Fletching, type, and Why?????

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  • February 11, 2008 at 3:26 pm #518067 Back to Top REPORT
    hunterdog
    Hunterdog

    Joined: 1/5/2008
    I switched from 4″ vanes to Blazers when I used a Whisker Bisquit as they were more durable and stabilize my Montecs better. :thumbup
    February 11, 2008 at 3:38 pm #518068 Back to Top REPORT
    goldtipxt00
    GoldTipXT00

    Joined: 3/5/2006
    Blazers [=}=]
    February 11, 2008 at 4:41 pm #518069 Back to Top REPORT



    Joined: 5/24/2004
    I’m thinking of switching away from Blazers. I think I was having a problem where they were hitting on my riser sometimes. Every once in a while I would see my arrow go down range kind of funny. So I switch to 4″ feather and I’ve never had that problem. I know the Blazers are a little wider.

    Anyone else have that problem?

    February 11, 2008 at 4:45 pm #518070 Back to Top REPORT
    fats
    Fats

    Joined: 6/27/2005
    Location: In the evening shadow of oona-pa'is
    I use Blazers… I drank the a while ago and have had good results with them. I shot Duravanes at first and they worked well. I only switched because I was wanting to try something new for the sake of curiosity.

    [=}=]

    February 11, 2008 at 4:49 pm #518071 Back to Top REPORT
    rem270
    Rem270

    Age: 43
    Joined: 2/2/2005

    I use Blazers because they are lighter than most standard veins giving you a lighter arrow and a higher FOC. They steer like a feather but are quieter and more durable. They have also improved my accuracy with fixed heads, even in wind, if fletched at a one degree offset out to and including 70 yards. They do everything I want out of a vein and then some :thumbup

    My thought exactly. :thumbup[/quote:2rm6e5y6]

    :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup

    February 11, 2008 at 5:03 pm #518072 Back to Top REPORT
    camoham
    camoham

    Joined: 9/4/2007
    didnt vote………………

    your not ‘right’ unless you got a whole bucket full of arrows fletched with everything! :thumbup

    for hunting………..ive shot regular, quikspins, blazers. currently i shoot blazers.

    for 3D ive shot reg vanes, quikspins, and feathers. back to regular AAE 4″ vanes for right now.

    dont fight the madness!

    camoham

    February 11, 2008 at 5:04 pm #518073 Back to Top REPORT
    hansel
    hansel

    Joined: 11/24/2005
    Interesting almost 75% are using Blazer’s :)
    February 11, 2008 at 5:58 pm #518074 Back to Top REPORT
    gjarcher
    gjarcher

    Age: 71
    Joined: 10/3/2006
    Location: Colorado
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    I’m using the Flex Fletch FFP360 with a right helical fletch. I’m in the process of testing other vanes as well and found the FFP360 have the second least drop in speed (7 fps) and the fastest recovery time with the smallest group size at 20yds. Group size is determined by taking 25 shots and recording only the 12 best shots as a filter to remove shooter error. Two groups of 25 arrows were shot then the results averaged. This is a standard method used to measure weapons accuracy in the military, called a Circular Error Probable (CEP).

    The Blazers at 2º offset, as recommended by Bohning, had the second most speed loss as determined by averaging 5 shots through a chronograph at 6′ and then at 20 yds. From the speed drop, a drag profile was heuristically fitted and speed was predicted at 40 yds and wind drift in a 10mph crosswind was predicted at 60 yds. When weather allows, I will shot through the chrongraph at 40 yds and 60 yds to measure speed drop and group size and conduct the wind drift tests at 60yds. Several vane manufacturers make claims concerning aerodynamic effect of their vanes to either extend range and/or reduce wind drift, so simple drag profile may not fully describe the ballistic path and must be verified by actual test.[/u:1lf4vzcs]

    The Blazers had terrible variation in weight and height and base not square to the vane. http://www.flexfletch.com/flashvs.htm I checked some Blazers and the results were in line with the link. I weighed the Blazers individually and found that the White varied from 5.85 – 6.1 gr, the Black from 5.78 – 6.1 gr, and the Orange to be very uniform at 6.0 gr. When checking the vane-base angle, the Orange Blazers were the most uniform. Since I only had a small sample to test, the variations might be dependent on Lot# and not color, but it is evident Bohning QC is not tight (see image below showing base-vane angle variation, on the right are 3 FFP360).

    I selected three identical Blazer vanes that weighed 6 gr/each with good vane-base angle for testing, so that the test results wouldn’t be screwed by vane inconsistency. I have requested some Flex Fletch Flash vanes to include in the testing, but they have not yet arrived.

    I thank Jeff K in IL and KILL EM ALL[/b:1lf4vzcs] who sent me some Blazers for the tests. Also I thank Paul Morris of Starrflight for sending me the FOBs and Bowhntr22 for sending me the Bi-Delta 3D/Hunter vanes.

    All testing is done with a Drenalin 67.3# 28.5″ and Victory VForce V1 400 shafts cut to 29″ AMO and 125 gr FP and RM Ti 125 fixed-blade Broadhead[/size:1lf4vzcs].


    February 11, 2008 at 6:28 pm #518075 Back to Top REPORT
    gjarcher
    gjarcher

    Age: 71
    Joined: 10/3/2006
    Location: Colorado
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    … if fletched at a one degree offset out to and including 70 yards. They do everything I want out of a vein and then some :thumbup

    I agree with the 1º offset ;)

    I contacted Bohning and confirmed they recommend 2º, so that is the offset being used for testing. If the test results prove bad, which is what I expect based on past experience, I’ll have to redo the test with a 1º offset.

    We recommend a 2° offset for the Blazer Vanes.

    Tanya Musselman
    EDI Coordinator
    Bohning Company, Ltd.
    231-229-4247, ext. 107
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    February 11, 2008 at 6:35 pm #518076 Back to Top REPORT
    blood-bath2006
    Blood Bath2006

    Joined: 10/14/2006

    … if fletched at a one degree offset out to and including 70 yards. They do everything I want out of a vein and then some :thumbup

    I agree with the 1º offset [/color:3u1s5nu3];)

    I contacted Bohning and confirmed they recommend 2º, so that is the offset being used for testing. If the test results prove bad, which is what I expect based on past experience, I’ll have to redo the test with a 1º offset.

    We recommend a 2° offset for the Blazer Vanes.

    Tanya Musselman
    EDI Coordinator
    Bohning Company, Ltd.
    231-229-4247, ext. 107
    [/quote:3u1s5nu3][/quote:3u1s5nu3]

    OH YEAH!!! Brian agreed with me!! I smart :cap2 :cap5 :cap33

    February 11, 2008 at 6:54 pm #518077 Back to Top REPORT
    gjarcher
    gjarcher

    Age: 71
    Joined: 10/3/2006
    Location: Colorado
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    …I smart …[/quote:lfkfq9rs]
    In sailor language, ‘smart’ is only half a word … you dummy :^O

    February 11, 2008 at 7:23 pm #518078 Back to Top REPORT
    blood-bath2006
    Blood Bath2006

    Joined: 10/14/2006

    …I smart …[/quote:3oranzew]
    In sailor language, ‘smart’ is only half a word … you dummy :^O[/quote:3oranzew]

    Didn’t want to get a strike :D :whistle

    February 17, 2008 at 1:13 pm #518079 Back to Top REPORT



    Joined: 5/24/2004

    I’ve used both feathers and Blazers, but I’m currently using 4” feathers because they tuned best.
    I would like to have a cool looking wrap with blazers[/color:1yx66jml], but I’ll take tune over flash.[/quote:1yx66jml]

    I kept at it until I got what I wanted ;) . Blazers with a wrap are the fletching of choice. :thumbup

    February 17, 2008 at 2:10 pm #518080 Back to Top REPORT
    iowaswitchback
    IowaSwitchback

    Joined: 11/26/2005
    Location: Guess!
    I use most of what you listed but perfer feathers over any of them.
    February 17, 2008 at 2:25 pm #518081 Back to Top REPORT
    crimson-tide
    Crimson Tide

    Joined: 7/24/2007
    QuickSpin ST speed Hunters. They work great for me.

    [=}=] x2
    I only tested with Blazers and QS Speed Hunter STs and my testing wasn’t quite in the same league as Brian’s (sort of like the difference between a stick and a string and a Dren :D ) but the QSs flew the best for me with my setup.

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