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  • January 29, 2013 at 2:48 am #497890 Back to Top REPORT
    bbeltram
    bbeltram

    Joined: 1/20/2008
    I’ve stayed pretty well on top of the recent news regarding our fight to keep our 2nd Amendment rights. Part of that has included reading a lot of the comments that are posted after various news stories, youtube videos, etc… One thing that keeps crossing my mind is the image that some of the “ignorant” have of the average gun owner. There seem to be quite a few comments from Joe Citizen thinking that the average person with a CCL is some drunk redneck out looking for a fire fight.

    I can’t help but think a little PR that tells the real story of America’s gun owners might just help the situation and give the “low information” American a look behind the curtain. Don’t get me wrong, we need to fight the gun grabbers tooth and nail at every opportunity. I just think organizations like the NRA could also do a lot of good by painting the entire picture and bringing more advocates on board.

    I have several friends and peers at work that didnt grow up around guns and have bought into the media picture of paranoid gun nuts roaming the streets. When I take the time to talk about our second amentment rights, why they’re important and the time and care we put into educating ourselves and our families, their impression usually changes.

    Any thoughts?

    January 29, 2013 at 3:05 am #549885 Back to Top REPORT
    statedriller
    statedriller

    Joined: 9/15/2006
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    The problem is, that is how the media portrays us. How do we beat that?
    The end is near....
    January 29, 2013 at 3:11 am #549886 Back to Top REPORT
    bojangles
    bojangles

    Joined: 6/9/2008
    The problem is, that is how the media portrays us. How do we beat that?

    give your delusional pals a high cap mag and teach them how to bump fire. adrenalin rush usually cancels out fears. lol.

    honestly, though, this is the battle we’re up against.

    January 29, 2013 at 3:33 am #549887 Back to Top REPORT
    statedriller
    statedriller

    Joined: 9/15/2006
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    The end is near....
    January 29, 2013 at 3:37 am #549888 Back to Top REPORT
    deere-farmer
    Deere Farmer

    Age: 40
    Joined: 11/12/2008
    Location: Van Wert County, Ohio

    I’ve stayed pretty well on top of the recent news regarding our fight to keep our 2nd Amendment rights. Part of that has included reading a lot of the comments that are posted after various news stories, youtube videos, etc… One thing that keeps crossing my mind is the image that some of the “ignorant” have of the average gun owner. There seem to be quite a few comments from Joe Citizen thinking that the average person with a CCL is some drunk redneck out looking for a fire fight.

    I can’t help but think a little PR that tells the real story of America’s gun owners might just help the situation and give the “low information” American a look behind the curtain. Don’t get me wrong, we need to fight the gun grabbers tooth and nail at every opportunity. I just think organizations like the NRA could also do a lot of good by painting the entire picture and bringing more advocates on board.

    I have several friends and peers at work that didnt grow up around guns and have bought into the media picture of paranoid gun nuts roaming the streets. When I take the time to talk about our second amentment rights, why they’re important and the time and care we put into educating ourselves and our families, their impression usually changes.[/color:16p9c28u]

    Any thoughts?[/quote:16p9c28u]

    Brad, I think that is a great first step for people that don’t understand our side of the story and the fight for our rights. The only thing I can say is its a huge uphill battle.

    January 29, 2013 at 3:37 am #549889 Back to Top REPORT
    bbeltram
    bbeltram

    Joined: 1/20/2008
    $ talks. A few commercials about gun owners being your neighbors, your friends, your pastor, your kid’s baseball coach, the ladies in the quilting club…… Maybe a commercial with law enforcement explaining why it is important that citizens are equipped to protect themselves, their families, their neighbors.

    We’re allowing the lib media to paint us as school yard bullies praying for a chance to whack the next guy that looks suspicious. Somebody needs to start citing statistics and making it clear that these shooters are not law-abiding gun owners. Nobody is telling them they’re actually safer on the street, in the restaurant, or at the movie theater when responsible gun owners are around.

    Lack of information and familiarity causes fear.

    January 29, 2013 at 4:12 am #549890 Back to Top REPORT
    jeff-k-in-il
    Jeff K in IL

    Age: 26
    Joined: 11/1/2005

    $ talks. Yes, $$ does talk.[/color:24ozxubb] A few commercials about gun owners being your neighbors, your friends, your pastor, your kid’s baseball coach, the ladies in the quilting club…… Maybe a commercial with law enforcement explaining why it is important that citizens are equipped to protect themselves, their families, their neighbors.

    We’re allowing the lib media to paint us as school yard bullies praying for a chance to whack the next guy that looks suspicious. Somebody needs to start citing statistics and making it clear that these shooters are not law-abiding gun owners. Nobody is telling them they’re actually safer on the street, in the restaurant, or at the movie theater when responsible gun owners are around.

    Lack of information and familiarity causes fear. I am convinced this is the main reason for support.[/color:24ozxubb][/quote:24ozxubb]

    As I talked to you about earlier today, Brad, the people that are going to give us that bad “rap” are those like that guy who toted his AR around a JCPenny’s in Utah. We are already fighting an uphill battle. Tonight on CBS they were doing a story about a mother whom lost all of her kids to gun related deaths. This was Chicago of course; but what people will take away from that story isn’t the fact that her son was an ex drug user, or gang member, or that Chicago already has some of the most restrictive gun laws in America; people will hone in on the fact that each of them died from being shot. It is propaganda at it’s finest, and people are naive enough to take it hook, line, and sinker.

    Any type of “fighting” that we do, must be done in an organized fashion. Living up to the Liberal’s ideology, and the media’s ideology is not something I want gun owners to be known for. One wrong step, and it can cost us big time.

    January 29, 2013 at 4:25 am #549891 Back to Top REPORT
    pete
    pete

    Age: 47
    Joined: 4/22/2010

    $ talks. Yes, $$ does talk.[/color:23tehr4b] A few commercials about gun owners being your neighbors, your friends, your pastor, your kid’s baseball coach, the ladies in the quilting club…… Maybe a commercial with law enforcement explaining why it is important that citizens are equipped to protect themselves, their families, their neighbors.

    We’re allowing the lib media to paint us as school yard bullies praying for a chance to whack the next guy that looks suspicious. Somebody needs to start citing statistics and making it clear that these shooters are not law-abiding gun owners. Nobody is telling them they’re actually safer on the street, in the restaurant, or at the movie theater when responsible gun owners are around.

    Lack of information and familiarity causes fear. I am convinced this is the main reason for support.[/color:23tehr4b][/quote:23tehr4b]

    As I talked to you about earlier today, Brad, the people that are going to give us that bad “rap” are those like that guy who toted his AR around a JCPenny’s in Utah. We are already fighting an uphill battle. Tonight on CBS they were doing a story about a mother whom lost all of her kids to gun related deaths. This was Chicago of course; but what people will take away from that story isn’t the fact that her son was an ex drug user, or gang member, or that Chicago already has some of the most restrictive gun laws in America; people will hone in on the fact that each of them died from being shot. It is propaganda at it’s finest, and people are naive enough to take it hook, line, and sinker.

    Any type of “fighting” that we do, must be done in an organized fashion. Living up to the Liberal’s ideology, and the media’s ideology is not something I want gun owners to be known for. One wrong step, and it can cost us big time.[/quote:23tehr4b]

    This seems to be a very different tone than you took the other day when we were discussing what we would do. I thought the “show of force” approach is what you wanted and now you say the guy carrying the AR around is bad for the cause????

    "it's funny how it's the little things in life that mean the most" - zac brown
    January 29, 2013 at 4:49 am #549892 Back to Top REPORT
    jeff-k-in-il
    Jeff K in IL

    Age: 26
    Joined: 11/1/2005

    $ talks. Yes, $$ does talk.[/color:18eq9aqw] A few commercials about gun owners being your neighbors, your friends, your pastor, your kid’s baseball coach, the ladies in the quilting club…… Maybe a commercial with law enforcement explaining why it is important that citizens are equipped to protect themselves, their families, their neighbors.

    We’re allowing the lib media to paint us as school yard bullies praying for a chance to whack the next guy that looks suspicious. Somebody needs to start citing statistics and making it clear that these shooters are not law-abiding gun owners. Nobody is telling them they’re actually safer on the street, in the restaurant, or at the movie theater when responsible gun owners are around.

    Lack of information and familiarity causes fear. I am convinced this is the main reason for support.[/color:18eq9aqw][/quote:18eq9aqw]

    As I talked to you about earlier today, Brad, the people that are going to give us that bad “rap” are those like that guy who toted his AR around a JCPenny’s in Utah. We are already fighting an uphill battle. Tonight on CBS they were doing a story about a mother whom lost all of her kids to gun related deaths. This was Chicago of course; but what people will take away from that story isn’t the fact that her son was an ex drug user, or gang member, or that Chicago already has some of the most restrictive gun laws in America; people will hone in on the fact that each of them died from being shot. It is propaganda at it’s finest, and people are naive enough to take it hook, line, and sinker.

    Any type of “fighting” that we do, must be done in an organized fashion. Living up to the Liberal’s ideology, and the media’s ideology is not something I want gun owners to be known for. One wrong step, and it can cost us big time.[/quote:18eq9aqw]

    This seems to be a very different tone than you took the other day when we were discussing what we would do. I thought the “show of force” approach is what you wanted and now you say the guy carrying the AR around is bad for the cause????[/quote:18eq9aqw]

    Show of force in numbers, would I join a militia and go around starting a war, no. Maybe I mis-interpreted that thread question a bit, but I certainly won’t just sit here and write representatives.

    January 29, 2013 at 9:50 am #549893 Back to Top REPORT
    pete
    pete

    Age: 47
    Joined: 4/22/2010

    $ talks. Yes, $$ does talk.[/color:2w7ifv9r] A few commercials about gun owners being your neighbors, your friends, your pastor, your kid’s baseball coach, the ladies in the quilting club…… Maybe a commercial with law enforcement explaining why it is important that citizens are equipped to protect themselves, their families, their neighbors.

    We’re allowing the lib media to paint us as school yard bullies praying for a chance to whack the next guy that looks suspicious. Somebody needs to start citing statistics and making it clear that these shooters are not law-abiding gun owners. Nobody is telling them they’re actually safer on the street, in the restaurant, or at the movie theater when responsible gun owners are around.

    Lack of information and familiarity causes fear. I am convinced this is the main reason for support.[/color:2w7ifv9r][/quote:2w7ifv9r]

    As I talked to you about earlier today, Brad, the people that are going to give us that bad “rap” are those like that guy who toted his AR around a JCPenny’s in Utah. We are already fighting an uphill battle. Tonight on CBS they were doing a story about a mother whom lost all of her kids to gun related deaths. This was Chicago of course; but what people will take away from that story isn’t the fact that her son was an ex drug user, or gang member, or that Chicago already has some of the most restrictive gun laws in America; people will hone in on the fact that each of them died from being shot. It is propaganda at it’s finest, and people are naive enough to take it hook, line, and sinker.

    Any type of “fighting” that we do, must be done in an organized fashion. Living up to the Liberal’s ideology, and the media’s ideology is not something I want gun owners to be known for. One wrong step, and it can cost us big time.[/quote:2w7ifv9r]

    This seems to be a very different tone than you took the other day when we were discussing what we would do. I thought the “show of force” approach is what you wanted and now you say the guy carrying the AR around is bad for the cause????[/quote:2w7ifv9r]

    Show of force in numbers, would I join a militia and go around starting a war, no. Maybe I mis-interpreted that thread question a bit, but I certainly won’t just sit here and write representatives.[/quote:2w7ifv9r]

    That’s exactly what I said the other day

    interesting because this is what I also said we should do: “call your lawmakers, write letters, organize a rally, etc. “

    so were you actually agreeing with me the other day? maybe I’m being naive?

    "it's funny how it's the little things in life that mean the most" - zac brown
    January 29, 2013 at 11:04 am #549894 Back to Top REPORT
    statedriller
    statedriller

    Joined: 9/15/2006
    Location: Call me...867-5309

    $ talks. A few commercials about gun owners being your neighbors, your friends, your pastor, your kid’s baseball coach, the ladies in the quilting club…… Maybe a commercial with law enforcement explaining why it is important that citizens are equipped to protect themselves, their families, their neighbors.

    We’re allowing the lib media to paint us as school yard bullies praying for a chance to whack the next guy that looks suspicious. Somebody needs to start citing statistics and making it clear that these shooters are not law-abiding gun owners. Nobody is telling them they’re actually safer on the street, in the restaurant, or at the movie theater when responsible gun owners are around.

    Lack of information and familiarity causes fear.[/quote:rwm899ky]

    Now that is a good idea. I’ll be sending some recommendations to the NRA today… :thumbup

    The end is near....
    January 29, 2013 at 11:53 am #549895 Back to Top REPORT
    mikesmith
    MikeSmith

    Age: 64
    Joined: 1/5/2008
    Location: Republic of Texas
    I’m a member of the US Militia and the Texas Militia. Have been most of my life.

    As far as doing commercials, does anyone know a media outlet that would run those commercials?

    January 29, 2013 at 1:06 pm #549896 Back to Top REPORT
    bbeltram
    bbeltram

    Joined: 1/20/2008

    I’m a member of the US Militia and the Texas Militia. Have been most of my life.

    As far as doing commercials, does anyone know a media outlet that would run those commercials?[/quote:8z046sl1]

    The so called “news” programs wouldn’t touch this with a ten foot pole, that is true. But they all make their $ by selling advertising. It doesnt seem like they care much about who they sell to as long as the commercials arent lewd or illegal. Ad sales are the life blood of most of these broadcasters.

    January 29, 2013 at 8:46 pm #549897 Back to Top REPORT
    jeff-k-in-il
    Jeff K in IL

    Age: 26
    Joined: 11/1/2005

    $ talks. Yes, $$ does talk.[/color:y59t0cj2] A few commercials about gun owners being your neighbors, your friends, your pastor, your kid’s baseball coach, the ladies in the quilting club…… Maybe a commercial with law enforcement explaining why it is important that citizens are equipped to protect themselves, their families, their neighbors.

    We’re allowing the lib media to paint us as school yard bullies praying for a chance to whack the next guy that looks suspicious. Somebody needs to start citing statistics and making it clear that these shooters are not law-abiding gun owners. Nobody is telling them they’re actually safer on the street, in the restaurant, or at the movie theater when responsible gun owners are around.

    Lack of information and familiarity causes fear. I am convinced this is the main reason for support.[/color:y59t0cj2][/quote:y59t0cj2]

    As I talked to you about earlier today, Brad, the people that are going to give us that bad “rap” are those like that guy who toted his AR around a JCPenny’s in Utah. We are already fighting an uphill battle. Tonight on CBS they were doing a story about a mother whom lost all of her kids to gun related deaths. This was Chicago of course; but what people will take away from that story isn’t the fact that her son was an ex drug user, or gang member, or that Chicago already has some of the most restrictive gun laws in America; people will hone in on the fact that each of them died from being shot. It is propaganda at it’s finest, and people are naive enough to take it hook, line, and sinker.

    Any type of “fighting” that we do, must be done in an organized fashion. Living up to the Liberal’s ideology, and the media’s ideology is not something I want gun owners to be known for. One wrong step, and it can cost us big time.[/quote:y59t0cj2]

    This seems to be a very different tone than you took the other day when we were discussing what we would do. I thought the “show of force” approach is what you wanted and now you say the guy carrying the AR around is bad for the cause????[/quote:y59t0cj2]

    Show of force in numbers, would I join a militia and go around starting a war, no. Maybe I mis-interpreted that thread question a bit, but I certainly won’t just sit here and write representatives.[/quote:y59t0cj2]

    That’s exactly what I said the other day

    interesting because this is what I also said we should do: “call your lawmakers, write letters, organize a rally, etc. “

    so were you actually agreeing with me the other day? maybe I’m being naive?[/quote:y59t0cj2]

    Organize a rally, yes. But we need something more than just letters to representatives.

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