Creed XS very jumpy

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  • February 10, 2014 at 12:15 pm #619007 Back to Top REPORT
    steveyz
    steveyz

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    I bought a new Creed XS to replace my DXT. at first test I love the bow. But I have noticed a very unusual trait of the bow that wasn’t there on my DXT or any other bow I have owned. So here is the scenario, when at full draw, if I don’t hold back completely the string basically jumps forward. it seems that there isn’t enough of a valley to allow for any slight let off.  it happens often enough to write this post. I have a buddy that had a Creed and he experienced the same thing and I shot my uncles XS before shooting one at a local bow shop and it happened with his also. I wrote off the issue with my uncles as being because the draw length was 1 1/2″ too long for me. My buddy said he went into his local dealer and they changed the rubber grommet on the cam stop and it helped a lot. So the question for you all is this…is this a design issue? is there just no valley for the XS? is the rubber grommet fix my buddy described a Mathews fix or a dealer tweak? my fear here is that this is my hunting bow and when in a tree you move around and can be at weird positions. So it could make for a difficult situation to always hold at 100% to avoid the bow jump I describe above.

    any help would be appreciated.

    February 10, 2014 at 2:37 pm #619016 Back to Top REPORT
    99fatboy
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    First off, you may be shooting 1/2″ too long draw length, secondly, you should never relax at full draw. Thirdly, yes, the small draw stop does give a bit more valley, but also increases draw by about 1/4″. So, you may want to try a shorter cam and the smaller stop, and lower your draw weight also. It’s a narrower valley than your old bow for sure.
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    February 10, 2014 at 3:08 pm #619019 Back to Top REPORT
    vatechhunter
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    No issue with the bow, just a product of the draw stop. I would try the smaller draw stop and then go from there. I have a Helim and I still have the bigger draw stop because I love the solid back wall.
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    February 11, 2014 at 4:35 pm #619173 Back to Top REPORT
    stealth1
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    You probably have not been shooting against the wall with your previous Mathews bows. I have a Creed with the smaller draw stop and I had a lot of trouble with it jumping forward when I first got the bow,  but after several month of daily practice, it rarely happens to me now, except when I become very fatigued. For me I do not like this setup for hunting, but it is what it is. Just give yourself some time to build muscle memory and you should be fine.Be careful not to start punching the trigger on your release. Holding against the wall increases your holding weight,so your might fell the urge to rush your shot.We have a while before hunting season comes around again, unless your live in Texas where we can shot hogs all year long  with no bag limit.
    February 13, 2014 at 10:38 am #619380 Back to Top REPORT
    bow-drawn
    Bow Drawn

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    I find this to happen with any of the newer bows with higher energy cams. It is a habit I had to slightly relax at full draw with the Drenalin and earlier bows. When I started with the bows made after that I had to stop that bad habit. I have shot other bows not made by Mathews and they will do it to me to. I know now I have to stay focused at full draw and then pull against the wall and don’t creep forward at all.
    February 24, 2014 at 1:06 pm #620467 Back to Top REPORT
    steveyz
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    is there any way to adjust the valley on the Creed XS? i know some bows you can move the draw stop or twist cables, etc… just havent heard anyone on here speak about that for the Creed XS/ any input would be appreciated.
    February 24, 2014 at 1:36 pm #620469 Back to Top REPORT
    99fatboy
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    I hope that you read the previous replies!!!!!!! Myself and others told you that the small draw stop will help, but will increase draw length by about 1/4″. This is the only option on the creed/xs for adjustment. Please reread the replies above, we all gave good input on your situation.
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    February 28, 2014 at 6:28 pm #620923 Back to Top REPORT
    vash
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    some great advice!!

    i had this.  on an older bow.

    i found i could hold better if the DL was shorter.  even a super short D-loop will help.  on my bow, i put on a fatter grip so the bow felt shorter between the grip and the d-loop.

    all this is just a bandaide..you really have to pay attention to your back tension.  sadly in the end, i decided the jumpy cam was hurting my weak shoulder.  i would get sore after a long shooting session.  it wasnt worth the risk..i got a softer bow.  haha.

    March 2, 2014 at 3:26 pm #621048 Back to Top REPORT
    newbowhunter2014
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    I am new to shooting bows and I recently bought a Creed 70/28.  It didn’t take me long to realize if you relax just a little bit it will try to go on you.  I realize this is me and not the bow.  I have no problems with it now.  Get it on the wall and hold it there and no problems.  I love mine!  Hope you get it figured out. CC
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