Creed – A Humble & Belated Review

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  • February 20, 2013 at 4:13 pm #560994 Back to Top REPORT
    l-o-s-t-arrow
    L.O.S.T.Arrow

    Joined: 5/16/2006
    Location: Alberta
    The Mathews Creed

    The Mathews flagship the Creed took its time to find me this year, most likely due to demand, draw and poundage, but I finally received the Creed in 28” draw and 60 lb, I wanted the 65 Lb model but the Creed this year wasn’t offered in 65 lb models.

    I have received many other Creeds for others but this one was mine in my draw, right out of the box, It was better looking in person than in pictures, although I am not a fan of the duel limbs, and at first the oversized idler and cam looked out of place, but soon added to the look, the gridlock riser and LOST camo was flawless.

    To be honest I am a huge fan of my Mathews HeliM, it is light, fast, quite, and punches tacks, and dressed in My “Canadian version” of snow cam she is sure a looker, and the HeliM was outstanding to me for the 2012 hunting season.

    But I had to be bias in my review, as I held in my hand a bow that is slower, heavier and looks weird with the split limbs and oversized cam and Idler.

    *Out of box the bow pulled in right at 60 lbs-

    However the bow limbs would turn maxed down almost a full turn [maxed down backed off 1/8 turn], she than maxed out at 63 lbs, with cable running high in timing window, a quick spec tune and she maxed out at 64 lbs…Close enough to my 65 lbs that is my comfort zone.

    *A quick check of other specs showed cam lean was perfect, idler was ¼ bows left at nock point…slightly more than I like but without a knowledgably eye to watch me draw from behind and tell me if idler lean was 100% straight, but it looked good to my eye.

    *Dead stop has two set screws both were tightened ¼ turn, seems to be common with creeds I set up…I really like the two tier rubber stop itself…allows perfect string alignment without moving rod, ordered a dozen of those.

    The roller guard has me stumped as it is solid and not flexible as was the HeliM’s but I think that has to do with the Creeds design to reduce hand torque on draw.

    On the draw board the draw measured 26.5 at Berger..
    26.5 +1 ¾” standard = 28 ¼ draw

    This was very close to my HeliM also so it felt comfortable on draw.

    I installed the new Power Shot Ballistic Whisker Biscuit, [Ugly Cookie] Arrow centered on Berger in rest…rest moved to arrow centered 13/16 from riser …The camo model matched perfectly,

    I thru on an older sight just for testing, a bow wrist sling with a simple bolt… no stabilizer, I installed duel True fire UCB buttons on string as nock point and other 3/8 lower for release on simply on string, nock point was set ¼ high of 90 degrees of bottom of arrow on rest.

    On first draw I feel there is a big valley with a noticeable roll over and solid wall…most solid wall I have ever felt…

    I have to be honest and say I didn’t like it …As I drew the bow cam out of the valley and roll over hitting the draw stop hard…with an audible “Clunk” again due to big cam and idler.

    Yet the shot wasn’t jumpy and want to take off if you let the string creep… which was a trait and issue for many with the Extreme and Z7 IMHO,

    My first three shots were all touching, she is a shooter for sure, I noticed a slight hand shock, which even with a small 3” stabilizer that would be zero, the bow was surprisingly quite, I thought due to large cam it would be louder.

    With the addition of String whiskers the creed would be near as stealth as my Helim.

    The forth and fifth arrow surprised me with an loud “SMACK”… the dreaded “Robin Hood”, the six arrow also wanted to play and nicked the fifth arrows nock.

    I decided to shoot a Tri Spot for the rest of the evening because this bow is a shooter, as I shot more I grew accustom to the rollover and hard wall, which wasn’t as audible or noticeable and smoothened out, however I still feel like I am running into a brick wall with no helmet…lol compared to other bows.

    The bow has a smooth draw to the wall and is balanced perfectly IMHO and fell forward slightly after the shot for outstanding follow thru, that Creed murdered the X’s all night long.

    With its short [but not too short] 30” ATA overall length, generous 7” brace height and 33 IBO speed it will make a perfect hunter for all on the ground, in stands or blinds.

    I wasn’t impressed on the release of the Creed, until I shot it; I suggest you shoot it also at a local Mathews dealer.

    JMHO
    Neil

    Sheeesh this new forum format is harsh…

    February 20, 2013 at 4:23 pm #560998 Back to Top REPORT
    nscott88
    nscott88

    Age: 24
    Joined: 2/10/2009
    Outstanding review Neil. I really didn’t care for the creed either. Never could place what I didn’t like, just never felt like “my bow”
    February 20, 2013 at 4:32 pm #561005 Back to Top REPORT
    bow-drawn
    Bow Drawn

    Age: 63
    Joined: 11/14/2007
    Location: Ohio
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    {#emotions_dlg.mathews_green1} NOCK ON Neil with that great review. So the Helium is still safe. {#emotions_dlg.mathews_wink}
    February 20, 2013 at 4:44 pm #561011 Back to Top REPORT
    bigrobc
    bigrobc

    Age: 34
    Joined: 1/26/2011
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    Sounds like i need one
    February 20, 2013 at 5:06 pm #561026 Back to Top REPORT
    canadianboy
    CanadianBoy

    Joined: 6/7/2009
    Good job ,now im waiting {#emotions_dlg.mathews_whistle} for u  review of the Chill {#emotions_dlg.mathews_monster_blue}
    February 20, 2013 at 5:21 pm #561032 Back to Top REPORT
    c-fused
    C-fused

    Age: 53
    Joined: 10/25/2006
    Location: PA
    Thanks Neil for the review.

    I’m looking for a Chill review too from the Great White North.

    {#emotions_dlg.mathews_monster_blue}

    February 20, 2013 at 9:20 pm #561138 Back to Top REPORT
    wrkdvr
    wrkdvr

    Age: 35
    Joined: 2/5/2013
    Location: Virginia
    Reading these just makes the wait for my creed seem even longer.
    February 21, 2013 at 6:18 am #561289 Back to Top REPORT
    jeronimo
    jeronimo

    Age: 45
    Joined: 2/18/2005
    Location: Quebec
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    so when are you gonna get it dipped in snow camo ? {#emotions_dlg.mathews_tongue}
    February 21, 2013 at 6:56 am #561301 Back to Top REPORT
    bloodtrails
    bloodtrails

    Age: 43
    Joined: 8/9/2009
    Location: Texas
    {#emotions_dlg.mathews_applause}{#emotions_dlg.mathews_nicethread}
    February 21, 2013 at 7:20 am #561312 Back to Top REPORT
    statedriller
    statedriller

    Joined: 9/15/2006
    Location: Call me...867-5309
    Nice honest opinion.  Thanks Neil…
    The end is near....
    February 21, 2013 at 7:27 am #561320 Back to Top REPORT
    backhalfed
    backhalfed

    Joined: 10/5/2007
    Location: Ohio
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    Nice reveiw Neil{#emotions_dlg.mathews_thumbs_up}
    February 21, 2013 at 8:54 am #561347 Back to Top REPORT
    blackdog
    BlackDog

    Age: 63
    Joined: 7/21/2004
    So Neil; sticking with the HeliM?

    Which draws easier and smoother in your humble opinion?

    February 21, 2013 at 9:27 am #561356 Back to Top REPORT
    l-o-s-t-arrow
    L.O.S.T.Arrow

    Joined: 5/16/2006
    Location: Alberta
    “So Neil; sticking with the HeliM?

    Which draws easier and smoother in your humble opinion?”
    ***********************

    :D Well lets just say my HeliM isnt going anywhere and she will not be far for the 2013 hunting season…

    Many will say the Creed is smoother, however for myself I love the HeliM draw and wall,

    the Creed as I mentioned has a hard solid wall, which will be more noticeible with more poundage, the bow rolls over hard into the wall and it will take some getting used to

    Neil

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 7 months ago by l-o-s-t-arrow L.O.S.T.Arrow.
    February 21, 2013 at 10:01 am #561366 Back to Top REPORT
    l-o-s-t-arrow
    L.O.S.T.Arrow

    Joined: 5/16/2006
    Location: Alberta
    “so when are you gonna get it dipped in snow camo ? ”

    :D I think I will keep this one in LOST…love the way LOST looks with that gridlock..it dissappears here in alberta in the willows

    Neil

    February 21, 2013 at 10:16 am #561367 Back to Top REPORT
    canadianboy
    CanadianBoy

    Joined: 6/7/2009

    “So Neil; sticking with the HeliM? 

    Which draws easier and smoother in your humble opinion?”
    ***********************

    :D Well lets just say my HeliM isnt going anywhere and she will not be far for the 2013 hunting season…

    Many will say the Creed is smoother, however for myself I love the HeliM draw and wall,

    the Creed as I mentioned has a hard solid wall, which will be more noticeible with more poundage, the bow rolls over hard into the wall and it will take some getting used to

    Neil

    To me the wall remind me of  my Rezeen

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