Dismal review of the Creed in Field and Stream.

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  • August 28, 2013 at 8:39 am #592350 Back to Top REPORT
    mystro
    Mystro

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    This September issue of Field and Stream gave the Creed a dismal review…….
    “By far the loudest bow, and the second slowest. No one liked the grip.  And a first for any Matthews bow we’ve ever tested, there were some vibrations.   We probably shot the Creed more than any bow, disbelieving how poorly it stack up against even the newcomers.  If you’re going to shoot a bow this slow, buy the Elite.”

    I have never seen a bad Mathews review in Field and Stream.  Last year they loved the Helium.  I shot both bows, I liked my Helium better but I didn’t think the Creed was a train wreck.

    The Chill wasn’t much better.

    “We spent some time trying to understand the Chill. The conclusion:  it’s suffered from an identity crisis, it didn’t know if it wants to be a hunting bow or a target bow so it doesn’t do either particularly well.”

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    August 28, 2013 at 8:44 am #592355 Back to Top REPORT
    three08
    three08

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    WOW that sucks!
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    August 28, 2013 at 8:56 am #592358 Back to Top REPORT
    mozartsmusic
    Mozartsmusic

    Age: 64
    Joined: 4/29/2005
    Location: Layton, Utah
    That’s why I don’t take much stock in any of the reviews! When they do a review they always have some agenda! The only reviews I put much faith in are the ones from like you and I that really shoot the bows, and even then what feels and shoots great for me won’t shoot or feel the same to someone else. So the bottom line is shoot everything you can get your hands on and do your own reviews!

    Scott {#emotions_dlg.mathews_nerd}

    That Crazy Old Mormon in Utah! My Bow: Prime Impact 50# @ 29" My Rest: Trophy Ridge "SmackDown" My Sight: Spott Hogg "Hunter"
    August 28, 2013 at 8:56 am #592359 Back to Top REPORT
    blackdog
    BlackDog

    Age: 63
    Joined: 7/21/2004
    Been quite the topic on AT.  Won’t go into all the details here.
    Personally – I only know what I like. We all know that some people prefer Mathews and others don’t, so I don’t worry about it.

    Shoot em all and then decided what works for you. My 2 cents.

    August 28, 2013 at 9:04 am #592360 Back to Top REPORT
    three08
    three08

    Age: 43
    Joined: 3/6/2013
    I never pick a bow with some “review”. I shoot the bows and let them speak for themselves. If you don’t shoot it you don’t know for YOURSELF.
    Arrowafflixtion
    August 28, 2013 at 9:17 am #592365 Back to Top REPORT
    vince71969
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    If anyone thinks that review was done without them knowing they wouldn’t be selling Mathews bows soon, they’re kidding themselves. They had an agenda, plain and simple.

     

    As far as their claim that the Creed was the loudest bow, that’s just an out and out lie. Subjective reviews are one thing but the testing they claimed to do is false. Not only do my numbers show a completely different story in regards to noise and vibration, but so do others:

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    August 28, 2013 at 10:09 am #592374 Back to Top REPORT
    rickym
    RickyM


    Joined: 8/4/2004
    wouldnt trade my 2 creeds for anything out there..
    August 28, 2013 at 10:18 am #592376 Back to Top REPORT
    mystro
    Mystro

    Joined: 8/4/2007
    I found this unusual because Field and Steam have always loved Mathews bows.  For as long as I can remember, the sun rose and set on Mathews bows when being reviewed in Field and Stream.    Somthing significant changed for such a drastic  opinion.
    August 28, 2013 at 10:59 am #592385 Back to Top REPORT
    gjarcher
    gjarcher

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    I demo’d both the Creed and Chill. The F&S review wasn’t my experience, just the contrary.

    Thanks Vince for the dB test results … that is more in line with the Creed that I demo’d.

    I agree, often the reviews are biased by an agenda…the usual agenda is sales or advertising $$. Its an old salesman’s gimmick, detune the product you don’t make a profit margin on, or need to unload from inventory, or don’t get sales volume discounts or advertising contracts … TV sales is the perfect example, a whole bank of TVs will only have a couple that really catch your eye, at least until you start fiddling with the Brightness/Contrast/Hue/Color etc. Bows are no different. Any bow can be setup to be noisey, out of tune, etc. Let the newbie shoot the out of spec, untuned bow, then hand him one that’s been tweaked, and say, “Now try this one”…Bingo! Sale $$$.

    August 28, 2013 at 11:47 am #592406 Back to Top REPORT
    birdx33
    birdx33

    Joined: 8/13/2008
    I actually shot bows at five different shops this year before buying one and and two of the same bows at three.
    The one I bought I shot at two different shops. Just trying to make sure one wasn’t out of tune at one shop compared to another.
    August 28, 2013 at 11:55 am #592407 Back to Top REPORT
    vince71969
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    Field & Stream doesn’t do the testing. A dealer does it and gives them the results to post. I won’t get into details but that sabotage was intentional.

    I’ve never been a fan of the testing posted by Field & Stream or Outdoor Life for that matter. Even when Mathews comes in first, the tests are conducted by people using equipment and techniques they don’t fully understand.

    I miss Norb Mullaney.

    August 29, 2013 at 3:24 am #592506 Back to Top REPORT
    bobbor76
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    Joined: 11/26/2004
    Location: South Dakota
    Always enjoyed Norb’s unbiased reviews.
    August 29, 2013 at 4:25 am #592508 Back to Top REPORT
    mikeday
    mikeday

    Joined: 2/28/2012
    if you like or dislike a bow it up to the individual shooter…the peanut pushers will compare numbers like the noise and the speed etc..but it is going to come down to the shooter…like for me I did not like the Creed (no valley was my only complaint) it was quiet and the grip was much like my z7x  as for the chill it had a mushy wall (not for me)  but it shot great and was quiet

    to each his own

    August 29, 2013 at 12:40 pm #592579 Back to Top REPORT
    alpinespider
    alpinespider

    Joined: 11/12/2012
    Frankly speaking, Field and Stream is an elitist liberal rag of a magazine.  Every time I  have ever picked one up there is some garbage in it about going green, saving the earth or capitulating to some anti-gun/anti-hunting agenda under the guise of compromise or being “reasonable”.  That magazine has a bad agenda and I would suggest that if any of you have subscriptions you cancel them and let them know why.  This review is just another example of how dishonest the magazine is.  Everything about Field and Stream screams John Kerry in camo with a shotgun asking to buy a huntin’ license.
    August 30, 2013 at 8:53 am #592688 Back to Top REPORT

    mathewsmac

    Joined: 7/3/2004
    Location: Ohio

    Field & Stream doesn’t do the testing. A dealer does it and gives them the results to post. I won’t get into details but that sabotage was intentional. 

    I’ve never been a fan of the testing posted by Field & Stream or Outdoor Life for that matter. Even when Mathews comes in first, the tests are conducted by people using equipment and techniques they don’t fully understand.

    I miss Norb Mullaney.

    vince…in this case, three of the four people doing the testing for Field and Stream worked for F&S …an editor, assistant editor and a F&S contributor… one archery dealer joined these 3 for a total of 4 individuals doing the testing.

    Here is what F&S wrote about the panel doing the testing…

    The Test Panel
    Scott Bestul

    F&S field  editor: At 52, I represent the geriatric demographic. But with age  comes experience; I have been shooting bows for 40 years.
    Will Brantley
    F&S  contributor: A deadeye, veteran bowhunter, and a 3D shooter, he loses  all his Southern charm when reviewing hunting gear.
    Danny Hinton
    Owner of Hinton Archery in Murray, Ky.: Never shy with an opinion, Hinton has shot and sold virtually every bow line on the market.
    Dave Hurteau
    F&S  deputy editor: Hurteau has tested more compound bows in an objective  fashion than anyone I know, and he doesn’t mind telling you what he  really thinks.
    http://www.fieldandstream.com/articles/hunting/2013/08/fs-crowns-best-flagship-compound-bow-2013

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