A/C/C Or A/C Super Slim?

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  • April 24, 2007 at 7:08 pm #511376 Back to Top REPORT
    switchy
    Switchy

    Joined: 2/23/2006
    I’ve only shot XX78’s and SuperSlims, two TOTALLY different shafts. I”ve been happy with the Super Slims. You use an X nock for them so I don’t see the fact that you don’t use a G nock as an issue.

    Flip a coin, either arrow will serve you well.

    April 24, 2007 at 7:14 pm #511377 Back to Top REPORT
    thunderchicken21
    thunderchicken21

    Age: 30
    Joined: 8/4/2006
    Location: Ohio
    in my opinion, the super slims :thumbup
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    April 24, 2007 at 10:50 pm #511378 Back to Top REPORT
    merve_01
    merve_01

    Age: 30
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    Location: Indiana
    merve, everything else doesnt stay the same. If the velocity drops to a level where you start to lose KE. To say the heavier projectile will always have more energy goes against 75 years of ballistic research. Sierra Bullets, Oehler Research, Walt Berger on and on. Plugging in the numbers from the years I was a longrange shooting nut, the VLD bullets would put out less muzzle energy but more than made up for it downrange due to design, ballistic coefficents, section density etc. Which leads to Brettov, in most cases yes the 180 grain will hold better numbers downrange, but you still have to take into consideration the ballistic coeffecient of the two bullets, a long ogive on the 150 with a boattail will hold up better downrange that a stubby fat ogived 180. [=}=]

    I’m not talking about balistics. Read the post regarding “are the kenetic energy calculators correct”? Symo did the testing I am going off of his results and what I perceive as common sense that is if something weighes 200,000 tons even going five fps would pack more force than a 150 grain bullet traveling 2000 fps therefore kenetic energy of the ship is undoubtedly higher than the bullet traveling much faster…. And I will say the heavier weight arrow shaft would have more kenetic energy and penetrate deeper if they were of the same width… penetration doesn’t just relate to kenetic energy but point head, and width of arrow…

    April 24, 2007 at 11:06 pm #511379 Back to Top REPORT



    Joined: 5/24/2004
    Neither Axis FMJ’s. I recon they are going to replace ACC’s eventually and Easton will go over to ally on the outside carbon on the inside for all their paralell shafts.
    April 25, 2007 at 12:45 am #511380 Back to Top REPORT
    machinegun74
    machinegun74

    Joined: 7/26/2005

    merve, everything else doesnt stay the same. If the velocity drops to a level where you start to lose KE. To say the heavier projectile will always have more energy goes against 75 years of ballistic research. Sierra Bullets, Oehler Research, Walt Berger on and on. Plugging in the numbers from the years I was a longrange shooting nut, the VLD bullets would put out less muzzle energy but more than made up for it downrange due to design, ballistic coefficents, section density etc. Which leads to Brettov, in most cases yes the 180 grain will hold better numbers downrange, but you still have to take into consideration the ballistic coeffecient of the two bullets, a long ogive on the 150 with a boattail will hold up better downrange that a stubby fat ogived 180. [=}=]

    I’m not talking about balistics. Read the post regarding “are the kenetic energy calculators correct”? Symo did the testing I am going off of his results and what I perceive as common sense that is if something weighes 200,000 tons even going five fps would pack more force than a 150 grain bullet traveling 2000 fps therefore kenetic energy of the ship is undoubtedly higher than the bullet traveling much faster…. And I will say the heavier weight arrow shaft would have more kenetic energy and penetrate deeper if they were of the same width… penetration doesn’t just relate to kenetic energy but point head, and width of arrow…[/quote:22s6gxrp]

    It is an issue of ballistics because mainly, well arrows are like any other launched projectile and confined to the laws of exterior ballistics. All due respect to Symo but all I did was address the response that weight NO matter what loss to velocity will still have a higher kinetic energy. Believe what you want. [=}=]

    But after looking back into it I want to change my choice to AC SuperSlims, the possible advantages to the ballistic coeffiecent and sectional density should make it a superior hunting shaft. ;)

    April 25, 2007 at 1:46 am #511381 Back to Top REPORT
    andy7yo
    andy7yo

    Joined: 2/18/2005

    Oh and Earl Pitts, kinetic energy always goes up with a heavier arrow, regardless ot speed loss.[/quote:1bmpgt3r]

    Sorry, your incorrect. You can get too heavy and lose to much speed which kills KE. There is a point both ways which you get the proverbial “diminishing return”.

    Oh and I dont use them but of those two Id go with ACC’s. [=}=][/quote:1bmpgt3r]

    http://forums.mathewsinc.com/viewtopic. … ht=#745180

    Check this out.

    April 25, 2007 at 4:05 am #511382 Back to Top REPORT
    a7
    A7

    Joined: 4/11/2006
    Superslims absolutely rock. Never shot ACCs so I am biased but I know that superslims rock. I bought 6 and after 6 mos. I didn’t have any and they are kind of expensive so I bought some beman MFX Black max elites-no where near the quality or accuracy of the superslims IMO. I have found to perfect hunting arrow for my setup :thumbup
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