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  • January 27, 2014 at 12:58 pm #616876 Back to Top REPORT
    ikedogg
    Ikedogg

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    I’ve been hearing a limb driven rest is the best way to go. I’m a week or so away from order my ChillR and want to see what you guys are using. I’d like to go with QAD ultra or the Rip Cord Red. What do you professionals suggest.

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    January 27, 2014 at 2:00 pm #616895 Back to Top REPORT
    99fatboy
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    I would go with the limbdriver pro v, trophy taker smackdown or the new g5 rest that looks very similar to the pro v. You can use a cable operated rest as long as the timing is altered to compensate for the tension of the cord.
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    January 27, 2014 at 4:16 pm #616898 Back to Top REPORT
    bow-drawn
    Bow Drawn

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    The limb driven rest types have the timing cord going to the upper limbs and some go to the lower limbs. The G5 cMAX can go to either upper or lower per their instructions.
    January 28, 2014 at 10:06 am #616984 Back to Top REPORT
    indychris
    Indychris

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    I’ve not purchased a Mathews since my Z7 (which I’m still using along with a Mission Ballistic). I use QAD HDX’s on both of those bows. What is it about the design of the ChillR that makes a limb-attached rest better than the cable attachment? {#emotions_dlg.typotux}
    January 28, 2014 at 11:16 am #616993 Back to Top REPORT
    ikedogg
    Ikedogg

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    I’m wondering the same thing why would a limb driven rest be better than a QAD I use a QAD Ultra HD on Omen 2012 which I have no problems. And that bow will still be faster than my ChillR

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    January 28, 2014 at 1:11 pm #617011 Back to Top REPORT
    99fatboy
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    As with any 2 cam system, it is valuable to keep anything out of the cables that can affect cam synchronization. It is most critical with binary and other systems that are slaved together, such as the avs system of the MR , chill, ballistic and blaze bows. As said earlier, cable driven rests can be used if setup is compensated for it.and this is not to offend anyone but, sometimes, unless you are really consistent in your shot routine, you may never know the difference.
    black z7 magnum,tommy hogg,qad,b-stingers, vaportrail: blue smoke triumph,sword,hamskae,b-stingers:desert tactical chill R, tommy hogg,limbdriver pro v,ktech
    January 28, 2014 at 7:07 pm #617065 Back to Top REPORT
    indychris
    Indychris

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    As with any 2 cam system, it is valuable to keep anything out of the cables that can affect cam synchronization. It is most critical with binary and other systems that are slaved together, such as the avs system of the MR , chill, ballistic and blaze bows. As said earlier, cable driven rests can be used if setup is compensated for it.and this is not to offend anyone but, sometimes, unless you are really consistent in your shot routine, you may never know the difference.

    An engineer I ain’t so you’ll have to excuse my slow comprehension. How does having something attached to one limb or the other differ from being attached to one cable or another? My non-engineering brain would think that having a cable attached to a limb would create extra resistance which would change timing as well. {#emotions_dlg.typotux}

    January 28, 2014 at 8:14 pm #617089 Back to Top REPORT
    99fatboy
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    Not in the least, it’s the effective length of the cables that are directly related to cam sync. When you pull on one more than the other, even slightly, this can effect sync. The beauty of the limb driven system is, there is no pull or pressure on anything. The activation cord is just pulled snug from limb to rest by hand and tightened. When the bow is drawn, the cable goes slack and the spring in the rest brings the launcher arm up to the ready position, at the shot, the limb pulls the arm down out of the way and the arrow is on its way. Keep in mind that the spring only has enough tension on it to overcome the weight of the arrow. I believe the limbdriver website has a video of setup and action of their rests. It’s a very simple system.
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    February 13, 2014 at 8:25 am #619352 Back to Top REPORT
    kdciii
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    Just Ordered my Chill R Yesterday wit QAD HD
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    February 26, 2014 at 6:39 pm #620720 Back to Top REPORT

    triumph

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    I really never had a problem with a qad on a dual cam system, So I have a black hdx ready for my chill r on order.
    February 26, 2014 at 7:06 pm #620731 Back to Top REPORT
    drenleg1
    drenleg1

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    My dealer recommends a QAD HD or Ripcord on this bow.  He doesn’t sell a limbdriven rest and I’ve never used one so I can’t speak intelligently about a Limbdriver except I’ve heard quite a few around here that like them.
    60lb Reezen 7.0 LH maxed @ 61lbs. Beman ICS Hunter 340 w/blazers, 125 grain Rocket Steelhead, QAD Pro Hunter rest.
    April 3, 2014 at 11:14 pm #624530 Back to Top REPORT
    j-daddy
    J-Daddy

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    I’ve used the QAD HDX on a number of hybrid cam bows with no ill effect…A rest like the QAD, when setup & timed right, puts very little tension on a cable…Now if it’s setup wrong and coming up way to early it’ll pull the cable a lot, but if installed correctly it’s not an issue. I’ve shot limb driven rests a lot, they work well…But in the past year or so I’ve went back to rests like the QAD HDX and the Ripcord Code Red and had good results with them.
    April 4, 2014 at 5:02 am #624535 Back to Top REPORT
    99fatboy
    99fatboy

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    If you put one on a draw board, you will see what happens when using a cable driven rest. As stated, proper setup will MINIMIZE the effect, but there is still the need for slight tweaking of the timing to get absolute sync. I have used QAD rests for several years on all of my single cam hunting bows, but my chillR has a limbdriver pro v on it. Very simple setup, not a bunch of internal parts, very light weight and very well built. The biggest thing is, it shoots great with no influence on timing.
    black z7 magnum,tommy hogg,qad,b-stingers, vaportrail: blue smoke triumph,sword,hamskae,b-stingers:desert tactical chill R, tommy hogg,limbdriver pro v,ktech
    April 4, 2014 at 9:03 am #624537 Back to Top REPORT
    bow-drawn
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    If you put one on a draw board, you will see what happens when using a cable driven rest. As stated, proper setup will MINIMIZE the effect, but there is still the need for slight tweaking of the timing to get absolute sync. I have used QAD rests for several years on all of my single cam hunting bows, but my chillR has a limbdriver pro v on it. Very simple setup, not a bunch of internal parts, very light weight and very well built. The biggest thing is, it shoots great with no influence on timing.

    The Vapor Trail Lmbdriver Pro V is what I would recommend. Like quoted above by 99 this rest does not affect the cables nor timing on the cams and is straight forward on setup. To me there is no football sliding or wearing on the cable serving or inserting the timing cord into the cable. No bow press is needed.  Simple adjustment if needed when the timing cord stretches out and they all do and that affects the launching arm. And setting up your center shot is easy. The newer Pro V is pretty quiet too compared to a QAD.

    For my Z7 Magnum solo cam I put on the Rip Cord SOS rest and it’s working fine and dandy.

    P.S. I tried the G5 Cmax and if they improve it then it should work.

    April 4, 2014 at 11:56 am #624559 Back to Top REPORT
    gjarcher
    gjarcher

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    Just Ordered my Chill R Yesterday wit QAD HD

    Then I’d recommend after paper tuning and walk back tuning that you also Creep Tune. Creep Tuning is a quick and easy way to check cam sync, although a bow press is required to make any cable adjustments. While some don’t seem to have any problems, there are plenty of complaints on Archery Talk about ‘untunable’ AVS bows and ‘mushy’ back walls. Both are a symptom of cams out of synch.
    http://unofficialatfaq.tripod.com/creep_tuning.htm

    When I shot a QAD on my Monster AVS system, I had to slightly advance the top cam to eliminate the vertical spread caused by variance in how hard or not hard I pulled into the wall. I had the QAD adjusted to come up in the last 1/8″ of draw, since if you creep more than an 1/8th of an inch, you’ll need dental work to get the riser removed…setting the QAD for 1/2″ isn’t necessary on the cams with short valleys. After creep tuning, broadhead tuning became much easier, and more forgiving. The QAD worked fine once the bow timing was set by Creep Tuning, the wall was rock solid, and since I was using ACC 3-71 shafts there were no containment issues. I killed two Bulls with that setup.
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    I now shoot a Trophy Taker Smackdown Pro FC on the Monster set for lower limb actuation. I still Creep Tune, but now both cams are dead center in the timing window, no timing compensation required. I switched from the QAD not only because using the down cable effectively short cabled (advanced) the bottom cam, but the QAD containment would not reliably hold the super-skinny Victory VAP shafts (.239″ o.d.). Although I miss the QAD letdown feature, I much prefer having a reliable containment for spot-n-stalk and when the bow is in my lap in the treestand…two seasons ago I missed a 5×5 Bull coming at me on a trot because I was slowed down getting the VAP shaft that had slipped out reloaded, ended up being slightly too late, stuck a tree in the right edge of the shooting lane, and ended up going dry that season. This season I had a 5×4 blow by me so fast that I hardly could get to my feet, twist around the tree trunk, and get the pins on him, I never had to give a thought as to whether or not the arrow came up on the launcher correctly; it had … Goodbye QAD, Hello Smackdown.
    With QAD:
    Elk2012 001a

    With TT Smackdown:
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    The QAD is a good rest with good features. It does have its downside as well as upside. Like all cable actuated rests, any work done on the cable often requires reinstalling the actuating cord, which usually gets twisted around the cable unless a ‘football’ clamp is used, and retiming the rest … limb driven rests are not affected by any cable work, such as resetting bow to specs.

    The Ripcord is also a good rest. My dealer much prefers the Ripcord Code Red over the QAD HD … to me, there isn’t that much difference. I don’t think you can go wrong with either, but to get a rock solid back wall and consistent elevation/POI, and less frustration broadhead tuning, you should Creep Tune.

    … hope this helps. {#emotions_dlg.mathews_peace}

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