Dealing with a trespasser.

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  • November 14, 2012 at 11:45 am #540285 Back to Top REPORT
    jeff-k-in-il
    Jeff K in IL

    Age: 26
    Joined: 11/1/2005
    Do you have permission to hunt where the stands are located or not? I can not stand trespassers, but you don’t know the whole story it sounds like to me.

    No, we just know the landowner (as I said in one of my two posts; the land that the stand is on, isn’t huntable). Our permission is for the land to the east, and our stand is probably about 50yds east of his. He’s just trying to capitalize on a good spot.

    November 14, 2012 at 11:59 am #540286 Back to Top REPORT

    BOC

    Joined: 6/12/2006
    FWIW My father is an executive at a bank and he is able to grant us permission to hunt on several foreclosed properties the bank has taken back and now owns. These are fields that were to be built into strip malls but with the economy plans fell through and our now picked corn fields and make for some prime goose hunting. Two sides to every story just something to think about……in my situation the bank has the power to grant permission.
    November 14, 2012 at 12:01 pm #540287 Back to Top REPORT

    BOC

    Joined: 6/12/2006
    FWIW My father is an executive at a bank and he is able to grant us permission to hunt on several foreclosed properties the bank has taken back and now owns. These are fields that were to be built into strip malls but with the economy plans fell through and our now picked corn fields and make for some prime goose hunting. Two sides to every story just something to think about……in my situation the bank has the power to grant permission.
    November 14, 2012 at 12:02 pm #540288 Back to Top REPORT

    BOC

    Joined: 6/12/2006
    FWIW My father is an executive at a bank and he is able to grant us permission to hunt on several foreclosed properties the bank has taken back and now owns. These are fields that were to be built into strip malls but with the economy plans fell through and our now picked corn fields and make for some prime goose hunting. Two sides to every story just something to think about……in my situation the bank has the power to grant permission.
    November 14, 2012 at 1:52 pm #540289 Back to Top REPORT
    jeff-k-in-il
    Jeff K in IL

    Age: 26
    Joined: 11/1/2005
    FWIW My father is an executive at a bank and he is able to grant us permission to hunt on several foreclosed properties the bank has taken back and now owns. These are fields that were to be built into strip malls but with the economy plans fell through and our now picked corn fields and make for some prime goose hunting. Two sides to every story just something to think about……in my situation the bank has the power to grant permission.

    Once we find out who it is, we are going to ask him to furnish proof of such. We don’t have a problem with him hunting there, but the landowner does have a problem with the stand being on his property, and not the property that he is intending to hunt.

    November 14, 2012 at 2:12 pm #540290 Back to Top REPORT
    seminole123
    seminole123

    Joined: 11/4/2008
    I recently had a problem with a trespasser on some land that I had permission to hunt for a few weeks. The first hunt that I went on i caught a kid who hunts the property next door tresspassing while I was in the stand and confronted him about it to which he claimed he had permission to be where he was, I called the landowner and it was I thought cleared up. Well a week later I go to check my camera and its missing, and there just so happens to be 5-6 sets of tire tracks that match up with the kids truck right in front of where my camera was set up which is 3-400 yards from the property line. I cant for sure say it was him but it was a reconyx and i have a python cable going through the back of the camera so it wasnt just some “crackhead” as he said it probably was that would have stumbled upon it.

    The strange things about it is I had a ladder stand 100 yards from the camera and it was just ratchet strapped to the tree with no lock but whoever it was didnt take that…When i confronted the kid he was really defensive and to me seemed guilty. I fortunately had insurance on the camera so I will be able to replace it but I can feel your pain with trespassers, they are the scum of the earth and when they steal it makes it that much worse.

    Sorry about the long post!

    November 14, 2012 at 8:25 pm #540291 Back to Top REPORT

    Nolander

    Joined: 12/10/2009
    #-o I feel like you are going out of your way to prove this guy is tress passing. First you tress passed on this guys property to find the stands you don’t have permission to hunt on which is watching a field you don’t have permission to hunt. Deer hunting is hard enuff without putting in all the effort to keep everybody out of all adjoining property. The stand could be the son of the land owner etc. Also taking something down and removing it is called stealing. Is there a line fence dividing the property, and why do you care so much about someone hunting somewhere you have no permission to hunt! :?: Your ulterior motive is obvious.
    November 14, 2012 at 8:46 pm #540292 Back to Top REPORT
    xxholleyxx
    XxHolleyxX

    Joined: 11/18/2008
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    #-o I feel like you are going out of your way to prove this guy is tress passing. First you tress passed on this guys property to find the stands you don’t have permission to hunt on which is watching a field you don’t have permission to hunt. Deer hunting is hard enuff without putting in all the effort to keep everybody out of all adjoining property. The stand could be the son of the land owner etc. Also taking something down and removing it is called stealing. Is there a line fence dividing the property, and why do you care so much about someone hunting somewhere you have no permission to hunt! :?: Your ulterior motive is obvious.

    I think you need to read the post again. He clearly states that he talked to the landowner who said no one has permission to hunt his land and gave permission for him to remove the stand from his land. Out of the goodness of his heart, and giving the tresspasser the benefit of doubt, he left the stand at the base of the tree so he could get his stand back.

    November 14, 2012 at 9:08 pm #540293 Back to Top REPORT
    jeff-k-in-il
    Jeff K in IL

    Age: 26
    Joined: 11/1/2005
    #-o I feel like you are going out of your way to prove this guy is tress passing. First you tress passed on this guys property to find the stands you don’t have permission to hunt on which is watching a field you don’t have permission to hunt. Deer hunting is hard enuff without putting in all the effort to keep everybody out of all adjoining property. The stand could be the son of the land owner etc. Also taking something down and removing it is called stealing. Is there a line fence dividing the property, and why do you care so much about someone hunting somewhere you have no permission to hunt! :?: Your ulterior motive is obvious.

    He is 100% trespassing on one piece of property. This is known for a fact. We have already talked to the landowner about it multiple times, and the landowner just happens to be a gentleman we bailed hay with when I was younger. It is still up in the air whether he is trespassing on the other piece of property. I have to do some legwork to find out who to call on it. If he is walking on our side he is trespassing getting to his stand, and if he is walking the the south treeline, he is trespassing getting to it. And yes, there is a fence to mark the boundary. He can’t come in from the bank property because its so tall and thick.

    The guy we talked to last night admitted to us that he thought the property we hunt and the property the stand is on is owned by the development company that created the subdivision. We assured him that its not.

    November 14, 2012 at 11:50 pm #540294 Back to Top REPORT

    Nolander

    Joined: 12/10/2009
    It is not a 100percent known fact. You only know what the land owner told you, what about his wife? You had to tress pass on the property that you did not have permission to be on to get to the stand to begin with. I know why you are trying to get the guy out of the area but if in fact he does have permission to be there then it seems to me you are bordering on hunter harassment. Contact the IDNR or who ever handles it and keep your self out of trouble.
    November 15, 2012 at 12:13 am #540295 Back to Top REPORT

    Jay Miller

    Joined: 2/6/2010
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    If I understand this correctly no one has rights to hunt the location, you do not own the land that only leaves the DNR as the only option to ensure that it does not continue. And for that to be taken care of the land owner needs to be the one calling DNR not you. That is when you sit in your stand and if you see the other person in the stand you call the land owner which in turn calls DNR about a possible poacher and trespasser. The DNR will in fact respond to both of those, in all states that I have been in but they will not sit around waiting for the crimes to happen. It is a long road to get resolved but after a few fines the message gets really clear.

    I might be missing something or not understanding the issue for you. Other than you do not want someone messing up a spot on a property boundary you hunt that overlooks a property you yourself do not have permission to hunt??

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    November 15, 2012 at 12:21 am #540296 Back to Top REPORT
    xxholleyxx
    XxHolleyxX

    Joined: 11/18/2008
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    You had to tress pass on the property that you did not have permission to be on to get to the stand to begin with.

    This is also not a known fact. I assumed since the stands were on a corner, and on the property line they could be seen from the property Jeff has permission to hunt.

    November 15, 2012 at 12:36 am #540297 Back to Top REPORT
    buckeyebowman
    buckeyebowman

    Age: 61
    Joined: 9/9/2004
    It is not a 100percent known fact. You only know what the land owner told you, what about his wife? You had to tress pass on the property that you did not have permission to be on to get to the stand to begin with. I know why you are trying to get the guy out of the area but if in fact he does have permission to be there then it seems to me you are bordering on hunter harassment. Contact the IDNR or who ever handles it and keep your self out of trouble.

    You’re either being purposefully difficult, or your reading comprehension skills are sub-par! In one of his posts JeffK clearly stated that he spoke to the owner of the land where the stand was put up. The landowner told JeffK that he had given no one permission to hunt his land, but he did give JeffK permission to take the stand down!![/size:195r48cp] What part of that don’t you understand? As far as the wife giving permission, you gotta be kidding me! Talk about grasping at straws! I’ve asked for permission at many a place, and talked to the lady of the house many times. In every case the response was, “You’ll have to talk to my husband.” I also know why JeffK is trying to get the guy out of there. It’s because he is trespassing![/size:195r48cp] Giving a trespasser the boot is not hunter harassment! Even if the guy does have permission to be on the bank owned property, that is not where he put his stand. Plus, the fact that he put the stand up only 50 yards from JeffK’s stand, in other words in his hip pocket, would tick me off even if the guy did have permission!

    Sorry to come off so strong, but your refusal to see what is right in front of your eyes got me fired up.

    It's not how far you shoot, but how close you get.
    November 15, 2012 at 3:40 am #540298 Back to Top REPORT
    jeff-k-in-il
    Jeff K in IL

    Age: 26
    Joined: 11/1/2005
    It is not a 100percent known fact. You only know what the land owner told you, what about his wife? You had to tress pass on the property that you did not have permission to be on to get to the stand to begin with. I know why you are trying to get the guy out of the area but if in fact he does have permission to be there then it seems to me you are bordering on hunter harassment. Contact the IDNR or who ever handles it and keep your self out of trouble.

    Ok, I am going to explain this one more time, after that, you choose to believe what you wish.

    The bolded portion above: It is 100%. We have talked with the landowner, whom is also the farmer. No one has been given permission to hunt his field. I believe this to be a simple mis-communication; the hunter may think that tree is on the bank owned land, but it truly isn’t. It is close though, but trespassing is still trespassing. We called the landowner after we spotted that stands from our land. It isn’t hard to silhouette a couple of stands on a treeline with nothing in the background to cover them. We removed the stands because he asked us to, therefore giving us permission to trespass on HIS property, and set them at the base of the tree. I’d think that is a pretty clear statement.

    So now, you appear to be convinced that I have an ulterior motive. Sure, it sucks to have a stand 50yds away, but if he is legal, I could care less.

    To give you a better picture of the situation:

    Red is his stand placement, yellow is ours. Field to the south (bottom of picture) is the land that the stand is on. There is no hunting allowed. As I said, it is close. We have permission to hunt the field that the yellow dot is overlooking; our stand is on our property facing north. The deer filter out of that tall grass (which is depicted as water here), and into our field, and either go east, or north. At no time did we trespass without permission from the the landowner of the field to our south, and at no time did we set foot on the property to our west.

    This all started as an inquiry; we called up the landowner to see if he had given anyone permission to hunt that property, and he had not. He asked why, and we told him we believed someone was using his property to hunt the corner of the undeveloped subdivision. He asked us to check into it. We crossed into his field and walked up the stands from the south, and they were indeed on his property. We called him back, and he asked us to remove them. There are two ways to access those stands; one is through the field to the south walking west-east, the other is by parking in the subdivision (remember, parking with the flow of traffic is not trespassing) and walking north-south through the field we have permission to hunt. The other day when I was out there, I found a cigarette butt in our field; no one that hunts our field smokes. Granted, this could be another person, but still it shows me that someone is where they shouldn’t be. Another thing I noticed was how worn a path was through the tall grass to the stands. That path leads directly to our field. If he has permission to hunt the corner, that is fine with me, but don’t use another person’s property to hunt that corner.

    You go ahead and call it what you want, but I will take care of the issue as instructed by the landowner.

    November 15, 2012 at 5:00 am #540299 Back to Top REPORT
    rickym
    RickyM


    Joined: 8/4/2004
    If you hunt there enough I am sure you will run into him… Sit in his stand..I am sure if he comes up yall will get it worked out one way or the other..
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