2x 3x or 4x magnifier lens for Axcel sight

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  • January 29, 2013 at 2:17 am #497889 Back to Top REPORT

    Wingmaster36

    Joined: 11/6/2010
    Presently have an Axcel Armor. HD sight (1 3/4 diameter) .019 pins that I use in indoor 20yd target competition . Consistently shoot in the low 290′s (60 arrows). Have been thinking about getting a magnifier in 2x 3x or at the max a 4x to visualize the X’s a little better. Don’t wear glasses but could use a little help when shooting. All this advice comes via a conversation with cust.service at Vision Perfect Optics. Do not want a clarifier in the peep just a lens in the sight. Does anyone have experience with this? Will it really help? Any advice about this would sure be appreciated. Also,where would be the best place to economicly purchase these type of lenses? Thanks in advance. =D/>” title=”Applause” /></div>


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    January 29, 2013 at 3:46 am #549883 Back to Top REPORT
    jeff-k-in-il
    Jeff K in IL

    Age: 26
    Joined: 11/1/2005
    Provided that the sight picture won’t be blurry, and you’re shooting indoors only, I am inclined to say 3x or 4x.
    January 30, 2013 at 3:22 am #549884 Back to Top REPORT

    Shogun1

    Age: 55
    Joined: 10/29/2007
    Location: AL
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    Presently have an Axcel Armor. HD sight (1 3/4 diameter) .019 pins that I use in indoor 20yd target competition . Consistently shoot in the low 290′s (60 arrows). Have been thinking about getting a magnifier in 2x 3x or at the max a 4x to visualize the X’s a little better. Don’t wear glasses but could use a little help when shooting. All this advice comes via a conversation with cust.service at Vision Perfect Optics. Do not want a clarifier in the peep just a lens in the sight. Does anyone have experience with this? Will it really help? Any advice about this would sure be appreciated. Also,where would be the best place to economicly purchase these type of lenses? Thanks in advance. 

    Just started down this path myself.  A few comments:
    1.  Not sure what you really mean by 2x, 3x, and 4x.  The “power” of a lens is determined by the diopter of the lens grind and the distance the lens is from your eye!  Before I started doing my homework, I heard folks talking about the power of their lens — and I learned that manufacturers marketed their lens this way.  See this post by “Symo.”

    http://forums.mathewsinc.com/archery-4/ … ion-47721/

    2.  I already had a Sureloc sight that I had mounted a Lethal Weapon 5 pin aperture on.  But, I was reticent to invest in Swarovski optics just to try it out. I wasn’t sure how much “power” I needed or could use.

    3.  Because I had also invested in the Axcel line of sights, I elected to invest in the Axcel scope.  (Rather than put another brand scope on the Axcel sight.)  That decision opened up other makes of lens as options. As I’m sure you know, Axcel doesn’t market a lens.  After doing a fair amount of research, I found myself coming back to the feather vision line of lens.
    http://www.feathervisions.com/

    4.  The first lens I ordered (through my pro shop) was a FeatherVision VerdePlus™ in a .5 diopter grind.

    “Introduced in 2009, this lens is our latest offering in a plano-convex lens. The advanced design combines superior Zeiss supplied glass, the latest Zeiss AR coating, and Zeiss manufacturing technology to provide an exceptionally clear lens. The advanced Zeiss coating provide a 99.98% light transmission capability and hydrophobic (water hating) qualities. An oleophobic coating repels fingerprints, grease, dust, and dirt and makes the lens easy to clean. This advanced coating along with a higher hardness rating combine to provide enhanced durability. Offered lens powers are: +.25, +.37, +.50, +.62, +.75, +.82, and +1.00 diopter.”

    5.  My sight has a long sight bar.  At full extension, I could see through the lens OK but, I did add a #1 clarifier and the “picture” improved.  I didn’t try shortening the sight bar.  I liked what I was seeing, so I decided to upgrade to the .82 diopter grind.  To go along with that, I also went to a #2 clarifier.  What I found out was that gave me too much magnification.  Too much meaning that the amount of magnification really emphasized what little bit of wobble I had at anchor — that I wasn’t noticing with the .5 diopter lens.  So, this time I shortened the sight bar extension.  Since I try to match the size of the peep aperture to the size of the sight housing, I had moved the housing in closer, I had to go from a 3/64″ peep aperture to a 1/16″ aperture to account for the apparent increase in size.

    6.  I know you didn’t want to go to a clarifier, neither did I.  But I was already using a superball peep and the different apertures to make the peep match the sight housing.  So it was a minor change to go from a peep aperture with no lens in it to the clarifiers.  And even though the clarifier wasn’t required for the .5 diopter lens, it was a little nicer.

    7.  Costs. As I recall, the lens were $80 or so.  The apertures with no lens were about $12 or $15.  The peep apertures with lens were about $25 or so.

    8.  I normally shoot a .010 pin in my sights which have a 6″ rail.  But for my scope which is on a 12″ rail, I went to a .019 pin. I have no problems seeing it way out there with no lens.  But when I went to lens and clarifiers, I found I needed to turn the light on for shooting indoors to bring the pin up so I could easily see it.

    9.  You can by a dot to put on the lens to replace the need for a pin.  Alternatively, you can buy a circle to put on the lens to frame the 5 ring or the 9/10 ring for standard NFAA type targets.  If you go that route, be sure to use the template enclosed with them to get them centered on the lens. Or else you will have to resight every time you remove and replace the lens because you didn’t get it back exactly as it was when it came out.

    10.  You don’t need a lens to shoot well.  Check out these scores from guys shooting a bowhunter set up at Lancaster this past week.  The max score in the first column is 660 (2 rounds of 30 arrows on a 3 spot target with the X counting as an 11.  All 30 shots in the X ring would be 300 + 30 = 330.  On the elimination rounds, the max would be 120 + 12 = 132.  So, in the case of the
    match between Seltzer and Dean, these guys had to have been tied at the end of the match.  The only way they could get scores over 132 would have been to get rolled up in a tie breaker.

    http://www.lancasterarchery.com/media/c … 9514802815

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