First time tuning. paper tuning problem

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  • January 27, 2013 at 8:34 am #497853 Back to Top REPORT

    ko1featherweigh

    Joined: 1/16/2013
    Quick background. Ive been shooting since i was 16 (now 24) and my previous bows have been set up by the shop and tuned by the shop.
    Now i just recently bought a Helim and attempting to tune it myself. So far i have only gotten as far as paper tuning and that is where i am stuck. when paper tuning i get a nock left tear. i did a little research and saw i was using underspined arrows. I now have proper spined arrows but my problem is that my arrows are still tearing nock left. and my rest is move nearly all the way to the right(towards the riser on a right hand bow).

    What do you guys recommend i do next? my next move was going to be to walk back tune but i wanted to see what others suggested. i know i can bring it to a pro shop and get help but i would really like to be able to tune my bow myself.

    Bow Helim
    Draw weight 70lb
    Dral lenght 28.5
    rest QAD ultrarest hdx
    arrows Carbon express Blue streak 350

    January 27, 2013 at 9:24 am #549566 Back to Top REPORT
    straightedge123
    StraightEdge123

    Joined: 10/22/2007
    Two things come to mind. Idler adjustment and hand torque. Check these and see if anything changes
    Mathews S2 / Copper John 4-pin / QAD HD LD / Worlds Best Strings / 808 Bowslings / Easton Bloodlines
    January 28, 2013 at 4:02 am #549567 Back to Top REPORT
    rrigby
    rrigby

    Age: 49
    Joined: 1/12/2013
    Location: IL
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    Check for fetching contact. I use the Ultra Rest with my Helim and had to put the cock vane at about 2 o’clock cause I was hitting the down cable. I prefer putting masking tape on bow, sight and rest then I put bright red lipstick on the edge of each vane. I can see where it hits way easier than using foot powder. I ended up with the rest at 13″/16″ from the riser and I think just about every Helim tunes at just about that setting.
    Good Luck
    Heli 65#'s 29" Easton Carbon Injexion
    January 28, 2013 at 5:18 pm #549568 Back to Top REPORT
    l-o-s-t-arrow
    L.O.S.T.Arrow

    Joined: 5/16/2006
    Location: Alberta
    :D We found That hand torque or bow torque was the biggest culprit to the dreaded left tear…as mentioned above start with arrow centered on berger and arrow 13/16 from riser On center…

    Than concentrate on bow hand placement release and follow thru…

    Practise hand positions below..totally relax bow hand…if necessary to keep bow from swaying with relaxed hand one can tuck your two smallest fingers in lightly against riser instead of the complete open hand…

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    Practise a slow clean release…slowly squeeze release and it should almost be a surprise when it goes off…

    exaggerate the follow thru ..let top of bow fall forward after shot in still relaxed hand…

    We have cured many left tears just by simply following these pointers…

    JMHO
    Neil

    January 28, 2013 at 7:25 pm #549569 Back to Top REPORT
    rrigby
    rrigby

    Age: 49
    Joined: 1/12/2013
    Location: IL
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    Neil is the man listen to him and you will get it right. :thumbup

    He got me squared away once I had the arrow at center of berger hole and at 13″/16″ I was quickly able to determine it was idler wheel and one more question to Neil and I was punching perfect holes. If he says hand torque it most likely is.

    Heli 65#'s 29" Easton Carbon Injexion
    January 28, 2013 at 9:34 pm #549570 Back to Top REPORT

    flag

    Joined: 8/18/2011
    having the draw length a little long can cause a left tear with a right handed shooter but if i going to bet i would agree with neil its torque causing it and it dont take much of it either
    January 28, 2013 at 11:05 pm #549571 Back to Top REPORT
    rrigby
    rrigby

    Age: 49
    Joined: 1/12/2013
    Location: IL
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    Here is my bow getting ready to check for any fletching contact. Thought some of you might get a kick out of this or give it a try. :^O :^O :^O
    Make sure and not tape where the arrow sits on the rest as it screw up arrow flight.

    Heli 65#'s 29" Easton Carbon Injexion
    January 29, 2013 at 1:57 am #549572 Back to Top REPORT
    brad-c
    Brad.C.

    Joined: 12/8/2012
    http://forums.mathewsinc.com/images/userpix/61180_Bow_taped_1.jpg[/img]

    Hey man whatever works. :p :p Does look funny though :^O :^O

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    January 29, 2013 at 3:26 pm #549573 Back to Top REPORT
    l-o-s-t-arrow
    L.O.S.T.Arrow

    Joined: 5/16/2006
    Location: Alberta
    :^O ..Another good use for masking tape is stick a bunch of thumb tacks thru a piece and put it on the front of the bow on grip,,,that will absolutely stop the gripping issue while shooting… :^O

    Neil

    January 29, 2013 at 6:58 pm #549574 Back to Top REPORT

    NDS

    Joined: 1/17/2013

    :^O ..Another good use for masking tape is stick a bunch of thumb tacks thru a piece and put it on the front of the bow on grip,,,that will absolutely stop the gripping issue while shooting… :^O

    Neil[/quote:1p6moh1p]

    Think I’ll give that a try on my Dad’s bow and see how it works :D

    January 31, 2013 at 7:37 am #549575 Back to Top REPORT

    ko1featherweigh

    Joined: 1/16/2013
    Neil that helped a bunch! last two days ive been shooting through paper concentrating on not torquing the bow. took most of the tears away, But now im noticing fletching contact. rrigby called it. i guess i’m going to tape up my bow tomorrow.
    February 5, 2013 at 8:38 pm #549576 Back to Top REPORT

    CHAS

    Joined: 1/30/2008
    http://forums.mathewsinc.com/images/userpix/61180_Bow_taped_1.jpg[/img]

    do you shoot in a paint booth?? :^O :^O

    gotta say, i’m going to try it also :D

    February 5, 2013 at 9:08 pm #549577 Back to Top REPORT
    spurhunter
    spurhunter

    Joined: 1/31/2008
    Or you could just use a whisker biscuit…..

    at least that’s what I always hear. :D

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