Creed vs Z7

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  • March 1, 2013 at 5:26 pm #566169 Back to Top REPORT

    thinback

    Joined: 1/15/2012
    I had a Z 7 magnum for about a year and half.  I like it a lot it shot a few nice deer with it.  I shot the creed a few times and really liked the draw stop.   My buddy really like my magnum so I sold it to him.  While I was waiting on my new Creed I really started to second guess my decision.  After it came in last week and I shot I new I made the right decision.  If you like your Z 7 find a way to keep for a back up and get something new if you like it.  Before I learned to work on my own equipment I missed a couple weeks of bow season and will never be without some sort of backup bow.
    March 1, 2013 at 7:43 pm #566192 Back to Top REPORT
    buckfever
    Buckfever

    Joined: 7/12/2004
    It is such a personal choice. I would pick the Chill, Helim, Creed, Z7, in that order.
    March 13, 2013 at 10:42 pm #568668 Back to Top REPORT

    Sportsmanphil

    Age: 37
    Joined: 3/14/2013
    Location: nc
    I am in the same boat.  I bought a Z7 extreme last year and love how good it shoots.  I shot a Creed this week but it was a 60lb, therefore I could not really get a sense of the draw curve difference.  However I really like the back wall.

    I can sell my z7 now and have minimal difference to make up for a Creed.

    From what I can tell, I *should have a better draw curve, solid wall and a slightly lighter bow.  The performance is basically the same and the bow is not as compact.

    Decisions decisions………..

    March 14, 2013 at 11:35 am #568739 Back to Top REPORT

    Spotshooter

    Joined: 2/17/2012
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    I have a Z7 and like most of us, I shoot the new bows every year. I won’t buy a new bow until something comes along that makes me think WOW, this is that much better than what I am shooting now. Altough I really like the Creed its a great bow, it just didn’t have that WOW factor for me. Now the Chill on the other hand was close. I do not know what it is but I really like it. Buy hey I can’t knock anyone who wants to buy a new Mathews.
    March 21, 2013 at 10:29 pm #570445 Back to Top REPORT

    Sportsmanphil

    Age: 37
    Joined: 3/14/2013
    Location: nc
    Can anyone comment on the draw of a maxed 70lb  z7 extreme vs the draw of a maxed 70lb Creed?

    I prefer the solid back wall of the creed.  I also *think* the Creed has a bit more quality in design as they have removed 2 of the string stops and even less monkey tails, however it seems to be just as quiet as my Z7.

    My idea is if I wait to sale my Z7, the value will drop now that Mathews has a whole new line out right now.  My cost to upgrade is probably at its lowest if I do it now.

    Its just hard to upgrade when I have no complaints with my current bow.

    March 26, 2013 at 11:51 pm #571482 Back to Top REPORT

    Sportsmanphil

    Age: 37
    Joined: 3/14/2013
    Location: nc
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    March 27, 2013 at 7:15 am #571491 Back to Top REPORT
    straightedge123
    StraightEdge123

    Joined: 10/22/2007

    Can anyone comment on the draw of a maxed 70lb z7 extreme vs the draw of a maxed 70lb Creed? 

    I prefer the solid back wall of the creed. I also *think* the Creed has a bit more quality in design as they have removed 2 of the string stops and even less monkey tails, however it seems to be just as quiet as my Z7.

    My idea is if I wait to sale my Z7, the value will drop now that Mathews has a whole new line out right now. My cost to upgrade is probably at its lowest if I do it now.

    Its just hard to upgrade when I have no complaints with my current bow.

    IMO the draw is a little softer for the Z7 than for the Creed.  Certainly the dwell zone is a little smaller for the Creed and the wall firmer because of the limb draw stops, but if you are going to pull into the stops you will get used to the short valley.  In my mind there is no question that the Creed is quieter and has less vibration when you shoot it bare bow.  I also like the feeling that the Creed gives making it seem like a longer bow since it holds really well for me.

    {#emotions_dlg.mathews_peace}

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    March 27, 2013 at 10:20 am #571522 Back to Top REPORT

    Sportsmanphil

    Age: 37
    Joined: 3/14/2013
    Location: nc

    Can anyone comment on the draw of a maxed 70lb z7 extreme vs the draw of a maxed 70lb Creed?

    I prefer the solid back wall of the creed. I also *think* the Creed has a bit more quality in design as they have removed 2 of the string stops and even less monkey tails, however it seems to be just as quiet as my Z7.

    My idea is if I wait to sale my Z7, the value will drop now that Mathews has a whole new line out right now. My cost to upgrade is probably at its lowest if I do it now.

    Its just hard to upgrade when I have no complaints with my current bow.

    IMO the draw is a little softer for the Z7 than for the Creed. Certainly the dwell zone is a little smaller for the Creed and the wall firmer because of the limb draw stops, but if you are going to pull into the stops you will get used to the short valley. In my mind there is no question that the Creed is quieter and has less vibration when you shoot it bare bow. I also like the feeling that the Creed gives making it seem like a longer bow since it holds really well for me.

    {#emotions_dlg.mathews_peace}

    Awesome, thank you.  From all I can tell, Mathews people keep commenting on how smooth the creed is to draw but I have not heard them say its MORE smooth that XYZ’s bows draw.  Slight of hand in advertising.  Its just hard for me to sell a bow and buy a new one if its just a lateral move.  I do wish they could have kept it 28 ata.  I am 6’5″ tall and its very hard for me to shoot from a blind.  Not only does the bow need to be short but I barely fit from front to back in the blind at full draw without sticking my bow into the open window.  The ATA is not only 2″ longer but the huge pulley and cam add to the overall length of the bow and make it about 5 inches taller overall.  The compactness of the Z7E is what made me buy it in the first place.

    Decisions Decisions…………

    March 30, 2013 at 12:15 am #572036 Back to Top REPORT

    Sportsmanphil

    Age: 37
    Joined: 3/14/2013
    Location: nc
    Well, Im back.. I went to the bow shop today and they set up a 70 lb creed and I brought my 70 lb extreme.

    The creed maxed out hit 74 lbs… my Extreme maxed out hit 73 lbs. However the extreme is 30 inch draw and the creed was 29.5.

    I chronographed both bows with the same arrow and both shot 297 fps every single time (3 shots each)

    So whats the difference between the bows…..1st off, I would say the Creed is a very small touch more quiet, however I swear the z7 was a touch more dead or vibration free… both of which were so similar, its almost a problem figuring out which was more quite or which was more dead in the hands; that said, it isnt worth trying to figure out.

    The real differences you could feel and see:  The Creed has a solid back wall and the z7  does not.

    The creed is longer, about 4.5 inches (OAL)..  The axle to axle is only 2 inches more but the cam and pulley are HUGE so it adds to the overall length a noticeable bit.

    Draw cycle………man this was tough.  I cant say the Creed was SMOOTHER than my z7.  If it was, its too similar to notice.  I drew back each several times and couldn’t settle if it was noticeably better.

    The biggest difference is the back wall.  However this is a personal preference and not necessarily a better/worse issue.  I personally LIKE the hard solid wall, but not everyone is the same as me.

    This is the best I can do….. Is the Creed an upgrade over the z bow… not sure.  You give up some compactness for a wall, and this is the best way I can compare the two.

    March 31, 2013 at 7:48 am #572200 Back to Top REPORT

    thinback

    Joined: 1/15/2012
    If you can swing it and like the creed keep both.  It’s good to have a quality back up that you can shoot lights out.  I like the Z7 and wish I kept mine when I got my z7 magnum.  I like the feel of the creed better than the magnum.
    March 31, 2013 at 8:42 pm #572301 Back to Top REPORT
    5-rivers
    5 Rivers

    Joined: 11/9/2006
    Kent,
    Go shoot the CHILL before making your final decision.
    I have been really impressed with this bow.
    It’s less torquey and faster.
    Mathews Solocam and Chill series
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