Dismal review of the Creed in Field and Stream.

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  • August 30, 2013 at 9:44 am #592694 Back to Top REPORT
    karoo
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    Danny Hinton
    Owner of Hinton Archery in Murray, Ky.: Never shy with an opinion, Hinton has shot and sold virtually every bow line on the market.

    Check out hintonarchery website.
    It only has 2 links on the page
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    2.Under armour

    Real unbias reporting    {#emotions_dlg.mathews_shame_on_you}

    August 30, 2013 at 9:49 am #592696 Back to Top REPORT
    zxtok
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    Field & Stream doesn’t do the testing. A dealer does it and gives them the results to post. I won’t get into details but that sabotage was intentional.

    I’ve never been a fan of the testing posted by Field & Stream or Outdoor Life for that matter. Even when Mathews comes in first, the tests are conducted by people using equipment and techniques they don’t fully understand.

    I miss Norb Mullaney.

    vince…in this case, three of the four people doing the testing forField and Stream worked for F&S …an editor, assistant editor and a F&S contributor… one archery dealer joined these 3 for a total of 4 individuals doing the testing.

    Here is what F&S wrote about thepaneldoing thetesting…

    The Test Panel
    Scott Bestul

    F&S field editor: At 52, I represent the geriatric demographic. But with age comes experience; I have been shooting bows for 40 years.
    Will Brantley
    F&S contributor: A deadeye, veteran bowhunter, and a 3D shooter, he loses all his Southern charm when reviewing hunting gear.
    Danny Hinton
    Owner of Hinton Archery in Murray, Ky.: Never shy with an opinion, Hinton has shot and sold virtually every bow line on the market.
    Dave Hurteau
    F&S deputy editor: Hurteau has tested more compound bows in an objective fashion than anyone I know, and he doesn’t mind telling you what he really thinks.
    http://www.fieldandstream.com/articles/hunting/2013/08/fs-crowns-best-flagship-compound-bow-2013

    Regardless the age, experience, the deadeye, the charm, or objective fashion,  to review the Creed as having vibration and being loud is just silly.  I have shot many, own one, and seen many more shot, and haven’t seen one yet that I would consider anything but impressively quiet.  If you publicy attach your name to derogatory statements about the products you sell, what do you expect to happen.  If they are an inferior bow, then they shouldn’t be upset about  not selling them in the future.

    • This reply was modified 7 months, 3 weeks ago by zxtok ZXTOK.
    August 30, 2013 at 10:26 am #592706 Back to Top REPORT
    vash
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    i think i chose my current Z7 because of some review i read somewhere.  (outdoor life, maybe).

    reviews are taken seriously by the public.  this is gonna leave a mark.

    i honestly wonder how many folks here would chime in with the same comments, IF the same (two) bows got glowing reviews.  would anyone still say?, “oh..forget that review. those guys dont know anything”.

    in the end, this will also be forgotten..like a movie review :)

    August 30, 2013 at 11:28 am #592719 Back to Top REPORT
    mystro
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    I agree….The troubling issue is why now, after all the glowing Mathews reviews over the years did these two bows bomb??  I dont think dismissing the review is necessarily the answer. Love or hate Field and Steam, it is a major publication and will reach alot of potential new bow buyers.  A bad review is a bad review and it is a issue to be questioned.

    • This reply was modified 7 months, 3 weeks ago by mystro Mystro.
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    August 30, 2013 at 4:58 pm #592750 Back to Top REPORT
    straightedge123
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    Not sure if these guys shot the same bow that I and countless other customers have or not.  Maybe it was a blindfolded test.

    Does anyone really read Field and Stream anymore?  Or for that matter, does anyone still subscribe to any magazines any more?

    To say that the Creed is loud or has a lot of vibration is a lie.  I don’t mind calling them out.

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    September 1, 2013 at 10:56 am #592897 Back to Top REPORT
    nc_thin_dawg
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    Not sure if these guys shot the same bow that I and countless other customers have or not. Maybe it was a blindfolded test. 

    Does anyone really read Field and Stream anymore? Or for that matter, does anyone still subscribe to any magazines any more?

    To say that the Creed is loud or has a lot of vibration is a lie. I don’t mind calling them out.

    I’m with you Kevin. I love my DXT but I can hear its faint whisper above the absolute quiet of the Creed. {#emotions_dlg.mathews_wink}

    "Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learnt something from yesterday." John Wayne
    September 2, 2013 at 10:34 am #592987 Back to Top REPORT
    jon-e-law
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    Danny Hinton
    Owner of Hinton Archery in Murray, Ky.: Never shy with an opinion, Hinton has shot and sold virtually every bow line on the market. 

    Check out hintonarchery website.
    It only has 2 links on the page
    1. Bowtech
    2.Under armour

    Real unbias reporting{#emotions_dlg.mathews_shame_on_you}

    And his shop just happened to be the one that set up the bows prior to testing.

    Mr Hinton had an agenda and he played it to the hilt.

    September 2, 2013 at 1:35 pm #593003 Back to Top REPORT
    bigrobc
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    Rumor has it this clown Hinton already knew his Mathews dealer wasnt being renewed, and had it out to bash the bows to begin with. I thought field & stream went outta business long ago. M
    September 2, 2013 at 3:48 pm #593014 Back to Top REPORT
    macolos
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    I saw that last week, and had to laugh. I just concidered the saurce. Same bunch of idiots that can not even shoot a bow with a grip on it. Most of the real archers and writers who are someone, gave great reviews.
    I still always tell people to go shoot them all and let the bow decide. The bow will pick you.
    There is a reason that Mathews outsell’s them all by a bunch.
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    September 3, 2013 at 2:17 pm #593199 Back to Top REPORT
    bow4um
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    September 3, 2013 at 6:05 pm #593224 Back to Top REPORT
    center-punch
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    I thought the comment about the Chill not knowing if it was a hunting bow or a target was just ridiculous I don’t believe Mathews has ever tried to market the Chill as a target bow.
    I would not even consider the Chill if I was looking for a target rig.
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