Chicken.. :p :^O

    November 21, 2008 at 3:25 pm #523255 Back to Top REPORT
    aoudad
    aoudad

    Joined: 8/25/2006
    I think the cowboys are all overpaid……………. :whistle :whistle :fishing :fishing :^O :hugs

    True, Jerry ran out of money for the stadium. #-o

    November 21, 2008 at 3:27 pm #523256 Back to Top REPORT
    rockster11
    rockster11

    Joined: 7/4/2004

    I think the cowboys are all overpaid……………. :whistle :whistle :fishing :fishing :^O :hugs

    True, Jerry ran out of money for the stadium. #-o[/quote:3c2gb638]

    :p :p :p #-o

    November 21, 2008 at 3:28 pm #523257 Back to Top REPORT
    blood-bath2006
    Blood Bath2006

    Joined: 10/14/2006
    Yes :thumbdown :thumbdown
    November 21, 2008 at 4:42 pm #523258 Back to Top REPORT
    merve_01
    merve_01

    Age: 30
    Joined: 1/13/2007
    Location: Indiana

    Yeah, they make too much money. It’s way out of perspective…

    As for the idea that there are many teachers out in the world hence… low pay, what other profession can have as much possible impact on the future generations? Look at it that way, with that type of importance… teachers are way underpayed. My goal as a teacher was simple. I wanted to make sure that I made a difference in at least one student’s life a year. Best part was… I was never quite sure who that student would be. 30 years teaching = 30 lives where I made a difference. Can’t ask for more than that!

    Just my :2cents but… I have a bias on this one! What have you done today?

    ;)[/quote:nucuth98]

    I thought about going into teaching. Thought hard about it. Even did some interns. It is a very important job and very noble. Pay isn’t great- but I have seen some VERY poor teachers that have no desire to improve the students life. Just like every job or company will have employees who can care less about what they do. That said I also know teachers who do very well for themselves and that is in 8 or so months of work.
    [/quote:nucuth98]

    All I know is when I counted up the hours in my “8 months” of work… I matched the hours done by my friends that were doing 50 weeks of their 9-5. It’s actually about 9 1/2 months but, I won’t quibble. They are not on un-employment during that time off, they just are not getting paid. Yeah, it’s a choice. No, teachers are not living in boxes either, but they don’t nearly make as much as they should for all the work they do. As I said, teachers are some of the few people that actually “make a difference” in kids lives on a regular basis. I’m sure even those “poor” teachers you see (they exist, I’ve got some at my school right now) touch and inspire some students during their career.

    When you compare that to the whiny, complaining attitude by many of the pro athletes today, it’s an embarassment. More of a statement about our society than anything. I’ll ask the question again, “what difference did you make today?” It’s not a snotty question either. If you are touching someone’s life in a positive way, good on you! If you can’t come up with an example, think about it.

    [=}=] 8D[/quote:nucuth98]

    While you may spend more time than most teaching it is the same as grouping all professional athletes into whining blah blah blah men…
    Not all teachers care about students. Not all teachers would give a care if their student drops out. I know I have talked to professors, teachers, coaches who have done so in action and in word. I know that some teacher (most) are great most care deeply about students. But just the same as the bad “apple” of professional sports there are the same in teaching. Only difference that those “bad apple” teachers have a bigger impact (negatively- possibly) than those of sports.

    As far as what have I done today? It doesn’t really matter. All one can do is do the best with what they have been given. If I treat everyone I meet with respect, try my best in all that I do, and strive to leave making my environment a better place than that is noble in my opinion. You don’t have to touch a child’s life to do something great in this world. As of right now I am doing something far more important and molding than being a teacher could ever be.
    Its called being a father. I love the job its my proudest job I have or ever will have and means more to me than any other job out there. And better yet I do it for free and love it. Never expect to be compensated for it either and know there are plenty others out there who feel the same way.
    Again I think teachers are great. Some are underpaid (maybe most). It is a noble profession. [=}=]

    November 21, 2008 at 7:10 pm #523259 Back to Top REPORT
    pabowhunter4life
    PABowhunter4life

    Joined: 3/20/2005

    EVERY athlete in EVERY sport is overpaid and that’s all there is to it. People get $60 million deals out of college and hit the NFL and flop, same goes with all the other sports as well. Yes, they have great determination and great skills, but they don’t deserve what they get paid. They know what they are sacrificing in each game, they know the risks. IF they “truly love the game” like so many of them say then they would play it for $x / hr. and if they didn’t perform well at their job they should get fired, just like anyone on here.

    Teachers mold our children and make $25k a year, the president runs the country and makes $250k a year, yet an illiterate drug dealer makes $50 million a year because he can jump and put a ball through a hoop. Ava can do that now at 11 months, nothing impressive about it at all.[/quote:oi9d74qw]

    There are thousands upon thousands of jobs teaching and even more that are willing to teach or capable of teaching thus they don’t make much. The harder, more technical the job, the less people able or willing to do a job the higher the pay checks. IE lawyers, doctors, accountants, ceos, cfos, etc… many would love to do those jobs few would be able to do it or willing to spend the time to study to do such or move up ladder… professional sports are same way.
    I do agree that their money should not be guaranteed especially rookies as there are too many busts who make millions…

    And I wouldn’t call professional athletes illiterate drug dealers… like calling all white men without hair neo nazis… [-X

    :p[/quote:oi9d74qw]

    I’m not saying they are ALL illiterate drug dealers, but A LOT of them were brother :thumbup

    November 22, 2008 at 12:03 am #523260 Back to Top REPORT
    tangy003
    tangy003

    Joined: 5/28/2005

    Paid way too much. [/quote:23f6mwl8]

    I agree. [=}=]

    November 22, 2008 at 12:44 am #523261 Back to Top REPORT
    vtmtnman
    vtmtnman

    Joined: 5/8/2008
    I voted Yes.. If I say My Feelings, I’d Be band from the INTERNET [=}=]

    x2 [=}=]

    November 22, 2008 at 3:49 am #523262 Back to Top REPORT

    acc371

    Joined: 8/19/2004
    I work in Social Work! Teachers are over paid too & get a 3 month vacation! :p
    They don’t have to worry about CEUs. They have inservices.
    Don’t even get me started on Pro Athletes & Hollywood! :smt11
    j/k! [=}=]
    November 22, 2008 at 7:14 pm #523263 Back to Top REPORT
    varmint
    varmint

    Joined: 6/25/2004
    I think they get paid too much…………………way too much!!

    But,in all reality,it is OUR fault.

    Heck,I think I get paid too much for what I do(over $30.00 per hour straight time,and I work a 60 hour week,so another 20 hours at time and a half),but I’m not gonna say..”No,Please don’t pay me this much,I think you should cut my pay in half.”People will take what you give them,myself included,which isn’t always what they’re worth………. [=}=]

    November 22, 2008 at 7:21 pm #523264 Back to Top REPORT
    thehammer
    TheHammer

    Joined: 12/6/2005
    I voted Yes.. If I say My Feelings, I’d Be band from the INTERNET [=}=]

    We would be lost without you…. :p

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