Three of us in my hunting group are hoping for a single cam 32-34â€ł ATA 340 fps IBO offering this year. We have been ready to buy for a couple of years but the product we wanted wasnâ€™t there. We have collectively shopped the market and if the single cam offering does not materialize, we will go to two cams and that opens the field up completely. There are several two cam bows out there now that fit the performance/string angle profile we are looking for, so weâ€™ll see what happens in November.
Aren’t you looking at the Z7 Magnum than.Z7MAGNUM CREED PROSTRINGS HHA FIRENOCK CARBON EXPRESS
Joined: 11/19/2008The ZMag is an option. Â On paper the ZMag looks pretty good, in the hand it is awkward at first due to the length of the riser. When it first came out some very bright minds had trouble getting the bow to make advertised poundage and speed. That was a turn-off. I didn’t need a new bow that shot about the same speed as my old bow. Â My local dealer only sold one of those bows and that one was ordered for the customer so we didn’t get to spend any quality time with the bow to really decide how we felt, so…my fi
Joined: 11/19/2008Sorry, had a technical issue. So my friends and I began a vigil for an improved ZMag. That was a few years ago. Now we are reluctant to buy a new ZMag because it has been around long enough to be discontinued. I guess the thought process has become, why buy dated technology? I am definitely not bashing the ZMag. If I ever cross paths with a used one at a good price I will buy it.
Heck I bought a used XT to recreate my black limbed one in lower lbs, now thinking I will have too sell it and wait for another clean one too appear. Took me 3 yrs of regret to find a clean XT, and found a 60lb Prestige. Trouble is I need to drop Prestige dw too so the XT may be up for sale,,,and it has 29.5 dl and Im at 27 and havent been able to locate a cam, and havent been up too my dealer to even TALK about doing anything as my car got totaled in Dec and still fighting insurance.
I would be happy to see a Chill type bow with a longer ATA plus a 340 min. FPS.
When looking for a hunting bow I think the bow must balance all the features one needs. Such as accurate, smooth, quiet and fast.
try the MR7
If you like speed, Mathews has improved over the years.Â If you like a smooth drawing, accurate, easy to shoot, quiet hunting bow then bring back the SBXT.Â Mathews has not made a bow that makes you say “WOW” since the XT.Â Of course neither has any other bow manufacturer.Â Elite is close but the XT remains the king, 7 years later.Well, what some say about the smooth draw, speed, etc. of a 5 – 7 year old technology bow may be true, butÂ there is always the other side of the coin where those say Mathews isn’t leading anymore,Â just following.
I agree, speed sells … unfortunately, the majority of archers are what I’d call “Bow Season Warriors”.Â They don’t shoot competition, they don’t belong to local clubs, they don’t contribute to RM Elk Foundation, Whitetails Unlimited, Turkey Unlimited, etc.. and they have little or no interest in attaining a higher level of skill, form, or accuracy … “I kilt me plenty of Deer” seems to be the mantra.
Also, unfortunately, they are the majority of sales. Face it, we on the Mathews Forum, and some other forums like Archery Learning Center, are probably the top 20% of archers.
And, finally, unfortunately, as a business you have to market to the majority … salesÂ volume is King, and Business Survival. So, Speed sells …
I just hope Matt has something up his sleeve for us dedicated bowhunters and archers, not just the idiot$ on opening day.A lot of you guys that want longer at a length should look at the monster MR7, or MR6. My MR 7 is a tack driver and is super fast! Â And imo the back wall is fairly solid. I love the valley of my monster as well. I’m new to the bow world, but thinking back to an interview with Matt McPherson and Christian Burk on Peterson’s Bowhunting radio on April 15 of 2010 said that although there are good properties of both carbon and aluminum Matt said that aluminum offers better building foundation as far as riser design goes, compared to carbon. And I agree with that also. Whoever said that Mathews isn’t leading the archery world in innovation and design, and technology is dead wrong and sorely mistaken. Just my opinion though. I like the fact that Matt and the Mathews team takes their time in development and testing to ensure their products ars top shelf, it sais a lot about a company. I love the creed and I am seriously thinking about getting it depending on what comes out in November.Â
Joined: 7/12/2004I have no idea but I’d still like to see a 32″ ATA, Â 7″ brace height version of the Helium, with a 330 IBO. Or a 32.5″ version Â of the Chill. Basically just a couple inches longer ATA.
I’m very curious if the split limb single cam stays.
Joined: 1/22/2009I like GJ’S thought on the riser?Â Â I will change my ideal bowÂ HeliMÂ XT 28Â ATAÂ (Tech Strand Thermoplastics riser) DXTÂ Cam
Location: Ohio1. I would like to see the Helim offered in brace height around 6″, which should boost the bows performance to 340 fps or so.
2. I would like to see the Chill’s performance improved upon if possible.
3. The MR6 and MR7…the only thing I would like to see is a reduction in physical weight, down to 4lbs or less…
….Â and possibly the addition of a reverse assist roller guard (but not at the expense of fps)
Hopefully Matt and the engineers at Mathews have improved the 2014 lineÂ beyond my expectations and in ways I haven’t even dreamed of.
1. I would like to see the Helim offered in brace height around 6â€ł, which should boost the bows performance to 340 fps or so.
2. I would like to see the Chillâ€™s performance improved upon if possible.
3. The MR6 and MR7â€¦the only thing I would like to see is a reduction in physical weight, down to 4lbs or lessâ€¦
â€¦.and possibly the addition of a reverse assist roller guard (but not at the expense of fps)
Hopefully Matt and the engineers at Mathews have improved the 2014 linebeyond my expectations and in ways I havenâ€™t even dreamed of.
If that Helim would be 32″ ata that’d be sweet.
- This reply was modified 3 months, 1 week ago by Chappy.
Joined: 9/29/2011I agree with Chappy 32″ would fit me just right. Also an integral grip with walnut inlays like the safari. My dream bow for sure.
David Clayton Harrison
Joined: 2/27/2010A real fast , real accurate, real smooth, Â real quiet light bow with no hand shock!God gives us only so much time on earth, don't waste it. Jesus blood washes sins away, just pray.
Joined: 2/20/2005When Mathews decides to build a 35″-36″ ATA hunting bow they’ll very likely get my $$ again.Â Several years ago they came out with the Prestige – time for an updated, longer riser, parallel limbed version.
Until then, there are other companies that have thatÂ area covered.
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