For 2014 what do you think Matt has up his sleeve.

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  • August 18, 2013 at 8:31 pm #590582 Back to Top REPORT
    biscuit
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    Who wrote the song about feelings? Something like feelings nothing more than feelings.
    August 18, 2013 at 8:54 pm #590586 Back to Top REPORT
    hotshot
    Hotshot

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    Come on guys….one of the many things I like about this forum is no bashing.
    Dont bring yourself down.

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    August 18, 2013 at 9:01 pm #590589 Back to Top REPORT
    chappy
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    Chappy Said: “I disagree. The Zmag is 61/2 or so bh and getting aroung 340. That’s with the same draw as the z7. I prefer the Helim draw to the Chill and it’s even faster. A 6″bh Helim would be a shootable hunting bow which is what I’m looking for. Some can handle a bow like this, apparantly you can’t”. 

    Like I noted, some people can understand bow design, some can’t. Apparently you didnt read my post well in the compairison of Solo Cam bows and other designs. As what you pointed out was exactly my point. And, I can handle my bow very well thank you.

    Someone is thin skinned.  My opinion is mine, you don’t have to share it.

    August 19, 2013 at 5:19 am #590621 Back to Top REPORT
    jabber
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    I am wishing for a more quiet version of the Creed !!

    I really like and am a loyal follower of Mathews bows and the Creed for all other ways but respectfully I am not happy about the level of noise my Creed generates, so I wish that it was quieter, even though everyone says it is quiet.  I also have a Helim and that is half as noisy as my Creed.

    Regarding quiet bows, I was shooting besides a guy with a Hoyt carbon element yesterday and let me tell you, that bow was super quiet – that was a real eye opener and there may be one of those in my future if Mathews does not improve in this area.

    August 19, 2013 at 10:05 am #590672 Back to Top REPORT
    bow-drawn
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    The only solocam in the Mathews line up that struggles to make 340 fps is the Z7 Magnum. There are no solocam “hunting bows” in the Mathews line up over 32″ ATA. There are no solocam ‘hunting bows’ with a DL greater than 30″. 

    I would think it is time for a 34″ ATA Solocam 27″-32″ DL, 50 – 80 lb limbsthat will make 340 fps IBO… then the Z7 Mag could be dropped from the lineup.

    That would go on my wish list and a faster and longer version Chill but I wonder what Matt Mc has on his list for this years’ debutantes.  The Z7 Mag probably needs to be upgraded some with a new bow.

    August 19, 2013 at 10:25 am #590684 Back to Top REPORT
    vash
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    haha..this thread derailed rather friendly like.  it never ends well, when someone starts posting up their bow resume. :)

    i have no clue what they are gonna come out with..cant wait to see.  i am bow shopping this year…i dont know which manufacturer i am going with..it is anyone’s game at this point.  my wife is on board!!

    August 19, 2013 at 11:52 am #590727 Back to Top REPORT
    jaybirdm
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    For Hunting:
    I would like to see a solo cam approx. 33in ATA.
    No Draw stop giving better valleys for hunting.(Sometimes in hunting situations you may be holding for a while. If you blink or relax with the Helium or the Creed it will contract on you. The old LX had the best Draw stop with some valley.)

    Round cam like the Switchback, Drenalin, etc for the gradual build up and smoothness.
    333 + but with 7.5 brace height. (Clothing clearance and forgiveness)
    3.5 pounds.

    Very satified with the Bows I have now. But if that bow appears, I will be on it.

    August 19, 2013 at 12:51 pm #590738 Back to Top REPORT
    vash
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    For Hunting:
    I wouldlike to see a solo cam approx. 33in ATA.
    No Draw stop giving better valleys for hunting.(Sometimes in hunting situations you may be holding for a while. If you blink or relax with the Helium or the Creed it will contract on you. The old LX had the best Draw stop with some valley.) 

    Round cam like the Switchback, Drenalin, etc for the gradual build up and smoothness.
    333 + but with 7.5 brace height. (Clothing clearance and forgiveness)
    3.5 pounds.

    Very satified with the Bows I have now. But if that bow appears, I will be on it.

    ^^^ that would be nice!!  i miss my SBXT.  that thing was so forgiving.   should’ve  kept it.

    August 19, 2013 at 12:52 pm #590739 Back to Top REPORT
    vash
    vash

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    heck…just update the “look” of an old SBXT for 2014..and i’ll buy it :D
    August 19, 2013 at 3:35 pm #590782 Back to Top REPORT

    Stringjumper

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    Like many people have said, I hope he has a 32-34″ single cam hunting bow so  those of us with a “not-so Napoleanesque” stature can have a reasonable string angle, a 7-7 1/2″ brace height, shooting 330-ish, with a TRULY smooth draw (like the Q2- Switchback series of 2000-2006) that has a seamless transition into the valley (no dump), a solid back wall, but not a jumpy cam 1/4″ from said back wall, with less vibration and noise at the shot…..Oh, and a “Purdy” cap to go with it.

    Sounds like “a few” of us want this bow….I’ve waited several years for it…..
    ‘Remember this video…..
    http://mathewsinc.com/product/creed/#99853

    I hope Matt “hears” us THIS year!!

    August 20, 2013 at 9:01 am #590950 Back to Top REPORT
    bomber34
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    Heli M  XT    28 inch ATA  Carbon Riser   DXT  cam.
    August 20, 2013 at 4:21 pm #591052 Back to Top REPORT

    Stringjumper

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    …..or a bow that is 20″  ATA!! Imagine the string angle on THAT one! We could call the cam the “Straightline cam” because the string angle is so acute…..wait…that name’s already taken……{#emotions_dlg.mathews_rolling_eyes}

    Sorry folks….It’s been a long day!

    I really doubt Mr. McPherson will make a bow with a carbon riser, but you never know….We’ve been surprised before!!

    The revamped Switchy sounds good to me, with a slightly more aggressive cam to squeak out 328-332fps……with no “dump!”

    August 20, 2013 at 7:24 pm #591088 Back to Top REPORT
    gjarcher
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    … I really doubt Mr. McPherson will make a bow with a carbon riser, but you never know…

    The riser is an area that could really use some improvement to get the weight down. These beyond parallel limb bows have a Louisville Slugger for a riser, weight is way too much to pack around. Carbon is one way to reduce the weight and improve vibration dampening, but some of the injection molded thermoplastics are even better, the new stuff can even be powder coated. {#emotions_dlg.mathews_shocked}

    Another area that could use some innovation is the limb materials. Limbs have been made out of thermoset glass composites for decades. Now Gordon Ind. has a new line of TechStrand thermoplastics, tough enough to use as armor in Humvees, but lighter weight than regular composites. AeroStrand is now being made in a new plant near Denver, lighter weight, tougher, continuous fiber instead random oriented fibers in a resin matrix. I think there might be some advantages … lower Virtual Mass, better vibration dampening, higher elastic modulus, quicker time to recover from deflection … might pick up some speed and help get weight down. {#emotions_dlg.typotux}

    August 21, 2013 at 7:16 am #591126 Back to Top REPORT

    Stringjumper

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    Good points GJArcher!

    I also believe that Matt will go the thermoplastic route….As you know, many fly rod companies have been using 3M thermoplastic resin to bond/strengthen their blanks for the past several years—G. Loomis, St. Croix, Hardy, etc.
    IF Matt goes away from an aluminum riser, he’ll  go with a new, more technologically advanced material, to “one-up” the competition. That material will have to retain the strength qualities of aluminum (no flex, as to retain as much efficiency as possible), less weight, and have better dampening characteristics, as you pointed out.

    August 21, 2013 at 10:29 am #591179 Back to Top REPORT
    bobbor76
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    It’s already been decided. He’s making  a 34″   Creed.  {#emotions_dlg.mathews_thumbs_up} Just hope he sells them to you guys as well.  {#emotions_dlg.mathews_liar}{#emotions_dlg.mathews_laughing}
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