Joined: 9/12/2012is anyone else having bad penetration with the rage chisel tip broadheadsmonster mr8 31" 80# hha single pin ripcord code redI got a complete past through on the deer I shot this year and the arrow was stuck in the ground. It almost cut the heart in half.2009 Reezen 6.5 camo/black | 2012 Helim camo | 2012 Z9 black | 2013 MR7 camo | 2014 Chill R tactical | Used Ovation camo/black | 2015 No Cam HTR stone tacticalIt’s probably due to the light weight arrow set up or weak spine not giving you the momentum to penetrate a thin skinned animal like a deer.
The 80# draw weight is going to require a pretty stiff arrow. IMHO
Location: Upstate NYGotta remember, all pass thrioughs are not created equally. Granted, there are variables such as arrow weight, FOC, speed, etc. With the assumption that all blades are razor sharp, it has more to do with what and where you hit, rather than what you hit them with. Any time a bone is contacted, the probability of a pass through is decreased and angle of contact will also have a bearing on the results. Just say’n.The Chisel tip is very similar to the Modified Trocar or Pyramid and Cone tips used on many broadheads, so the Chisel Tip should not factor into poor penetration.
Although despite shooting 5 gr/lb arrow, a 400 grain shaft with better than 11% FOC should adequately penetrate the average Whitetail, except a little penetration will be lost due to the weak spine flexing on impact. A .250″ spine shaft would perform better.
If you didn’t recover the arrow, it might have been the shaft that failed, and not the broadhead. FWIW, I could never get the GT UL Pro or Velocities to reliably hold the insert in place on impact out of my 60/28 Monster, so it is very likely that out of a High KE bow like a 80/31 MR8, the inserts are being pushed back into the shaft…the walls are just too thin…like this:
Gotta remember, all pass thrioughs are not created equally. Granted, there are variables such as arrow weight, FOC, speed, etc. With the assumption that all blades are razor sharp, it has more to do with what and where you hit, rather than what you hit them with. Any time a bone is contacted, the probability of a pass through is decreased and angle of contact will also have a bearing on the results. Just say’n.
About sums it all up with ANY broadhead.
Joined: 10/3/2006I use a heavy arrow because I elk hunt in addition to deer hunting, but I have had better penetration with the chisel tips than the original rage and I never really had any issue with penetration with them. Buck I shot this year the arrow entered last rib and exited center chest in the front. There are many things which will affect penetration, the broadhead is only one of the variables.
Joined: 9/12/2012thank you guys and when i use the original 2 blade rage i can pass through both shoulder blades with the set upmonster mr8 31" 80# hha single pin ripcord code red… and what have been your experience(s) with the chisel tips?
Same weight, same number of blades as the Rage 2-blade?
Joined: 3/2/2011I shot a doe with um last month and got a pass through and a 3″ hole. Had 26.5″ DL and 60lbs.
Location: MichiganIMHO it’s not the rage chisel tip. I have used reg two inch rages on four deer never had a pass thru but this year with the 2 inch chisel tip 2 deer broke ribs on both deer passed try both and buried in ground and both short blood trails. By the way never lost a deer with a rage broadhead and would highly recommend the chisel tip over the cutting tipped head. All with a 60lb ez7.
Joined: 10/22/2007If you’re shooting eighty pounds with a 31″ arrow and are getting poor penetration then something else is going on. It probably is not the broadhead.Mathews S2 / Copper John 4-pin / QAD HD LD / Worlds Best Strings / 808 Bowslings / Easton Bloodlines
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