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  • October 4, 2013 at 9:13 pm #597579 Back to Top REPORT
    stratofisher
    stratofisher

    Joined: 12/18/2008
    Got a used Helim on the way to me and was curious if there are any things to watch out for when setting this bow up. I have been shooting the Elite Answer for two years and finally got tired of not having a yoke to tune out cam lean.   Very excited to get this bow setup.   Figure I will throw on the Ultra Quad HDX rest and my Spott Hogg Hogg it sight. I am leaning towards an Alpine quiver, but still debating.  Looking for any good inputs on what makes the Helim shoot like a champ.
    October 5, 2013 at 2:52 pm #597641 Back to Top REPORT
    raven
    Raven

    Age: 45
    Joined: 9/27/2008
    Location: Ohio
    Tunes easy but be careful of cable clearance with fletching.  shoots best with cable in lower half of timing window on cam. Also switched to a Focus grip and love it. Great hunting bow. Enjoy. Follow the tuning guide provide on the Forum by Lost Arrow.
    HeliM 27.5@56lbs Easton Bloodline 400's/ CX Blue Streak 250 Truball Max 4 /Short n Sweet/Ktech
    October 5, 2013 at 3:41 pm #597649 Back to Top REPORT
    bootheel-boy
    bootheel boy

    Joined: 7/21/2006
    Location: S.E. Missouri
    Nothing wrong with an Alpine quiver at all.   The double arrow grippers on the soft loc is awesome for people who shoot mechanicals.  It doesn’t require arrow tip pressure to help hold an arrow in place.  Your broadheads just kind of float under the quiver hood with no contact.  Not having pressure on the arrows tip keeps mechanicals such as Rages from opening in the quiver.  Mathews makes a great quiver that is very well built and has that awesome Mathews warranty.  It just doesn’t have those double arrow grippers that I like.
    October 6, 2013 at 12:48 pm #597771 Back to Top REPORT
    gjarcher
    gjarcher

    Age: 71
    Joined: 10/3/2006
    Location: Colorado
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    Check the bolts (3) on the cam and make sure they don’t/haven’t come loose. If they do/have, take it to a dealer, or DIY if you have a bow press, and have the bolts re-tightened using Blue Loctite threadlocker. Don’t shoot the bow with loose cam bolts, it won’t tune, and it could damage the cam and limbs.

    Keep an eye on the roller guard rod … some have come loose. I believe there are two set screws to hold it in place…again, Blue Loctite theadlocker solves the issue.

    Otherwise just routine inspection and maintenance.

    Check out the Technical FAQ section for Vince’s Idler Lean and other tuning tips, like walkback tune. http://mathewsinc.com/forums-home/topic/the-vince-tuning-method-idler-lean-revision/

    The bow should tune closer to 13/16″ whereas older models tuned closer to 11/16″ centershot using the QAD rests, nock height should be about 1/8″ to 3/16″ putting the arrow perpendicular to the string (bowstring plumb, arrow level) with the QAD launcher full up.

    Congratulations … nice bow. {#emotions_dlg.mathews_thumbs_up}

    October 6, 2013 at 1:02 pm #597772 Back to Top REPORT
    stratofisher
    stratofisher

    Joined: 12/18/2008
    Thanks for all the great advice.  Looking forward to getting the bow in hunting tune ASAP.  Hoping this bow will be the shooter my Switchback XT was.  Worst mistake ever when I sold that bow for the Z-7Extreme.  Having shot the Helim at the shop I think it will be close to the switchback experience.   Nice to have new and better, but sometimes when something works just don’t mess with it.   Elites are great bows, but just not easy to tune/keep in tune.   I am ready to get back to the no-fuss shooting.
    October 18, 2013 at 8:12 pm #599979 Back to Top REPORT
    stratofisher
    stratofisher

    Joined: 12/18/2008
    Just got to the range after tuning up the bow in the basement.  What a great shooter this Helim bow is.   Just need to add the focus grip to make it easier to stay consistent.   New Mathews
    October 19, 2013 at 12:16 am #600005 Back to Top REPORT

    sightpin

    Joined: 9/30/2012
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    Check the bolts (3) on the cam and make sure they don’t/haven’t come loose. If they do/have, take it to a dealer, or DIY if you have a bow press, and have the bolts re-tightened using Blue Loctitethreadlocker. Don’t shoot the bow with loose cam bolts, it won’t tune, and it could damage the cam and limbs. 

    Keep an eye on the roller guard rod … some have come loose. I believe there are two set screws to hold it in place…again, Blue Loctite theadlocker solves the issue.

    Otherwise just routine inspection and maintenance.

    Check out the Technical FAQ section for Vince’s Idler Lean and other tuning tips, like walkback tune. http://mathewsinc.com/forums-home/topic/the-vince-tuning-method-idler-lean-revision/

    The bow should tune closer to 13/16″ whereas older models tuned closer to 11/16″ centershot using the QAD rests, nock height should be about 1/8″ to 3/16″ putting the arrow perpendicular to the string (bowstring plumb, arrow level) with the QAD launcher full up.

    Congratulations … nice bow. {#emotions_dlg.mathews_thumbs_up}

    Do you mean in relation to the berger hole. So not straight through the middle of the hole but 1/8th to 3/16th high on the hole?

    October 19, 2013 at 8:22 am #600026 Back to Top REPORT
    gjarcher
    gjarcher

    Age: 71
    Joined: 10/3/2006
    Location: Colorado
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    Nock height is measured from the perpendicular on the bowstring. Since the nock set or top knot of the D-Loop contacts the top of the arrow’s nock, setting the nock height half the width of the nock above perpendicular places the arrow’s centerline on the perpendicular or ‘nock level’ to the bowstring.

    The QAD launcher when full up must be 90º to the shelf and support the arrow so that the arrow’s centerline runs through the berger hole.

    You can also use a level to set nock height. Plumb the bow in a bow vice, bring the QAD launcher to full up, and use a line level on the arrow’s shaft to get ‘nock level’ or arrow perpendicular to bowstring.

    Z7Mag NockHeight

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 1 month ago by gjarcher gjarcher.
    October 19, 2013 at 8:27 am #600027 Back to Top REPORT
    ontarget7
    ontarget7

    Joined: 3/18/2012
    I have found them to tune best just about nock level.
    October 20, 2013 at 5:41 pm #600288 Back to Top REPORT

    sightpin

    Joined: 9/30/2012
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    Nock height is measured from the perpendicular on the bowstring. Since thenock set or top knot of the D-Loopcontacts the top of the arrow’s nock, setting the nock height half the width of the nock above perpendicular places the arrow’s centerline on the perpendicular or ‘nock level’to the bowstring. 

    The QAD launcher when full up must be 90º to the shelf and support the arrow so that the arrow’s centerline runs through the berger hole.

    You can also use a level to set nock height. Plumb the bow in a bow vice, bring the QAD launcher to full up, and use a line level on the arrow’s shaft to get ‘nock level’ or arrow perpendicular to bowstring.

    Z7Mag NockHeight

    • This reply was modified 1 day, 9 hours ago by gjarchergjarcher.

    Gottcha. Thanks

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