Dealers need extra common DL cams in stock!

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  • August 8, 2010 at 1:08 pm #496448 Back to Top REPORT
    develobear
    develobear

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    BHDren wrote:
    The QCA quick remove axle is a dream to dealers who have to fit a customer with the right draw length. It means a dealer can keep a few bows and several cams in stock, fit any customer perfectly in seconds, and not have to have 20 different bows hanging on the wall. [/quote:2ar9llt5]

    My rant that follows is to encourage dealers to stock more cams.

    The idea of having a selction of cams available for easy switchout for fitting DL at time of purchase and is what QCA is all about. But I have been trying to find a Z7 in stock with a 28″ or 27.5″ cam since March, 2010. I’ve been to and called the 3 shops I trust in KC and St. Louis multiple times each. I”M TRYING TO BUY A Z7 that I can tryout before purchase. I finally have two dealers saying they will call me as soon as a 28″ Z7 comes in. It’s been 3 weeks now and no callbacks.

    They all have multiple Z7s in stock but never any 27.5″ or 28″ cams. I see a lot of 29 and 29.5″ and 70#. When did 28″ become an uncommon DL? They all say I can special order it and wait another 3 weeks with prior commitment to buy. But I want to shoot it first to be sure the the exact DL I need. Also I need the correct DL to help decide what poundage I want to buy. I want either a 60# or 65# but they only have 70# and sometimes 60#s. The “real men shoot 70#” mentality is still out there. None of the dealers carry 65#.

    These are all fairly high volume dealers since they are long time, quality dealers. So why the ##@!! don’t they have 28″ cams laying around so they can sell me a bow!!! Am I asking for too much to expect to find a 28 or 27.5″ Z7 in 60 or 65#s without special order? I’m guessing I want a 60# 28″ Z7 but without DL adjustment in the cam I’m not ordering one until I try it.

    Mathews should bring back the +/- 0.5″ DL adjustment in the cams like they had in the beginning of Mathews. Then I could special order a 28 or 27.5″ and not worry about geting the wrong one.

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    August 8, 2010 at 3:04 pm #530861 Back to Top REPORT
    99fatboy
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    you are either getting the runaround or have really bad timing or bad dealers. we sell more bows in that draw length(27.5-29) than any others by far and we always have at least 2 of each draw weight on hand plus we have a whole drawer full of extra cams on hand. it would be a very rare case to not have what you need in our shop in western n.y.
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    August 8, 2010 at 3:24 pm #530862 Back to Top REPORT
    henro
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    I don’t have that problem with my dealer. He’s always overloaded with extra cams and modules in every bow he sells or has sold in the past and not just Mathews.
    Mathews MR5 29"@70lbs 620gr @ 261fps Victory VAP250 w/ SS insert & 190gr Steelforce Single Bevel African Phathead 22.75% FOC Elite Judge 29"@70lbs "When it comes to hits try for the best but prepare for the worst." Dr. Ashby
    August 8, 2010 at 4:23 pm #530863 Back to Top REPORT
    vince71969
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    If memory serves, the Demo Z7 came with 30, 29 & 28 ” cams supplied with it :thumbup
    August 8, 2010 at 5:37 pm #530864 Back to Top REPORT
    chopperpoe
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    my dealer keeps extra cams. actually my z7 was born a 27/70#
    bow. he swapped out the cam for a 28. because he didn’t have a 28 bow in stock.not because it’s uncommon dl but because it’s so common he cant keep them in stock because they sell out fast. [=}=]
    August 8, 2010 at 5:55 pm #530865 Back to Top REPORT
    erictski
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    I agree if you sell the bows you should have the ability to let people shoot them in any drawlength.

    the shop i shoot at doesnt just 2 in like 28.5 and 29 or something like that….

    the shop north of me where i bought my drenalin always has the flagship bow of mathews and hoyt on the shelf in every drawlength or at least a cam so they can switch it out right quick for you.

    i dont know how you can buy a bow without shooting it in your drawlength…you cant get a good feel shooting a bow 2 inches too long, plus each year the drawlengths arent the same as old models…you might like a 28 in a drenalin but need a 27.5 in the z7

    August 8, 2010 at 7:44 pm #530866 Back to Top REPORT
    az-longbow
    AZ Longbow

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    I have to fully agree with you there!
    Both Mathews Dealers locally had to order cams or modules when I needed them!
    August 9, 2010 at 12:24 am #530867 Back to Top REPORT
    sticks
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    My dealer doesn’t stock any cams that I’m aware of and doesn’t really stock any Mathews bows just demo’s and orders as sold.
    How are you living your Dash?
    August 9, 2010 at 12:47 am #530868 Back to Top REPORT
    99fatboy
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    i don’t know if that guy even qualifies as a dealer in my book.does he want your money before he orders too? bet the other dealers around there love him,easy sale for them!
    black z7 magnum,tommy hogg,qad,b-stingers, vaportrail: blue smoke triumph,sword,hamskae,b-stingers:desert tactical chill R, tommy hogg,limbdriver pro v,ktech
    August 9, 2010 at 1:13 am #530869 Back to Top REPORT
    sticks
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    i don’t know if that guy even qualifies as a dealer in my book.does he want your money before he orders too? bet the other dealers around there love him,easy sale for them!

    If you are referring to my post, he gets 20% down to order. He’s a great guy and great shop to deal with one of the best in the area and I’ve been to all the shops around me, I know I can trust him!

    How are you living your Dash?
    August 9, 2010 at 2:17 am #530870 Back to Top REPORT
    henro
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    If I was a dealer I would never order without a deposit as well. At least $100-200 should be no problem to order a bow as long as you’ve shot it. I wouldn’t order a bow if I didn’t shoot it first anyway.
    Mathews MR5 29"@70lbs 620gr @ 261fps Victory VAP250 w/ SS insert & 190gr Steelforce Single Bevel African Phathead 22.75% FOC Elite Judge 29"@70lbs "When it comes to hits try for the best but prepare for the worst." Dr. Ashby
    August 9, 2010 at 2:43 am #530871 Back to Top REPORT
    wolbear
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    As a dealer, I can tell you this, we can’t keep everyone happy all the time. Here’s my question to you then, as a dealer, if I stock 5 Z7′s and they range from 27-30 inch draw, and no one buys the 27 or 28 inch draw length bows, are you going to shoot a shorter draw length come the end of the season to help me clear inventory. I can answer that one, next, we have the most popular draw lengths in stock, then follow that up by having a few extra cams on hand. Now, at the end of the season, when the “new” bows are announced and most are rushing to sell the Z7 because they have to have the new offering, are you gonna buy those extra cams and help clear the inventory on those? I can answer that one too! Before you get so excited and go on your rant, you need to think of things from the dealers perspective. Most of us ( and the good dealers know who they are) try our best to keep as many customers satisfied, but we can’t keep 20 bows and 70 extra cams laying around. Overhead it hurtful and by having too much of it, your dealer won’t be a dealer very long. Just my two cents! :thumbup
    August 9, 2010 at 4:13 am #530872 Back to Top REPORT
    bownazi
    bownazi

    Joined: 11/24/2008
    Usually keep in stock for Z7……..10-70lb….10-65lb & 5-60lb.
    Then reorder as sold……….keep about 10 extra cams for Z
    Keep about 10 Monsters in stock…6s & 7s with over 100 sets of mods

    28” is my biggest seller

    2-26
    2-27
    4-27.5
    6-28
    4-28.5
    3-29
    2-29.5
    2-30

    August 9, 2010 at 5:03 am #530873 Back to Top REPORT

    thompson

    Joined: 7/19/2010

    BHDren wrote:
    The QCA quick remove axle is a dream to dealers who have to fit a customer with the right draw length. It means a dealer can keep a few bows and several cams in stock, fit any customer perfectly in seconds, and not have to have 20 different bows hanging on the wall. [/quote:22jv5xej]

    My rant that follows is to encourage dealers to stock more cams.

    The idea of having a selction of cams available for easy switchout for fitting DL at time of purchase and is what QCA is all about. But I have been trying to find a Z7 in stock with a 28″ or 27.5″ cam since March, 2010. I’ve been to and called the 3 shops I trust in KC and St. Louis multiple times each. I”M TRYING TO BUY A Z7 that I can tryout before purchase. I finally have two dealers saying they will call me as soon as a 28″ Z7 comes in. It’s been 3 weeks now and no callbacks.

    They all have multiple Z7s in stock but never any 27.5″ or 28″ cams. I see a lot of 29 and 29.5″ and 70#. When did 28″ become an uncommon DL? They all say I can special order it and wait another 3 weeks with prior commitment to buy. But I want to shoot it first to be sure the the exact DL I need. Also I need the correct DL to help decide what poundage I want to buy. I want either a 60# or 65# but they only have 70# and sometimes 60#s. The “real men shoot 70#” mentality is still out there. None of the dealers carry 65#.

    These are all fairly high volume dealers since they are long time, quality dealers. So why the ##@!! don’t they have 28″ cams laying around so they can sell me a bow!!! Am I asking for too much to expect to find a 28 or 27.5″ Z7 in 60 or 65#s without special order? I’m guessing I want a 60# 28″ Z7 but without DL adjustment in the cam I’m not ordering one until I try it.

    Mathews should bring back the +/- 0.5″ DL adjustment in the cams like they had in the beginning of Mathews. Then I could special order a 28 or 27.5″ and not worry about geting the wrong one.

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    Out of curiosity what shops in the STL area have you called? Might know of some others in that area

    August 9, 2010 at 10:53 am #530874 Back to Top REPORT
    macolos
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    I have to fully agree with you there!
    Both Mathews Dealers locally had to order cams or modules when I needed them![/quote:2rdzso8r]

    If you buy early, it is very possible the dealer could not get the cam or mod for stock when bow is released. It takes Mathews about two to three months after a new bow is released to get enough ahead to sell stock cams to dealers. This is all based on how fast a bow sells. As you can see buy the poll the 29″ is by far the most common and that is why they are built first. I always had to wait as I am only a 27″ draw.
    But I agree after a few monts it would be nice if they had a good stock of at least 27 through 30. Just sounds like good bussness. If I walk in the door with a hand full of green, and my dealer can not supply, I want the bow today not next monthe and if I had to drive an extra 100 miles one way to get it I would do that.

    Ron /////// Archery and Fly fishing
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