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  • September 9, 2013 at 2:02 pm #594055 Back to Top REPORT
    vash
    vash

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    i was at the range yesterday.  weather was hot, range was fairly busy.

    the only open target that i wanted was the 40 yarder.  so i dropped all my gear and started to shoot.  i was on FIRE!!   i was consistently shooting two inch groups.  i’d hear that nervou$ click of arrows touching each other.  didnt break any, but came really close.

    i eyeballed a PSE shooter at the 60 target and he motioned, if we could switch.  okay.

    man, at the 60 i was awful!!  i was like lighting..never hit the same area twice.  my huge groups were low, so i made an adjustment.  i finally got it together and made less embarrassing groups.

    i wanted to end on a high note, so i went to the 30..HA!!  awful again.   i shot alittle and it came together.  great groups.

    went to the 40..and WHAM!!   great groups.  right from the get go.

    do you think i just have a mental advantage at 40?  i’ve always done really well at 40.  it is like it is my favorite distance.

    my brother notices this as well.  he often jokes.  we see a deer at 30, i have to step back 10 yards.

    is my mind playing tricks on me?

    September 9, 2013 at 2:32 pm #594058 Back to Top REPORT
    statedriller
    statedriller

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    I think it’s your mind…  I have days where I struggle at 20 and 40 but bust nocks at 30.  It’s gotta be in our heads.
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    September 9, 2013 at 3:25 pm #594065 Back to Top REPORT
    gjarcher
    gjarcher

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    Could be a number of things, but most commonly the 40 yd pin is set for how you anchor.

    That’s not common, since most set the 20 yd pin for how they anchor, then accuracy of the other pins degrades as they elevate and the anchor slips position.

    Ideally, you’d want the 35 or 40 yd distance to be at the center of the pin guard housing. This minimizes any anchor shift by splitting the distance. This is how I setup my pins.
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    Another thing I see many doing is as the distance becomes greater, they open the mouth … slack jawed … which shifts the anchor point.

    The rest of it is mental. If you think that 20 yd or 30 yd doesn’t require the focus that 40 yds requires, you’ll shoot worse. If you mentally think that 60 yds requires much more focus than 40 yds, you’ll tighten up and screw up.

    September 9, 2013 at 5:18 pm #594095 Back to Top REPORT
    hotshot
    Hotshot

    Age: 54
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    Location: Oregon
    Hey Brian, very interesting!….question so I get that right….

    So, when I set up my hunting sights I should center the, say, 40 yard pin in the center of the housing…left/right….up/down….use my sight bar adjustments to get this pin then set dead on. And then work up, say, 30 then 20 for my other pins above the forty. And work down from that 40 pin, 50 then sixty if I have a five pin sight housing?

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    September 9, 2013 at 5:43 pm #594104 Back to Top REPORT
    hotshot
    Hotshot

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    Location: Oregon
    oh…and Vash…

     

    We know why that PSE shooter wanted to get CLOSER…huh…

     

    Long shot for them {#emotions_dlg.mathews_wink}

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    September 9, 2013 at 5:51 pm #594107 Back to Top REPORT
    vash
    vash

    Joined: 5/30/2010

    oh…and Vash…

     

    We know why that PSE shooter wanted to get CLOSER…huh…

     

    Long shot for them {#emotions_dlg.mathews_wink}

    Lol!

    Thanks everyone.

    Sent via Jedi mind trick.

    September 9, 2013 at 5:54 pm #594108 Back to Top REPORT
    topgun
    topgun

    Age: 24
    Joined: 8/9/2013
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    Hotshot, it is easier than you think.
    I center my round sight housing inside my peep sight, I like to set my sight so that the middle pin is right in the center of the housing.  This looks the most natural to my eye. The only problem with this strategy occurs if you have a high anchor point such as up by your earlobe. A high anchor point will force your sight pins downward and your primary vertical dovetail will likely run out of adjustment room before you get the pins low enough.  When that happens you will need to move the pins down inside the housing. Yes, having the center of your sight housing being a pin placement is wise. But, it won’t make a lot of differance for most archers where they start the sighting in process. Personally, with the speed of today’s bows, I would not set a pin at less than 20 yards unless you are a youth hunter with a slower arrow flight. If you are hitting above the intended spot, move the sight body up.  Move it down if you are hitting below your intended spot.  If you are hitting to the left of the spot, move the sight body to the left.  Move it to the right if you are hitting to the right of the spot. Once you get your 20-yard pin close, move back to 30 yards and repeat the process.  Spend the time necessary to tweak that sight body at 30 yards so that the 30-yard pin is hitting perfectly.  Now, all you should have to do to get the 40 and 20-yard pins perfect is to adjust the pin gap. Your form can change slightly from one day to the next, so you need to work the pins into the right place over time to get the best results.  This has the effect of averaging your shots together. It may take five different practice sessions to get a bow sighted-in perfectly.
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    September 9, 2013 at 6:05 pm #594114 Back to Top REPORT
    gjarcher
    gjarcher

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    Hey Brian, very interesting!….question so I get that right….

    Yep, works for me.

    I make a pin spread template using OT2. I set the template so that about 35 yds is the center of the housing and set the pins to the template … very easy without having to do a lot of sighting in.

    PinSight

    September 9, 2013 at 6:22 pm #594118 Back to Top REPORT
    hotshot
    Hotshot

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    Makes since to me Brian….thank you for the tip! I will try that after season.

    And topgun…I think you didnt understand my question to Brian…..thank you but this is not my first rodeo son. {#emotions_dlg.mathews_wink}

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