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  • January 11, 2013 at 12:31 am #497558 Back to Top REPORT
    sneska
    Sneska

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    I am tuning my Creed and using a QAD rest I sometimes get the arrow to rise off the rest while at full draw. What is happening? I want to prevent inaccurate arrow flight.
    I am using a loop and the shop put on a brass nock point inside the loop. I have never had a nock point in the loop before. Could that be causing the problem?
    Mathews Creed Carbon Express Red 250 G5 Montec 125 HHA 5500 QAD Ultra Rest Pro Trufire
    January 11, 2013 at 12:36 am #546765 Back to Top REPORT
    straightedge123
    StraightEdge123

    Joined: 10/22/2007
    Your D-loop may need opening up a little. Need a little play in it. Sixteenth inch at least.
    Mathews S2 / Copper John 4-pin / QAD HD LD / Worlds Best Strings / 808 Bowslings / Easton Bloodlines
    January 11, 2013 at 1:15 am #546766 Back to Top REPORT

    CHAS

    Joined: 1/30/2008

    I am tuning my Creed and using a QAD rest I sometimes get the arrow to rise off the rest while at full draw. What is happening? I want to prevent inaccurate arrow flight.
    I am using a loop and the shop put on a brass nock point inside the loop. I have never had a nock point in the loop before. Could that be causing the problem?[/quote:2hy1nm3i]

    http://www.dudleyarchery.info/article?start=40

    take a look at this site….pg 5 “knot a problem”.

    at full draw you’re getting too much pressure on your arrow nock from the brass nock installed. have your shop remove it (never should have used one in the first place imho) and tie in two string nocks..one on top and one on the bottom inside your loop. when your arrow is on the string at rest you want a small gap (1mm) between your string nocks and your arrow nock. you don’t want your arrow nock pinched at full draw.

    January 11, 2013 at 1:53 am #546767 Back to Top REPORT
    sneska
    Sneska

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    THanks. I thought the nock point might be the problem putting pressure on the arrow nock.

    I never used that set up in the past.

    Mathews Creed Carbon Express Red 250 G5 Montec 125 HHA 5500 QAD Ultra Rest Pro Trufire
    January 11, 2013 at 12:28 pm #546768 Back to Top REPORT
    sneska
    Sneska

    Age: 60
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    Chas, thanks for the info but I cannot open the link you posted. Is there something wrong with it or is it my pc?
    Mathews Creed Carbon Express Red 250 G5 Montec 125 HHA 5500 QAD Ultra Rest Pro Trufire
    January 11, 2013 at 3:12 pm #546769 Back to Top REPORT

    CHAS

    Joined: 1/30/2008
    I just clicked on the same link using my iPhone and it openned right up so it may be your of. Google search John Dudley and see if that helps.
    January 11, 2013 at 4:22 pm #546770 Back to Top REPORT
    sneska
    Sneska

    Age: 60
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    I searched and got results but it still will not open. I used another browser and have the same results.
    I will try later on my tablet.
    Mathews Creed Carbon Express Red 250 G5 Montec 125 HHA 5500 QAD Ultra Rest Pro Trufire
    January 11, 2013 at 4:39 pm #546771 Back to Top REPORT

    CHAS

    Joined: 1/30/2008
    PM me your email address and i will forward the PDF. Hopefully you can open that sight, he has a ton of great info there.
    January 11, 2013 at 5:10 pm #546772 Back to Top REPORT
    l-o-s-t-arrow
    L.O.S.T.Arrow

    Joined: 5/16/2006
    Location: Alberta
    Your D-loop may need opening up a little. Need a little play in it. Sixteenth inch at least.

    :D :thumbup

    definitely Nock pinch and probably the loop is a little low…the bottom knot on the loop itself may be moving on you…

    easy fix :thumbup
    Neil

    January 12, 2013 at 12:20 am #546773 Back to Top REPORT
    sneska
    Sneska

    Age: 60
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    I have the brass nock point removed and now it is working perfectly. Scary how tight my groups are with my Creed.
    Mathews Creed Carbon Express Red 250 G5 Montec 125 HHA 5500 QAD Ultra Rest Pro Trufire
    February 11, 2013 at 1:54 pm #546774 Back to Top REPORT
    rabbit1957
    Rabbit1957

    Joined: 3/22/2012
    Location: Illinois
    Chas is correct. Once you tie string nock above and below in the D-loop, draw your arrow back with no point at all installed[/u:pt93e1fx]. This will show for sure that you arrow is being pushed down by the added wraps. I do this when I set up my 3D bow using a lizard tongue on my Spot Hogg Infinity.
    February 11, 2013 at 5:32 pm #546775 Back to Top REPORT
    l-o-s-t-arrow
    L.O.S.T.Arrow

    Joined: 5/16/2006
    Location: Alberta

    Chas is correct. Once you tie string nock above and below in the D-loop, draw your arrow back with no point at all installed. This will show for sure that you arrow is being pushed down by the added wraps. I do this when I set up my 3D bow using a lizard tongue on my Spot Hogg Infinity.[/quote:1fmk8yhi]

    :D ..? More clarification…its monday..with no Point?
    :D
    Neil

    February 11, 2013 at 5:37 pm #546776 Back to Top REPORT
    switchyxt_z7
    Switchyxt_Z7

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    Chas is correct. Once you tie string nock above and below in the D-loop, draw your arrow back with no point at all installed. This will show for sure that you arrow is being pushed down by the added wraps. I do this when I set up my 3D bow using a lizard tongue on my Spot Hogg Infinity.

    :D ..? More clarification…its monday..with no Point?
    :D
    Neil[/quote:3kfb2m8m]

    The way I read it is that to take off the point to make the front of the arrow lighter so the point isn’t assisting holding the front of arrow down on the rest to really make sure the is no nock pinch.

    Owner of Darkside Archery. Southwest Kansas' newest Mathews/Mission retailer.
    February 11, 2013 at 5:41 pm #546777 Back to Top REPORT
    rabbit1957
    Rabbit1957

    Joined: 3/22/2012
    Location: Illinois

    Chas is correct. Once you tie string nock above and below in the D-loop, draw your arrow back with no point at all installed. This will show for sure that you arrow is being pushed down by the added wraps. I do this when I set up my 3D bow using a lizard tongue on my Spot Hogg Infinity.

    :D ..? More clarification…its monday..with no Point?
    :D
    Neil[/quote:4piou7xb]
    Sure. Do the above with no field or target point in the arrow. If the arrow shaft glides back smoothly on the rest without lifting off the rest, then it’s perfect. My Gold Tip pro Series 22′s work best with only an inner nock string on the bottom of the nock which is just above the bottom D-Loop knot. Some might need a nock string wrapped top and bottom. For sure, if you have any kind of single knot above the arrow nock, it will want to lift the shaft off the rest which is NOT good.

    Did this help?

    February 11, 2013 at 5:42 pm #546778 Back to Top REPORT
    rabbit1957
    Rabbit1957

    Joined: 3/22/2012
    Location: Illinois

    Chas is correct. Once you tie string nock above and below in the D-loop, draw your arrow back with no point at all installed. This will show for sure that you arrow is being pushed down by the added wraps. I do this when I set up my 3D bow using a lizard tongue on my Spot Hogg Infinity.

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    Sure. Do the above with no field or target point in the arrow. If the arrow shaft glides back smoothly on the rest without lifting off the rest, then it's perfect. My Gold Tip pro Series 22's work best with only an inner nock string on the bottom of the nock which is just above the bottom D-Loop knot. Some might need a nock string wrapped top and bottom. For sure, if you have any kind of single knot above the arrow nock, it will want to lift the shaft off the rest which is NOT good.

    PLEASE TRY ONE NOCK STRING WRAP BELOW FIRST!

    Did this help?[/quote:trfr4g0e]

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