Broadhead Help for new Creed

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  • May 10, 2013 at 10:03 am #577497 Back to Top REPORT

    cschwanz

    Joined: 9/12/2012
    Just picked up my new Tactical Creed this week!! Still working on getting accessories for it but things should be coming together in a week or two. Its a 70/28 and I’ll be shooting GT XT Hunters 5575s. I’ve been carrying Steelforce Sabertooths for about the last 10 years and am thinking about changing it up. I may still test them from my new rig,  but the size of the blade scares me at higher speeds and I’m not sure what wind deflection might to do them once I start shooting out a little further.

    I’ve been thinking of giving Rage a try. I really like the looks of their new Hypodermic head. Of course there are the horror stories of them opening in flight and failing, etc. But what mech head doesnt have a few haters here and there. The other choices I was thinking of were the G5 Montecs or maybe the Strikers.

    Whats everyone using? Pros or Cons to the ones I listed?

    May 10, 2013 at 10:42 am #577503 Back to Top REPORT
    bow-drawn
    Bow Drawn

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    First I noticed your arrows are a .400 spine and those are too weak of a spine for 28/70 setup. I shoot a 28/70 bow and every arrow setup I’ve checked for my setup is a .350 or stiffer spine.

    The larger profile broadhead do tune just fine but it takes some effort and time.

    May 10, 2013 at 12:23 pm #577514 Back to Top REPORT
    sqautch
    Sqautch

    Age: 45
    Joined: 12/25/2012
    Location: WI
    Honestly, I have two new Creeds, and I have owned at least 100 new bows in my life. My point is that the Creed has been the easiest bow to tune with broadheads in my entire life. Any broadhead within a reasonable size that I have shot out of it, hits exactly where I want. I was more than pleasantly surprised, I was shocked it was so easy to tune. I also am not a fan of expandables. I have shot them, but I always go back to fixed blades. This year I will be using the Slick Trick Standards, and Wac’em Tritons and Exits. Good luck, and as long as you use the properly spined shaft, I don’t see you having any issues with flight!
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    May 10, 2013 at 2:26 pm #577523 Back to Top REPORT

    cschwanz

    Joined: 9/12/2012
    That was the arrow recommended to me by the pro shop I bought the bow from.  I definitely plan on doing plenty of testing once I get my sights and stabilizer installed.  We shot some CE 350 arrows (only through paper and close range) and they were tearing everywhere. Switched to these and had bullet holes in no time. We’ll see what happens when I actually get some distance under them to see what they can do.
    May 10, 2013 at 3:59 pm #577525 Back to Top REPORT
    bow-drawn
    Bow Drawn

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    GUIDE TO USE THE GOLD TIP selection chart

    Read number to before making a selection on the chart and I think you’ll see what I’m saying about spine selection.

    Gold Tips Arrow selection chart

    May 10, 2013 at 4:17 pm #577526 Back to Top REPORT
    blackdog
    BlackDog

    Age: 63
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    My fav’s are the Steelforce Phatheads, SlickTrick Mags (but would like to try the Viper), Montec CS, and Striker or WacEms.
    I just can’t seem to get the G5 Montecs as sharp as I’d like (I’ve tried but just can’t get em sharp enough).
    Have heard the Montec CS’s sharpen better.

    They all fly great.  Tune the bow, get the right arrows and I think any of them would work fine.

    May 10, 2013 at 4:23 pm #577527 Back to Top REPORT
    theritchman
    theritchman

    Age: 47
    Joined: 12/27/2011
    Just my 2cents but I have been shooting Wac ‘em Tritons and absolutely love them. Easy tuning, durable and very economical.
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    May 10, 2013 at 6:03 pm #577537 Back to Top REPORT
    99fatboy
    99fatboy

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    as far as a fixed blade goes, i highly recommend the QAD exodus. the arrow concerns me as well. i am willing to bet that the cx350 you shot had a nok pinch issue or the throat fit too tightly on the serving, giving a false reading thru paper.old cx noks, before the latest ones, would give fit issues on a stock serving on mathews strings. the new noks fit much better. you need the stiffer arrow for good b.h. flight.
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    May 11, 2013 at 7:51 am #577577 Back to Top REPORT

    cschwanz

    Joined: 9/12/2012
    What signs can i look for if the arrow is underspined?
    May 11, 2013 at 9:46 am #577602 Back to Top REPORT
    gjarcher
    gjarcher

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    What signs can i look for if the arrow is underspined?

    Unable to get good broadhead flight, broadheads and field point do not have the same impact point, unforgiving of slightest inconsistencies in shot execution resulting is wide misses, good groups one day but poor groups the next, good groups at first but as fatique sets in groups open up with “frequent fliers”, difficult/critical to tune usually with the centershot too close to the riser, etc.

    Arrow manufacturers make available Arrow Selection Charts. Most, like Carbon Express and Gold Tip, have provisions for Adjusted Draw Weight to compensate for bows with IBO rating over 310 fps. Mfg selection charts are generic and make assumptions about component weights and fletching. If you want a ‘closer ballpark’ determination of the optimal spine, use software simulation made for that … OnTarget2, TAP, AA. OT2 has a 10-day free demo/trial.
    http://www.pinwheelsoftware.com/sfa.aspx

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    May 11, 2013 at 9:54 am #577605 Back to Top REPORT
    gjarcher
    gjarcher

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    For good broadhead flight, proper nock fit is important. The nock should snap onto the center serving, but still be able to slide up/down easily. Bohing Signature nocks and Double-Lock Blazer F-nocks have large throats and the Easton Supernock has a large throat, all of these are quality nocks with good fit on Mathews center serving.

    For bows with a sharp string angle, I recommend tying in nock sets above and below the nock inside of the D-Loop. This lessens the sharp string angle of short ATA bows and puts the driving force directly on the arrow centerline. Make the set points 1/16″ wider than the nock to avoid nock pinch.
    http://www.dudleyarchery.info/article?download=38%3Aknot-a-problem&start=40

    May 12, 2013 at 6:47 pm #577735 Back to Top REPORT

    matthews10

    Joined: 1/26/2013
    Yeah, it’s just what I need, I’m about to have a new one
    May 12, 2013 at 7:07 pm #577747 Back to Top REPORT

    Jake

    Joined: 8/6/2008
    I would definitely look into your spine selection as well.  Others have explained it much better than I ever could have, and I would also say that having the correct spine will let you shoot and tune almost any fixed blade broadhead out of todays bows.

    I do prefer mechanical heads, just me.  I still practice with them and don’t take for granted that they are “supposed” to shoot like my field points.  However, if I were to shoot a fixed head it would be the Slick Tricks.

    Jake

    May 16, 2013 at 6:54 pm #578182 Back to Top REPORT
    xertion
    Xertion

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    I’m having issue with my new chill (29.5DL/70#DW) as well. My fixed blade Muzzies are flying left by 4” to 8”. I’m shooting gold tips at 29.25” arrow w/o nock or insert @ 8.9 grains per/ Straightness tol +/- .006. I have a wild hog hunt this weekend then I need to get educated on correct arrow selection and perhaps some fine tuning. I can drive tacks @50yrds with field points.

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    May 16, 2013 at 8:22 pm #578189 Back to Top REPORT
    gjarcher
    gjarcher

    Age: 71
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    … My fixed blade Muzzies are flying left by 4” to 8”…I have a wild hog hunt this weekend…

    As long as the broadheads group well, move the sight to bring them on target, the pigs will never know the difference. {#emotions_dlg.mathews_peace}

    … and the Expedition 7595 (.340 spine) are too weak for your setup. You might try a some .250″ spine shafts @ 30″.

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